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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:53 am

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In post 47, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Stupid scum would vote tip. you dont like that i'm not 100% in the game on page 2 when i JUST bookmarked it and i'm still at work? What are trying to say? Just say you think i'm scum if thats the case, dont try to push some diarrhea.
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In post 48, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Besides, I'll know soon enough if tip is scum or not.
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In post 46, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Also, I don't see TIP voting the IC as a towntell. I see it as null. Why wouldn't scum vote for the IC if the reaction to his vote is to call it a towntell? Clearly he wanted people to comment or wagon him which is what I did. It could be pro-town if TIP actually developed reads based on the comments, questioned people on his wagon, and analyzed it for people's motivations. So far, he hasn't done anything of that sort. I am still null.

EspeciallyTheLies, I don't like that your response has been to simply say that you weren't following the game deeply. You already seem to have reads (TIP as town) and analysis. What did you mean when you said "TIP was clearly looking for stupid scum." What would stupid scum do in this situation? Based on his behavior, I am also not sold that TIP is looking for anything whatsoever.
I mean, I just did it for shits and giggles, I wasn't expecting people to overreact
just the tIP
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:14 am

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For the record, I voted TIP because he's TIP, not because he voted an IC.

Just thought I'd throw that out there
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:14 am

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Why... pitoli... no one asked...
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:17 am

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Precisely my thoughts
just the tIP
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:18 am

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Bulb it's like you've never seen an arbitrary page 1 vote before?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:20 am

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Was it really RVS; though?
Btw I am not the doctor
just the tIP
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:42 am

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Considering ETL's frustration, I am leaning more towards her being town. I need to double-check other games to see if she fakes it as scum. She was frustrated in Newbie 1347 as well in the initial stages of the game but it seemed very different the way she handled it. I'll try and check more recent games though.

Sangres, thoughts so far? What do you make of TIP's vote on the IC, and Bulbazak's, Pitoli's and ETL's reactions to it?
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:49 am

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In post 54, pitoli wrote:Bulb it's like you've never seen an arbitrary page 1 vote before?
But we're not talking about RVS. We're talking about wagons. Why are you trying to make it about RVS now?
In post 55, TheIrishPope wrote: Btw I am not the doctor
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:56 am

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What frustration F-16? How do my 3 or 4 posts give you a town read on me already?

VOTE: F-16

First you try to paint me as scummy for saying "I'm at work right now" and then all of a sudden my "frustration looks town"? From my POV, you said something stupid and I pointed it out.

Also, pretending you can use meta on me based on my very first newbie game is pretty funny.

I was a cop there and Bulbazak was in it too.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:02 am

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Okay, now my townread is stronger. I didn't have a "strong" townread on you, just something that looked townish at first glance and made me think "possibly town." Since it was early on in the game, I laid it out so that others can comment on it and discuss. Now, I much more sure that you are town based on immediately attacking me after I backed off. I feel that scum would be happy to mutually back out of an argument. I looked at your wiki to see what I could find. I didn't realize how old the game was. I'll try and find some newer ones.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:14 am

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^ this post is weird but I don't know why

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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:18 am

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In post 60, Lastsurvivor wrote:^ this post is weird but I don't know why

I'll be more useful when I'm on a computer !
Yes. It is weird. I'll tell you why:

He got caught for back peddling after he attempted to make me look scummy for something that wasn't scummy. So now he's trying to say he meant to do something scummy to get a reaction out of me and/or the rest of the thread. Except he clearly wasn't "reaction testing". Not to mention the fact that even if it was, it was a bad one, and it looks more like he's trying to avoid OMGUS because he thinks it will make him look worse, when in fact it's what I'd expect from a townie. Not this soft and sickly sweet buddying he's attempting.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:36 am

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In post 61, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:He got caught for back peddling after he attempted to make me look scummy for something that wasn't scummy. So now he's trying to say he meant to do something scummy to get a reaction out of me and/or the rest of the thread. Except he clearly wasn't "reaction testing". Not to mention the fact that even if it was, it was a bad one, and it looks more like he's trying to avoid OMGUS because he thinks it will make him look worse, when in fact it's what I'd expect from a townie. Not this soft and sickly sweet buddying he's attempting.
Hmm I wanted to figure it out on my own.

But I thought the buddying was the weirdest part of that post. When someone votes me, my reaction is not "Wow I think you're really town."
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:37 am

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Right, exactly my point. And sorry I butted in on your thought processes. But I had to say it.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:38 am

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Post : I am not buddying, I am saying that I have a townread on you. Would you rather I OMGUS a townread? My initial townread was not a "reaction test" and I never said it was. I had a weak townread and I explained why. I didn't attempt to "make you look scummy", I found you scummy. Then I read you as weak town, then I read you as strong town. I didn't intend any of these reads to make me look scummy or part of some grand plan of reaction testing. They are the natural progression of my reads.

Your current attack on me reads as if you genuinely believe you caught scum so now you are in my "never-lynch" pile. That leaves 6 other players and I think there are 2 scum in there.

Pedit: I explained my reasoning for thinking ETL as town. If you think I am suspicion for not OMGUSing, you underestimate my ability to develop accurate reads. Besides, scum can OMGUS too. It is null. Bad town and bad scum OMGUS everyone that suspects them.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:02 pm

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In post 56, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Considering ETL's frustration, I am leaning more towards her being town. I need to double-check other games to see if she fakes it as scum. She was frustrated in Newbie 1347 as well in the initial stages of the game but it seemed very different the way she handled it. I'll try and check more recent games though.

Sangres, thoughts so far? What do you make of TIP's vote on the IC, and Bulbazak's, Pitoli's and ETL's reactions to it?
How much of your ETL read is rule-of-thumb based?

Of the three, the one I like least is Pitoli's reaction.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:28 pm

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What do you mean, "rule-of-thumb" based?

What don't you like about Pitoli's reaction?

Do you agree with me that ETL is obvtown?
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:28 pm

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No.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:30 pm

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BTW is there something I should know about this setup or is it just something BB came up with in his head last month?
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:48 pm

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In post 66, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:What do you mean, "rule-of-thumb" based?
not player specific.
What don't you like about Pitoli's reaction?


I don't like that she didn't take thread events into account. It looked like a "wheeeeeeeee! RVS wagon!" vote at a point where the thread should have abruptly moved out of RVS.

What are your thoughts about Pitoli's reaction?
Do you agree with me that ETL is obvtown?
Because of her reaction to you? I'm tempted to do a bert-style game metaphor.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:49 pm

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In post 68, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:BTW is there something I should know about this setup or is it just something BB came up with in his head last month?
afaik it's the latter.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:14 pm

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In post 68, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:BTW is there something I should know about this setup
There is no doctor. Also, Pitoli drew scum.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:14 pm

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How do you know that
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:14 pm

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Not the doctor thing, the pitoli thing
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:16 pm

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I'm a daycop. I scanned Pitoli and got a guilty.
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