Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[morph the cat]

Hi, I've only read up to page 26. I'll try to get through everything, but until then is there anything I really need to know?

I saw the plan and followed it, spending five dollars on each of the five abilities, and sent $140 to Lost Butterfly.

Anything else you need from me for now?

Can you go over zde's ISO and confirm he won everything he claimed to have won the previous nights?

What reads do you have? Do you agree with the Big Five townreads that were laid out still?

Maybe I've been hanging around Cabd too much, but I really don't like this advice.

[KingdomAces]

Yes, I have Hitman and Investigative Immunity.

Something about Upside just seemed off to me, and PV/Pieguyn pretty much seemed non-existent. I do have townreads on the other two though.

Among everyone else, Eagle's confusion seemed genuine enough, and I think I remember thinking that Gaurda/Harakiri were fairly town. I don't have any scumreads though, because I don't get scumreads.

PEdit: I don't see any possible harm in saying what Zd already said, and I don't know why I forgot to mention reads earlier. How could it be bad advice?

[Voidedmafia]

You can talk to me too, since I'm here for a while longer.

What does DP's flip do to any of your reads?

Have you gotten anything from DP's ISO yet? Or from who voted him and why?

Is your read on your neighbor strong enough that if you outted him or her now you'd advocate them to be part of the five? Or is it just enough that you would argue against their lynch if it came to that?

To everyone else: should we ask him to try and buy the nk every night if he's town? If he's scum I imagine that either the funds he's going to get will either be spent on the nk anyways or divvied up among his team, but if he's town I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have him go for just the nk. Certainly he shouldn't go for things like doc, but it would seem that letting him spread the money out some wouldn't be too big a problem, at least for n3.

[morph the cat]

Yes, I have Hitman and Investigative Immunity.

Something about Upside just seemed off to me, and PV/Pieguyn pretty much seemed non-existent. I do have townreads on the other two though.

Among everyone else, Eagle's confusion seemed genuine enough, and I think I remember thinking that Gaurda/Harakiri were fairly town. I don't have any scumreads though, because I don't get scumreads.

PEdit: I don't see any possible harm in saying what Zd already said, and I don't know why I forgot to mention reads earlier. How could it be bad advice?

It gave me a coaching vibe. I was joking a little about Cabd, but he would have been far more likely set up a reaction test than tell you to read your predecessor's posts.

[morph the cat]

Hi, I've only read up to page 26. I'll try to get through everything, but until then is there anything I really need to know?

I saw the plan and followed it, spending five dollars on each of the five abilities, and sent $140 to Lost Butterfly.

Anything else you need from me for now?

Can you go over zde's ISO and confirm he won everything he claimed to have won the previous nights?

What reads do you have? Do you agree with the Big Five townreads that were laid out still?

[morph the cat]

Oh lol 'dat crosspost.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

I think getting up in the middle of the night to hammer is pretty damn town.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Are we full-claiming amounts we spent and roles we have, or just WHAT we bid on last night?

Whoever got NK and BP should probably do the former. The rest can do the latter, I think.

Why would BP claim?

[morph the cat]

Pere if you're hinting what I think you are, we have this shit locked up.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

P-Edit: Not really? Am I supposed to?

...

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...Really?

After all this time, you're just going to keep saying "VM's scum" like a broken record without thinking for one iota of a second that I MIGHT be town? Really?

Stop saying stupid shit like this.

[Voidedmafia]

given it's a large game, scum lynches this early in the game most likely will involve bussing. tho keep in mind there's only 2 other people on his team (or mb 3)

now that you mention it, thinking about it from a money standpoint bussing might not be such a good idea. not sure atm >_<

It seems more likely that right-scum were on it.

There may be one leftie who was stuck with the bus job, but it seems more like the third (or other two) would've distanced or not been on it.

That makes mhork worse, imo. Sure, using medium on tammy is a town-looking move, but I really don't like his half-hearted support of the wagon and the fact that he never actually voted DP despite saying he agreed with it and should vote him.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

By the way, something that also needs to be talked about, but since we lost a member of The Big Six we have to decide whether we want to keep it down to 5 or to add a new member to receive money. If we're opting for the former, we need to be even more sure on those 5 given that the money pool is shrinking (this might be the best solution frankly).

We should at the very least remove DP's votes and get them from those that are still waiting to be online at the same time as their hydra buddy and so have been unable to discuss them.

[Voidedmafia]

I sent $150 to pieguyn.

Advatised $25 on everything said.

Kept $50 because klick spent nothing.

Aren't I a good townie

Why did you not send all you had? Or rather, why did you hold back $50?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Early day was a bit :neutral: , but I'm passing that off to a bad/failed/weak reaction attempt. Other than light activity, the responses seem more town than scum. Some of the analysis I agree with, and we may have worked together to stump scum, but I'm still waiting for a response to that particular question.

New neighbor is busy, but has said they will return soon.

Wait, you made separate neighborhoods? Why the

hell

would you do that, especially if you think they're both town?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

I sent $150 to pieguyn.

Advatised $25 on everything said.

Kept $50 because klick spent nothing.

Aren't I a good townie :P

Wait, Klick was telling the truth when he said that? I thought it was another of his stupid gambits-with-no-point.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Hi, I've only read up to page 26. I'll try to get through everything, but until then is there anything I really need to know?

I saw the plan and followed it, spending five dollars on each of the five abilities, and sent $140 to Lost Butterfly.

Anything else you need from me for now?

Can you go over zde's ISO and confirm he won everything he claimed to have won the previous nights?

What reads do you have? Do you agree with the Big Five townreads that were laid out still?

Why are you suggesting he reads Zdenek's iso before claiming what he won?

[PeregrineV]

Yes, I have Hitman and Investigative Immunity.

Something about Upside just seemed off to me, and PV/Pieguyn pretty much seemed non-existent. I do have townreads on the other two though.

Among everyone else, Eagle's confusion seemed genuine enough, and I think I remember thinking that Gaurda/Harakiri were fairly town. I don't have any scumreads though, because I don't get scumreads.

PEdit: I don't see any possible harm in saying what Zd already said, and I don't know why I forgot to mention reads earlier. How could it be bad advice?

You can talk to me too, since I'm here for a while longer.

What does DP's flip do to any of your reads?

Have you gotten anything from DP's ISO yet? Or from who voted him and why?

Is your read on your neighbor strong enough that if you outted him or her now you'd advocate them to be part of the five? Or is it just enough that you would argue against their lynch if it came to that?

To everyone else: should we ask him to try and buy the nk every night if he's town? If he's scum I imagine that either the funds he's going to get will either be spent on the nk anyways or divvied up among his team, but if he's town I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have him go for just the nk. Certainly he shouldn't go for things like doc, but it would seem that letting him spread the money out some wouldn't be too big a problem, at least for n3.

Well, first was the DrP townreads, given by him when he had a single vote on him (Garuda). So, that brought up the question of "Does DrP try to slip a scumbuddy into a town reads?" Consesus is yes, he did try it.

Town:
LB
Pyro
Zmuffin
Zdnek
Mhork
morph

Since I agree on the LB/morph townreads, that left Pyro, Zmuffin, Zdenek/Kingdom and Mhork to look at.

Pyro is now town, and mostly was then, so focused on the other three.

Zmuffin I am still , and I will be until I have a good reason not to.

Zdenek I isoed, and he still didn't ring back town to me, although at some point I usually get that vibe from Zdenek. Also looked at Mhork Iso. Noted some interactions between the three, and some common reads.

As of right now, with today's post, if I still stick by DrP putting a buddy in the list, I'd probably go with Zdenek/Kingdom.

Also, DrP scumreads early-game:

Read up to page 38, that Hermy wagon was bad for the build up but I guess it was necessary because of lol shortened deadline.
I advertised tracker last night.

scum reads:
ProHawk - not hammering "obv town" after a) proclaiming obv town when person flipped and b) denouncing the hammer AFTER it was a deadline lynch. Your defense of her wasn't pointing out that she was obv town, rather null or not scummy based on inactivity. Huge difference there.
Upside Down - seriously almost nothing coming from this slot. Its like most of the early posts were posts for the sake of posting and looking active
Garuda - Something about the "I like this" list of Voided's posts. He just outlined all the irrelevant, non alignment proving things said by Voided at that point.
Nero - weird push on HaraKiri. Its like the main point of attack is "Sakura is scum for always sheeping Nacho"

And considering Tracker left the game, guessing this was false.
Discussed feasibility of putting a scumbuddy in the scumreads. Figured chances were lower, since scum can win together, making it highly likely that these are townreads.

Going back to Kingdom/Zdenek, you gave your assessment of townreads in 2201. However, Zdenek never posted any. Please explain.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Hi, I've only read up to page 26. I'll try to get through everything, but until then is there anything I really need to know?

I saw the plan and followed it, spending five dollars on each of the five abilities, and sent $140 to Lost Butterfly.

Anything else you need from me for now?

Can you go over zde's ISO and confirm he won everything he claimed to have won the previous nights?

What reads do you have? Do you agree with the Big Five townreads that were laid out still?

Why are you suggesting he reads Zdenek's iso before claiming what he won?

that defeats the purpose of asking a replacement their predecessors' abilities.

[PeregrineV]

Early day was a bit , but I'm passing that off to a bad/failed/weak reaction attempt. Other than light activity, the responses seem more town than scum. Some of the analysis I agree with, and we may have worked together to stump scum, but I'm still waiting for a response to that particular question.

New neighbor is busy, but has said they will return soon.

Wait, you made separate neighborhoods? Why the

hell

would you do that, especially if you think they're both town?

Have you never played mafia with me? I enjoy playing, and I like to think I don't suck, but just in case, I hedged my bets.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

What does DP's flip do to any of your reads?

Are you deliberately asking stupid questions now or what?

[PeregrineV]

given it's a large game, scum lynches this early in the game most likely will involve bussing. tho keep in mind there's only 2 other people on his team (or mb 3)

now that you mention it, thinking about it from a money standpoint bussing might not be such a good idea. not sure atm >_<

It seems more likely that right-scum were on it.

There may be one leftie who was stuck with the bus job, but it seems more like the third (or other two) would've distanced or not been on it.

That makes mhork worse, imo. Sure, using medium on tammy is a town-looking move, but I really don't like his half-hearted support of the wagon and the fact that he never actually voted DP despite saying he agreed with it and should vote him.

He claimed to use it on Pyro, and you seem to believe him, but if you think he's scum, do you think he

ACTUALLY

mediumed Tammy when he could/would medium DrPepper?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Early day was a bit :neutral: , but I'm passing that off to a bad/failed/weak reaction attempt. Other than light activity, the responses seem more town than scum. Some of the analysis I agree with, and we may have worked together to stump scum, but I'm still waiting for a response to that particular question.

New neighbor is busy, but has said they will return soon.

Wait, you made separate neighborhoods? Why the

hell

would you do that, especially if you think they're both town?

Have you never played mafia with me? I enjoy playing, and I like to think I don't suck, but just in case, I hedged my bets.

Didn't you think that the two neighbors might have wanted to try and get betters reads on each other too?

[PeregrineV]

Is your read on your neighbor strong enough that if you outted him or her now you'd advocate them to be part of the five? Or is it just enough that you would argue against their lynch if it came to that?

It's an in progress thing. I think things are developing nicely, but they have to keep doing so.

[morph the cat]

given it's a large game, scum lynches this early in the game most likely will involve bussing. tho keep in mind there's only 2 other people on his team (or mb 3)

now that you mention it, thinking about it from a money standpoint bussing might not be such a good idea. not sure atm >_<

It seems more likely that right-scum were on it.

There may be one leftie who was stuck with the bus job, but it seems more like the third (or other two) would've distanced or not been on it.

That makes mhork worse, imo. Sure, using medium on tammy is a town-looking move, but I really don't like his half-hearted support of the wagon and the fact that he never actually voted DP despite saying he agreed with it and should vote him.

He claimed to use it on Pyro, and you seem to believe him, but if you think he's scum, do you think he

ACTUALLY

mediumed Tammy when he could/would medium DrPepper?

We can confirm that he is able to talk to pyro by using infomation only ffery, myself, and Syryana would know thanks to our past hydra games together.

Mhork, please ask the syryana head of pyrotechnics to confirm his existance by asking him "Syr, what move does Estelle use in that one image before Yuri dies?"

[morph the cat]

For the record, failure to answer correctly will be taken as a scum claim.