Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[morph the cat]

No, it sounds pretty natural, they're both preeeeetty pissy with us this game.

[morph the cat]

Scum might actually wait to use medium until later in the game.

per 2248 I'm satisfied that Pyro is still towreading Mhork.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

What does DP's flip do to any of your reads?

Are you deliberately asking stupid questions now or what?

Just because it's an obvious question doesn't make it a stupid one. Why are you so quick to discredit my questions?

P: yes, ud, it does. So why keep it secret?

It's not an obvious question; it's an actual stupid question. It's barely even a question at that - you're discrediting someone for changing their reads after a scumflip,

If that last bit is about you asking bulletproof to claim, you're really not thinking today.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

It also confirms they trust you enough to confirm themselves by correctly answering that question.

the hell?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Are you suggesting that Tammy would refuse to answer a question just because she might think Mhork was scum?

[1baldeagle1]

Ok, I just wanted to let everyone know, that I started working on the VCA on Voided.

I don't have a problem with BP claiming, they can't die.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

think about it. You've just died and been mediumed. Someone in the thread asks for confirmation from you that it really happened and you go "no, I won't answer this question because I think Mhork might be scum"?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Ok, I just wanted to let everyone know, that I started working on the VCA on Voided.

I don't have a problem with BP claiming, they can't die.

yes, but someone else can

[1baldeagle1]

Mhork is probably town.

[Voidedmafia]

My reads right now are pretty much just gut.

I'm too tired to do any serious reading right now, but I'll make an effort to get some more reads with reasons out tomorrow.

Where did you think Bald looked confused? What about upside looked off to you. I understand that it's gut, but certainly you have a faint idea where you got these feelings from?

P: how am I discrediting him? I'm asking him if DP's flips caused a change in his reads at all. I'm glad to see that your discrediting abilities are still sharp, though.

And no, maybe I'm not. That's always a possibility. But that still does nothing to disprove what I said, or do you really have that much of a problem with knowing who is certainly safe for two nights?

(Btw, yes I'm aware that there's a problem if aces is scum, but then all that needs to be done is add another layer of protection if he is, no?)

P2: that's lovely, baldy. Now how about you give results instead of saying you're getting them. That afraid you'll lose townpoints?

And that's what doctor is for, ud.

[morph the cat]

think about it. You've just died and been mediumed. Someone in the thread asks for confirmation from you that it really happened and you go "no, I won't answer this question because I think Mhork might be scum"?

Maybe. I've been involved in QT's with dead players in 2 games. In one I was town, and in one I was scum. It was the dead player who initiated the QT in both instances.

In the one where I was town, the dead players took a really long time to decide they trusted me (me and Syr actually - it was the Rift hydra) enough to initiate contact. And the other living players were looking pretty carefully at the stuff I posted to see if it sounded like paraphrase of the dead hydra I was in contact with.

Syr and Nacho were the heads of the dead hydra who neighborized Morph-me in the other game. They did stuff that would be almost impossible for Morph-me to fake, which confirmed to the living players that we were actually in contact.

[1baldeagle1]

My reads right now are pretty much just gut.

I'm too tired to do any serious reading right now, but I'll make an effort to get some more reads with reasons out tomorrow.

Where did you think Bald looked confused? What about upside looked off to you. I understand that it's gut, but certainly you have a faint idea where you got these feelings from?

P: how am I discrediting him? I'm asking him if DP's flips caused a change in his reads at all. I'm glad to see that your discrediting abilities are still sharp, though.

And no, maybe I'm not. That's always a possibility. But that still does nothing to disprove what I said, or do you really have that much of a problem with knowing who is certainly safe for two nights?

(Btw, yes I'm aware that there's a problem if aces is scum, but then all that needs to be done is add another layer of protection if he is, no?)

P2: that's lovely, baldy. Now how about you give results instead of saying you're getting them. That afraid you'll lose townpoints?

And that's what doctor is for, ud.

Dude, seriously? That was a horrible discredit. I'm WORKING on it. VCA can take awhile if you are color coding them, (this includes every vote in the game) along with analysis. Plus, I have a life.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

My reads right now are pretty much just gut.

I'm too tired to do any serious reading right now, but I'll make an effort to get some more reads with reasons out tomorrow.

Where did you think Bald looked confused? What about upside looked off to you. I understand that it's gut, but certainly you have a faint idea where you got these feelings from?

P: how am I discrediting him? I'm asking him if DP's flips caused a change in his reads at all. I'm glad to see that your discrediting abilities are still sharp, though.

I actually misread it and didn't realise you were the first to bring it up. I apologise; it's actually a good question!

[1baldeagle1]

(this includes every vote count in the game)*

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

think about it. You've just died and been mediumed. Someone in the thread asks for confirmation from you that it really happened and you go "no, I won't answer this question because I think Mhork might be scum"?

Maybe. I've been involved in QT's with dead players in 2 games. In one I was town, and in one I was scum. It was the dead player who initiated the QT in both instances.

In the one where I was town, the dead players took a really long time to decide they trusted me (me and Syr actually - it was the Rift hydra) enough to initiate contact. And the other living players were looking pretty carefully at the stuff I posted to see if it sounded like paraphrase of the dead hydra I was in contact with.

Syr and Nacho were the heads of the dead hydra who neighborized Morph-me in the other game. They did stuff that would be almost impossible for Morph-me to fake, which confirmed to the living players that we were actually in contact.

that doesn't mean anything about Tammy "trusting" Mhork.

[morph the cat]

think about it. You've just died and been mediumed. Someone in the thread asks for confirmation from you that it really happened and you go "no, I won't answer this question because I think Mhork might be scum"?

Maybe. I've been involved in QT's with dead players in 2 games. In one I was town, and in one I was scum. It was the dead player who initiated the QT in both instances.

In the one where I was town, the dead players took a really long time to decide they trusted me (me and Syr actually - it was the Rift hydra) enough to initiate contact. And the other living players were looking pretty carefully at the stuff I posted to see if it sounded like paraphrase of the dead hydra I was in contact with.

Syr and Nacho were the heads of the dead hydra who neighborized Morph-me in the other game. They did stuff that would be almost impossible for Morph-me to fake, which confirmed to the living players that we were actually in contact.

that doesn't mean anything about Tammy "trusting" Mhork.

To each their own. If I was dead and I was scumreading the person who dug me up to talk, I'd answer the question incorrectly in such a way that they'd get lynched for faking it.

[Voidedmafia]

Because you're fucking telling him to check his ISO before confirming the actions, voided. It smells like a scumfuck coaching another scumfuck that was gambiting.

I'd know, it's almsot exactly what i told my replacement when replaicng out in NY165.

As I said, so what? I would've had at least a few hours prior to the thread opening to remind him to get his shit straight. And besides, what exactly would i or he gain?

P: k, baldy. Whatevs you say, boss.

[morph the cat]

think about it. You've just died and been mediumed. Someone in the thread asks for confirmation from you that it really happened and you go "no, I won't answer this question because I think Mhork might be scum"?

Maybe. I've been involved in QT's with dead players in 2 games. In one I was town, and in one I was scum. It was the dead player who initiated the QT in both instances.

In the one where I was town, the dead players took a really long time to decide they trusted me (me and Syr actually - it was the Rift hydra) enough to initiate contact. And the other living players were looking pretty carefully at the stuff I posted to see if it sounded like paraphrase of the dead hydra I was in contact with.

Syr and Nacho were the heads of the dead hydra who neighborized Morph-me in the other game. They did stuff that would be almost impossible for Morph-me to fake, which confirmed to the living players that we were actually in contact.

that doesn't mean anything about Tammy "trusting" Mhork.

I think it does, especially the example where the players took their time initiating a QT with a living player. Pyro didn't get to decide who they were in contact with. If they doubted Mhork's alignment, they could have messed around a little with those answers. It would have caught our attention.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

think about it. You've just died and been mediumed. Someone in the thread asks for confirmation from you that it really happened and you go "no, I won't answer this question because I think Mhork might be scum"?

Maybe. I've been involved in QT's with dead players in 2 games. In one I was town, and in one I was scum. It was the dead player who initiated the QT in both instances.

In the one where I was town, the dead players took a really long time to decide they trusted me (me and Syr actually - it was the Rift hydra) enough to initiate contact. And the other living players were looking pretty carefully at the stuff I posted to see if it sounded like paraphrase of the dead hydra I was in contact with.

Syr and Nacho were the heads of the dead hydra who neighborized Morph-me in the other game. They did stuff that would be almost impossible for Morph-me to fake, which confirmed to the living players that we were actually in contact.

that doesn't mean anything about Tammy "trusting" Mhork.

To each their own. If I was dead and I was scumreading the person who dug me up to talk, I'd answer the question incorrectly in such a way that they'd get lynched for faking it.

And if they flip town?

[Voidedmafia]

1. I didn't quite realise how much I had.
2. Fuck you thats why.

How would you not know how much you had? Magua would tell you exactly how much you had when you replace in, and certainly after all the end-day bonuses were figured

[morph the cat]

think about it. You've just died and been mediumed. Someone in the thread asks for confirmation from you that it really happened and you go "no, I won't answer this question because I think Mhork might be scum"?

Maybe. I've been involved in QT's with dead players in 2 games. In one I was town, and in one I was scum. It was the dead player who initiated the QT in both instances.

In the one where I was town, the dead players took a really long time to decide they trusted me (me and Syr actually - it was the Rift hydra) enough to initiate contact. And the other living players were looking pretty carefully at the stuff I posted to see if it sounded like paraphrase of the dead hydra I was in contact with.

Syr and Nacho were the heads of the dead hydra who neighborized Morph-me in the other game. They did stuff that would be almost impossible for Morph-me to fake, which confirmed to the living players that we were actually in contact.

that doesn't mean anything about Tammy "trusting" Mhork.

To each their own. If I was dead and I was scumreading the person who dug me up to talk, I'd answer the question incorrectly in such a way that they'd get lynched for faking it.

And if they flip town?

That was my (more nuanced) point. An answer could be correct and yet still convey some doubt. That's not what I got back.

[KingdomAces]

If I need to explain where Bald looked confused, then I might actually be thinking of something else. It was the sole issue in the first few pages of the game.

And the thing about upside is that I just saw them as a hydra, so they have double the capacity to try and be useful, but literally all they did was troll. Once again, I did this reading two replacement requests ago, and my memory is terrible.

Really, I'm probably just being a huge idiot at the moment. Actually leaving now.

PEdit: I don't know if it actually matters to the discussion, but as soon as I saw that I had two incredibly antitown abilities, the first thing I did was check to see if Zd had already claimed them. Since he did, I didn't think it was worth mentioning myself.

[Voidedmafia]

No, it sounds pretty natural, they're both preeeeetty pissy with us this game.

Pissy enough to refuse a request to pretty much 100% confirm that mhork medium'd them? Seems kinda petty to me.

[1baldeagle1]

If your name is Mhork, please read this.

Can you please ask Pyro the following:
-Top 3 Scumreads
-Top 3 Townreads
-Read on VoidedMafia

[morph the cat]

No, it sounds pretty natural, they're both preeeeetty pissy with us this game.

Pissy enough to refuse a request to pretty much 100% confirm that mhork medium'd them? Seems kinda petty to me.

Why are you asking this? That's not what they did.