A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Titus]

Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.

[Cephrir]

Well that was unnecessarily hostile.

You confused Ninja with Strongman, your brilliance.

why did you jump to this conclusion?

I thought he said he blocked Naut? Did I make that up?

[Cephrir]

And I didn't claim to use the trackyesterday, I used Snare/Block. Naut didn't do any killing or anything at all just like last night quadz didn't go anywhere.

No, no I did not make that up.

[quadz08]

It is not theory. I am trying to see the reasons behind PJ's vote. PJ is voting elle because Elle voted Thor. I see nothing wrong with that voting. Why so defensive?

Ah, didn't see that was PJ's reason for voting Elle. Retracted.

well if he roleblocked Quadz N2, then w/e no point voting for Quadz. If N3, then yes, lynch Quadz. simple stuff

Quadz, nothing on this?

What's there to say? We don't know what SafetyDance actually meant, and I'm not particularly concerned about him possibly claiming to have roleblocked me. I'll freak out about it when people start voting me for it. *shrug*

[PrideandJoy]

Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.

aka benmage needlessly being oppositional.

pretty sure I made sense. if I didn't explain how I didn't

[Benmage]

Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.

aka benmage needlessly being oppositional.

pretty sure I made sense. if I didn't explain how I didn't

your right I'm pretty sure achieveing a mislynch was good enough for the scum voting him

That ^ didn't make sense as a response to:

(the notion of lynching people based off a miller claim I find repulsive)

Good thing noone here did that.

Do you want to tell me next that 1+1 = 2?


How was I oppositional?

[Titus]

Looking solely at day 1VCA, ooba and safetydance need scrutiny. Their wagons were above 10 according to the vcs the mod posted. There was no counterwagon on Amrun, which suggests it was heavily scum pushed. On day three my slot was wagoned with Spyrex and spyrex was scum. That suggests scum was pushing my wagon.

Now, let's see if anyone fits the profile I have drawn up. Pushing amrun, pushing me and pushing thor.

[elleheathen]

Yikes, forgot about this. I need to reread but before I do...

@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir

& anyone else that can read her well...

Is Tierce town?

[Alfred Borden]

Looking solely at day 1VCA, ooba and safetydance need scrutiny. Their wagons were above 10 according to the vcs the mod posted. There was no counterwagon on Amrun, which suggests it was heavily scum pushed. On day three my slot was wagoned with Spyrex and spyrex was scum. That suggests scum was pushing my wagon.

I'll wait 'til you're done before saying anything else but are you suggesting there was no scum on the SpyreX wagon? What do you think the Alchemist wagon from the end of the last Day phase?

Is Tierce town?

Yes.

[Shadoweh]

Yikes, forgot about this. I need to reread but before I do...

@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir

& anyone else that can read her well...
Is Tierce town?

Better question, are you scum? Some people seem to think so :V

idc if we lynch quadz or not because I'm a flaming terrorist.

[Titus]

No. Obviously not. I haven't finished reading. I was just looking at the VCA from a neutral perspective. If someone was always taking the wrong position, it suggests scum to me. That's all VCA is a suggestion.

[Katsuki]

Come to think of it

Why is chesskiddra still alive? That shit needs to go

[Cephrir]

Yikes, forgot about this. I need to reread but before I do...

@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir

& anyone else that can read her well...

Is Tierce town?

I probably should not be included in this group but as far as I can tell yes

[The Alchemist]

Tierce is town.

[Benmage]

Come to think of it

Why is chesskiddra still alive? That shit needs to go

Agreeing with katsuki.... when worlds collide

[elleheathen]

Yikes, forgot about this. I need to reread but before I do...

@Alfred, Naut, Tammy, Cephrir

& anyone else that can read her well...

Is Tierce town?

I probably should not be included in this group but as far as I can tell yes

Nope, you have been included for a reason. <3

Still waiting on Naut/Tammy before I reveal why I'm asking.

[Titus]

Elle, are you trying to hint or not hint at something?

[Cephrir]

vote kkb

WK

This is the first post containing a vote after the initial SpyreX wagon. Therefore, it is the first step to the derailing of said wagon in favor of the Zdenek/AGar wagons. And of all things it's for white knighting SpyreX. I'm not saying anything about this really, vote documenting the derailing.

Tammy
Shadoweh
AGar
Benmage
elleheathen
kanyeknowsbest
Messiah Complex
ooba
SpyreX
quadz08

scum are in here ^.

But it feels gross to vote SpyreX.

So I will

VOTE: Elleheathen

Here's another alternative wagon, and with a lame excuse not to vote SpyreX to boot! "I think the guy everyone is voting for is scum but nyeh so I'm gonna do something to actively derail the wagon"? Yuck.

The Spyrex vote is pretty great and we're-a let you finish but Agar made one of the scummiest moves onto the Amrun quickwagon of all time. OF ALL TIME!

{...}

VOTE: AGar

Here's yet another alternative!

I can dig agar scum.

unvote vote Agar

Let me go ahead and make this a real bandwagon even though I literally just voted someone else. Try a little harder to stop this please. At this point I would characterize the initial SpyreX push as completely dead.

I liked the Agar vote more. The lolhammer I can justify as a lolhammer, but putting her to L-1 like that is just complete bullshit.

VOTE: Agar

But on the off chance it wasn't, here's a really poorly reasoned wagon hop. Like actually, read this post and cringe with me as you near the end of it.

Why did you wait to use this ability?

We decided that we would wait in order to avoid giving scum a reason to nightkill us early on, given that the ability could be pretty useful and we're pretty keen on being alive (for this head at least, it would suck if we died before the numbers thinned out a bit). If one of us had been around late Yesterday like we'd meant to/before a lynch happened, it's possible we'd have decided to break it out then. On the other hand, we might have waited longer if we had had more scumflips before Today.

Having not been online when the Amrun lynch happened, we came into Today with fresh deathrage towards both Agar and Spyrex. The urge to whip it out became overwhelming. We're out, we're proud, we have two votes. LOCK 'N' LOAD.

Augh! I still can't talk about this!

here that moved me.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ooba

This immediately follows a big post about ooba from shadoweh (accompanied by a vote). The picture I'm trying to paint here is that we have some players who appear to be really aggressively hunting for alternative wagons without actively defending Spyre (as kanye did). Primarily P&J and Benmage.

im willing to vote cephrir

(chesskid)

Case in fucking point.

Unvote

I need to sleep+think. These claims change things.

This follows my fake hammer. Those claims really did not change things (I assume claims plural means Alchemist and Spyre). I guess Alchemist's might have a little but Garruk was voting Spyre so that is not incredibly relevant. Spyre claimed a weak protective role. Why on earth should we care about that claim? It shouldn't affect anything, if you want to unvote then just unvote. Note that this post assumes, at least to my reading, that Spyre is aware he has not been hammered.

On an unrelated note, I am having trouble shaking my early townread on elle, even though a few things have made me uneasy. Someone convince me, I guess?

Update on my suspects:
Alchemist: We're not lynching this until Tierce does her thing but I still want it to die.
Messiah: I have very mixed feelings about their interactions with Spyre. I guess this is a good thing for them.
Garruk: Looks worse than before, see body of post.
Goat: Using their double vote on Spyre I actually liked, but they do remove it before too long. Not much change here in light of the new information.
Titus: See Messiah, I suppose, but less so. Hopefully having just played with town Titus will help me out here.
P&J: Welcome!

[Tierce]

elleheathen: wait until SafetyDance clarifies what he did each Night, please.

[Tammy]

Bordempire - how strongly do you feel about a town prideandjoy read? Remember in wingate the way peacebringer went after generic when he and Mara were fighting and generic was saying that Mara was scum? Will you look back at that and then look at how he went after kk when kk was going after prideandjoy? Am I smoking crack here because it felt oddly similar,

[Tammy]

Oh Nacho remind me to talk to you about Garruk when I get a chance to look back at something.

[Garruk Relentless]

Why wait for nacho? I'm right here.

[Tammy]

It has to do with your claim; I've been writing you off as town mostly due to your claim and the timing of it. I want to look back at something though, and that involves time I just don't have right now. But, I don't want to forget to see if it's anything at all.

[Garruk Relentless]

As you wish.

[Tammy]

Westley, is that you?!?