Mewbie 1442 the second -- Game over

[jmo16mla]

Vote: CrisP

Discuss.

I found his reply rather town actually. I was looking for "it was a joke" as a reason..

Buck, I told him to vote GM. why aren't you questioning me? Whats wrong with 3 votes on someone?

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: GIF
Did that really need a 3rd vote?

Yes

[Malakittens]

They rang the doorbell hoping for the door to be answered. They grinned their teeth and in harmony said 'Trick or treet!'. The woman smiled and said in a crackling voice "Hello my pretties! What nice costumes you have!".



"This witch is from the wizard of oz" said Nachomamma8.
"She's scaring me! Lets get our candy and go!!" said Rachmarie.
"She don't scare me! I'm a sheriff from the Wild West!" said Buckwild.
"My hair matches her skin tone!" said GuyInFreezer.
"She's going to turn me into crispy treat. " said Crisp
"I'll go super sayian on her! Everyone watch out!" said Jmo16mla.
"Just pour water on her and she'll melt, but beware putting water on me may short circuit me!" Says imdrrobot
"Lets hop in my car and go!" says Diamondcrash
"Oh no! She's coming after me and my little dog too!" says Goodmorning

The witch handed them the candy and then started to laugh uncontrollably! Pointing to Goodmorning and shouting, "I'll get you my pretty... And your little dog too!"

They started to run down to the street.

Vote Count 1.02

With 9 alive it's 5 votes to lynch.

Voting for:

*CrisP - Goodmorning [1]
*guyinfreezer - Buckwild [1]
*goodmorning - Nachomamma8, jmo16mla, GuyInFreezer [3]
*IamDrRobot -
*jmo16mla -
*DiamondCrash -
*Buckwild -
*RachMarie -
*Nachomamma8 -

Not voting: IamDrRobot, DiamondCrash, RachMarie, CrisP [4]

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-11-12 20:39:00)

[goodmorning]

Vote: CrisP

Discuss.

I found his reply rather town actually. I was looking for "it was a joke" as a reason..

In your experience, is "it was a joke" more common from Town or Scum?

[goodmorning]

Oh, and @GIF: No to your earlier post and ok to your most recent.

[GuyInFreezer]

I was looking for "it was a joke" as a reason..

I assume that the reaction you were expecting is null reaction?

[GuyInFreezer]

Silly GM. Discussion needs a topic. Not too broad, not to narrow. So what exactly did you want to discuss about CrisP?

Also, I just realized that gm asked a same question few minutes before me. smh

[Buckwild]

I don't see a post from you telling anyone to vote him. I was gonna ask the question to you, but the 3rd vote felt more scummy.
GIF, do you think GM's vote was real?

[GuyInFreezer]

People, vote goodmorning.

[GuyInFreezer]

^ answering Buck's question

[GuyInFreezer]

GIF, do you think GM's vote was real?

Do you think that mattered when I voted her?

[jmo16mla]

People, vote goodmorning.

See this post..

Newb scum like to unvote quickly when they realize they're wrong. Typically they don't move their vote to someone. I'm keeping my eyes on Chrisp, but he's town right now.

In serious as hell about my vote on GM though.

Buck, why would my vote on GM be scummy enough for you to ask me about it? What's wrong with me putting a second vote on someone?

[Buckwild]

GIF, do you think GM's vote was real?

Do you think that mattered when I voted her?

Yes. So did you?

[Buckwild]

Answering JMO, it depends on whether you though GM's vote was real. But I am asking that question to GIF right now.

[GuyInFreezer]

No, it didn't matter.
I'm just sheeping jmo.

[goodmorning]

^Interesting

[jmo16mla]

^Interesting

youre scum.

[goodmorning]

You do keep saying that.

I have yet to discover anyone for whom saying could make it so, though.

[CrisP]

Of course we are all fishing at the moment GM, still you could try to be proactive instead of defensive, I liked the vote on me plus discussion, given my mistake about the game setup last time it's reasonable, but you could have elaborated more and after that you spent your time defending yourself, which is not pro town in my eyes, there's not much you can say to defend yourself at the start so you might as well show you are town by helping and ignore the random heat (if you're town).

Newb scum like to unvote quickly when they realize they're wrong. Typically they don't move their vote to someone. I'm keeping my eyes on Chrisp, but he's town right now.

I'm new on mafiascum but I have played a lot of IRL mafia for years.

In my opinion newbs lurk, especially if they are mafia. I want to point out to BW, since he didn't believe me at the time, that following that rule last game we would have found the two mafia after 40 posts day 1.

[DiamondCrash]

Of course we are all fishing at the moment GM, still you could try to be proactive instead of defensive.

I'm not sure what GM could have said to the statement "youre scum" [sic] that isn't "hah no".

I liked the vote on me plus discussion, given my mistake about the game setup last time it's reasonable, but you could have elaborated more and after that you spent your time defending yourself, which is not pro town in my eyes, there's not much you can say to defend yourself at the start so you might as well show you are town by helping and ignore the random heat (if you're town).

If you ask me, I think the idea of stimulating discussion can be very easily done by anyone, town or not. Moreover, why would a townsperson not be defensive while on the recieving end of the heat; and why would that be a bad thing for a townsperson to do?

In my opinion newbs lurk, especially if they are mafia. I want to point out to BW, since he didn't believe me at the time, that following that rule last game we would have found the two mafia after 40 posts day 1.

Coincidence does not equal evidence, I'm afraid, and I'm one of those tricky people who insists on a bit more than "they're not here mostly" as a reason. Also; I don't see how that relates to that jmo16mla quote at all.

[CrisP]

I'm not sure what GM could have said to the statement "youre scum" [sic] that isn't "hah no".

She could have said: why do you think I am mafia, or I'm not mafia and it's interesting you think so (cause in her mind that person is either mistaken or faking it), and these are just two replies that come to mind after 5 seconds of thought, I'm sure there are a lot of possibilities, being defensive is not wrong per se (as a human reaction it's a null tell or slightly scummy if you are playing against an expierienced mafia player), but it doesn't help the rest of town if that is her alignment.

If you ask me, I think the idea of stimulating discussion can be very easily done by anyone, town or not. Moreover, why would a townsperson not be defensive while on the recieving end of the heat; and why would that be a bad thing for a townsperson to do?

Interesting opinion, which I completely disagree on. Why would mafia be interested in stimulating discussion? They have more information than anyone else in the game at the moment so for every thing they say they risk exposure, not to mention the more information you give to the rest of town the easier it is late game to determine what alignment you are (by looking at who you went against, who you voted, who you deflected for, what you posted), mafia just wants a confused or lynch hungry town so they can play pro mafia and not stand out. This is also one of the main reasons I will happily lynch possible quiet town if no consensus is reached on someone that looks mafia, especially day one, otherwise you risk lynching someone you should not have at a critical moment if that person has given you nothing to work on up till that point to determine his/her alignment.

Coincidence does not equal evidence, I'm afraid, and I'm one of those tricky people who insists on a bit more than "they're not here mostly" as a reason. Also; I don't see how that relates to that jmo16mla quote at all.

Well are you implying that I asked for a lynch on whoever hasn't spoken till now? Otherwise the non sequitor is in your comment, not mine. Mine relates in the sense that in my experience newbs as jmo called them don't behave in the manner he described, now it could be I never paid attention or noticed this pattern, it could be what he said is not true and that's why I highlighted it, tell me that is not pertinent.

[goodmorning]

I'm not sure what GM could have said to the statement "youre scum" [sic] that isn't "hah no".

She could have said: why do you think I am mafia, or I'm not mafia and it's interesting you think so (cause in her mind that person is either mistaken or faking it), and these are just two replies that come to mind after 5 seconds of thought, I'm sure there are a lot of possibilities, being defensive is not wrong per se (as a human reaction it's a null tell or slightly scummy if you are playing against an expierienced mafia player), but it doesn't help the rest of town if that is her alignment.

This assumes several things:
1. That I think they're serious (I don't)
2. That they actually are serious (as I doubt)
3. That even if they are serious they have explicable reasons (which they don't)
4. That I haven't already said something useful. (Which I have, unless people were too stupid to realize that my vote on you was a real one or that GIF's post needs some attention.)

Why would mafia be interested in stimulating discussion?

To make themselves look Town.

It's difficult to make many judgement calls when most of the playerlist hasn't been posting.

[GuyInFreezer]

^Interesting

You'll have to instalynch me if you really want to avoid 300+ of my posts. I'm writing wallz for another game tonight, so here's your chance!

VOTE: FERY

UNVOTE:
VOTE: AA9

Interesting.

[GuyInFreezer]

What do you make of Mala's posts?

Seeing as I think she is Scum...?


I find it hilarious that the entire Mala wagon disintegrated. That is interesting.

Null: Bulba (because I can't stop flipflopping), Bacde (for not having read back (there's some interesting stuff back there))

This word "interesting" might as well be your scumclaim!

[GuyInFreezer]

Nvm. Broken by hyrule game.
(I had my hopes up because you didn't use that word in new matrix game)