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Post Post #5675 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:09 pm

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It'd make sense if it was a one-shot, TF.

Logically, it's arguable, but in my experience, scum tend to use their one-shot powers early on so they aren't squandered in the case of being lynched before they can be used. If TF had reason to believe that BRO was his traitor, why not go for it?
By the same logic, why did Venmar use both of his cop shots right away instead of holding onto them longer?
People like getting the most out of their roles when they're alive, I suppose.

Anyway, I digress. We're speculating over hypothetical setups. The reality is that either TF or I am scum, or Anti isn't playing to his wincon by drawing this out (highly doubt it, but I might do that one day, just to torture some poor soul). I've made my case for TF scum and anything else I type is reiteration or hypothetical pondering at this point. I feel the same goes for TF.
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Post Post #5676 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:11 pm

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^bad

also, if you're scum and don't quickhammer in 3 man lylo when you have the chance, you suck and should have your appendages removed one at a time
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Post Post #5677 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:11 pm

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Syr and I figured we wouldn't live super long, and we both agreed with SOS's read. Additionally, at the time the game was ongoing so I couldn't say this in the thread, but Bro was playing somewhat similar to the way he had played as scum as my scum buddy in New York 165. We honestly debated targeting venmar night one instead, just in case it was scum claiming PGO to hide some sort of PR.

Syr abandonded me around the middle of day two, and It's been all cabd all the time ever since, minus the one or two posts he's made.
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Post Post #5678 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:18 pm

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Speaking of AJ and hypothetical/logical play...
When AJ claimed he knew there was a traitor in the setup, I pushed for his lynch until I got it, believing he was the traitor. If I was scum, wouldn't it make more sense for me to play along with what he said, mislynch other people while 'hunting' for the traitor, and have a member of the scum-team recruit AJ?

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@Anti: Yeah, it'd probably be one of the most vile acts of villainy ever.
@TF: Same argument could be made if it was a recruiting power. You thought he was scummy in play (genuinely), didn't think you'd live long, and wanted to get it out of the way.
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Post Post #5679 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:20 pm

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In post 5678, Varsoon wrote:When AJ claimed he knew there was a traitor in the setup, I pushed for his lynch until I got it, believing he was the traitor. If I was scum, wouldn't it make more sense for me to play along with what he said, mislynch other people while 'hunting' for the traitor, and have a member of the scum-team recruit AJ?
This is awesome...

The Batman villain here is saying "oh lol, if I were scum, I would totally do the most conventional and expected thing in this situation".
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Post Post #5680 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:21 pm

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In post 5678, Varsoon wrote:If I was scum, wouldn't it make more sense for me to play along with what he said, mislynch other people while 'hunting' for the traitor, and have a member of the scum-team recruit AJ?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus
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Post Post #5681 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:23 pm

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Hahaha, I'm sure I'd spin it some way. Maybe fake-claim bulletproof and say I soaked the shot that night or something.


@TF: Guess that's an argument that could be made, although I don't see why scum would bus at all after the early deaths on their team. Maybe if the lynch was inevitable, but in the case of me and AJ, I pushed the wagon, I wasn't just on it.
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Post Post #5682 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:58 pm

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Votecount 9.3


[1] Trust Fund (Varsoon)
[1] Varsoon (Trust Fund)

[1] Not Voting (Antihero)

With 3 alive, it is 2 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-08 08:00:00)
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Post Post #5683 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:00 pm

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11 days later, Antihero reveals that it was a ruse, and he was scum all along.
11 days and 10 hours later, Bork reveals that it was a ruse, and we're all town.
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Post Post #5684 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:06 pm

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In post 5682, borkjerfkin wrote:Let me know if you see any problems.
Yes mod,
I see a problem.

In your last vote coutn you did not put the name of the last scum in italics. Please fix this ASAP.

It's OK, we all make that mistake once in a while.
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Post Post #5685 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:08 pm

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He fixed it go look.
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Post Post #5686 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:10 pm

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Bork you troll. Now I have to fix it.
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Post Post #5687 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:10 pm

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In post 5682, borkjerfkin wrote:
Votecount 9.3


[1] Trust Fund (
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With 3 alive, it is 2 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-08 08:00:00)
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Post Post #5688 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:13 pm

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ok for real here it is:

Spoiler:
nope it's my daughter dressed up as batman
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anyway back to the game
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Post Post #5689 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:13 pm

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In post 5687, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 5682, borkjerfkin wrote:
Votecount 9.3


[1] Trust Fund (
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[1] Not Voting (Antihero)

With 3 alive, it is 2 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-08 08:00:00)


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Post Post #5690 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:14 pm

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Bork, that's adorable

It doesn't matter who gets hammered now, we all win
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Post Post #5691 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:18 pm

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In post 5690, Varsoon wrote:It doesn't matter who gets hammered now, we all win
Ok he doesn't care but I do. So you can hammer him and we can celebrate the town win with batman decorated cupcakes.
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Post Post #5692 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:21 pm

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That's a little cynical, don't'cha think?

I might not care, but there's a lot of dead townies that wouldn't want me to throw in the towel. I'm playing on their behalf too, yo. We're in this together.
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Post Post #5693 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:22 pm

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I'm sure the dead QT appreciates the misrep of their groaning.
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Post Post #5694 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:22 pm

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In post 5691, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 5690, Varsoon wrote:It doesn't matter who gets hammered now, we all win
Ok he doesn't care but I do. So you can hammer him and we can celebrate the scum win with batman decorated cupcakes.
TF, I think you're too excited for those cupcakes.
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Post Post #5695 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:23 pm

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You can call me cabd. Syryana fled the hydra long ago
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Post Post #5696 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:23 pm

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Still doesn't change your alignment, though!
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Post Post #5697 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:26 pm

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In post 5694, Varsoon wrote:I think you're too excited for those cupcakes.
I am! I want the townwin we should have really gotten already had TD not screwed it up. BTW, antihero, if you're curious about plans calling for my own death and following them....

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p5326993

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Post Post #5698 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:32 pm

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I guess you can call me Varsoon, since Metal Sonic got banned from the hydra awhile ago.

Poor Metal Sonic, I miss him.

Cabd, my role PM says I'm part of the Nisan Alliance. We don't need to do naked battle in fourth dimensional space to figure out what's what.

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Hey! Hey! If you get to link games, so do I!
Here's my play in the last couple of MyLo's/Lylo's I've been in:
Shitty Joke Smalltown, scum win
Meme Mafia II, town win
3p LyLo, scum win, town losses
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Post Post #5699 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:34 pm

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I guess I had a town win in 3p LyLo as well, huh. It's been awhile since that one.
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