NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[goodmorning]

EVERYTHING IS PROFOUND

NOTHING IS MEANINGFUL

THIS IS EMBARRASSING

Votecount 1.6

TheIrishPope [L-6] - Hermy, Sakura Hana, Toomai

MVP [L-7] - Doctor Jekyll, PeregrineV

Wake88 [L-8] - yessiree

Hermy [L-8] - MVP

Guyett [L-8] - MC Maraca

MC Maraca [L-8] - RadiantCowbells

likeabauss [L-8] - Rank

yessiree [L-8] - likeabauss

JacobSavage [L-8] - sangres

Your most precious and obviously appreciated Mod [L-∞] - Guyett

Not Voting [4] - JacobSavage, caledfwitch, Wake88, TheIrishPope

With 17 alive, it takes

9

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-11-20 09:39:00)

[Doctor Jekyll]

Ok 148 is something I can agree that comes more from a town perspective. still veeeery far from conftown tho.

It is? How is that the case? Grasping for straws? You feel fake to me.

~Jekyll

[TheIrishPope]

How is that buddying...
...
...

[MC Maraca]

How many times have she done it and what was the reason for her to do so?

Once that I remember.
For the reason of being scumread, no one had piled any votes yet and she self-voted then scum quickhammered.

Guyett was there, ask him how it went down. He was "in the moment"

Just to clarify, if we ever come across a debacle whether to lynch or leash claimed SK, I'll be vehemently in favor of breaking its neck.

This shows your relative inexperience with serial killers in larges. Always better to leash for a few days before lylo.

Actually, good question for everyone. SK is found day one. Lynch or leash? Give reasoning, there will be a grading rubric.

I don't see the point in trying to control a third party who has essentially already lost all hope of winning. There's no reason for them to follow along.

Like somebody else said, it's more about denying the other antitown wincon a win at that point out of spite.

Actually, good question for everyone. SK is found day one. Lynch or leash? Give reasoning, there will be a grading rubric.

I don't see the point in trying to control a third party who has essentially already lost all hope of winning. There's no reason for them to follow along.

We think leash in the short run, and kill immediately upon deviation. We also feel like it's probably a moot point.

This is the correct answer for those of you keeping score at home.

Depends if you can make scum waste a bullet on it.

You usually can, but it's still worth leashing even if they're bulletproof.

Holy crickets. I self-voted in Ly-Lo
- Once
- In my first newbie game
- When I was extremely pissed off
- And was going to get lynched anyway

I've never done it otherwise. Ugh. It was a one off, I feel stupid for doing so, but I'd truly prefer it if I wasn't labelled as bad for something I did ONCE, ages ago

It was under two months ago, so it's fairly recent; but yes, players improve. It's your job to shed that aura you built yourself.

I know.
And it was my RVS vote.
You getting this pissy about it is giving me bad vibes.

Framing it as a true PL was pretty fucked up, for the record, because that's the sort of thing I've seen people get PL'd for.

You were pretty known that day on site chat i'm sure.

When Cabd jumped and said "Hey Sakura, I saw someone who self-voted in LyLo!"

^Chances are as soon as a given game finishes, I'm already talking about it on sitechat with people.

1. MC Maraca (hydra of Mara and certainly not Cabd): these guys are so cool, Mara my favourite player on MS and

Cabd the scummy motherfucker

2. Doctor Jekyll is a hydra with Cephrir and Cephrir
3. Sakura Hana is my secret girlfriend (it's so secret, even she doesn't know it yet)
4. sangres (hydra of Nacho and ffery): Nacho is like 13 and ffery is like 12 and they'll both call me Jacob
5. JacobSavage is a lurky scumfuck
6. MVP (hydra) is a hydra... Durr
7. caledfwitch is no one
8. Guyett is an Irish drunk
9. likeabauss is in love with the guy below
10. Rank is in love with the guy above
11. Wake88 is one of those players that annoy the fuck out of you
12. Hermy is a lolnoob
13. PeregrineV is an extremely strong player who got me lynched in Walking Dead
14. RadiantCowbells replaced into a scum slot in the other only large normal I've played
15. Toomai I've played with once
16. yessiree is yessiree
17. TheIrishPope is silky and Town

Wow! Productive day everyone!
Where the scum at?

Damn right I am. Except when I'm town and nail your ass to the wall as scum. Actually have we ever played as the same alignment before? Maestro's newbie, xenologue, NY165, cold stone, hard boiled.... Hopefully this is a first. If not, mara and I will write out your death warrant soon enough.

Mmmmmm Hermy seems ok right now
MVP is weird
Sangres is town
Dunno who to vote

Define weird. I have an idea of at least one head of MVP's ID so this actually fits into their usual shit more... I think.

Most of the time, Town fucks up everything

Last time i did a gambit i got a conf town, but town lynched him anyway.
Then i found both scum and subtly stated the plan for LyLo since i was conf town and was dying, but town didnt see it.

Lynched anyways guy at your service! TO be fair I self hammered because it actually gave town a better chance to win the game. Ffery-scum still won though.

^
Cabd post

You suck at this game.

Dont worry guys, I know Cabd likes to pretend to be his hydra partners when talking on hydra.

Wrong actually! I don't recall making a single post to impersonate another head of any of my hydrae ever, actually.

I have gut scum on Wake88, based on his approach into this game, particularly the SK speculation, avoiding meaningful discussion.

I did have a reason for the SK question.

other than that, the game has been pretty boring so far

someone wake me up when things get going please

Pedit: Both of them are mara posts, silly

When you SK kill someone tonight, who will be your first choice based on the 5 pages?

I'm probably gonna kill somebody who can peg me. Maybe that marangal bitch. Or ffery-nacho, given the results of perpetual MYLO. Barring those, maybe that ceph hydra. He's watched me play scum as a mod (AMOL mini theme)

I say we lynch TIP today, who wants to hamma?

Nb4 GM's one non-normal role is a lyncher with a tippy target.

I say we lynch TIP today, who wants to hamma?

>isn't voting TIP

Also, lynching TIP is pretty antitown when the hydras will know whether he's scum within five more pages.

Sadly I'm actually townreading this post though.

~Jekyll

I'm not. This is pretty null for yessiree, if you've watched his games before.

Hey kids, I'm here now. When did this whole thing get six pages already???

Unless you show your age you don't get to call us kids, you know.

yessiree, I believe you owe me an answer to my question.

-L. J.

well, do you think the discussion of whether or not to lynch or leash the "SK claim" is meaningful?

if yes, how?

if not, then there's your answer

It is actually! Free sheep* to the person who can tell me the goal of the question.
*It's gonna be a JPG not a vote

Just to clarify, I've been leashed when I was investigated as guilty, but single handedly got a scum lynched so everyone assumed I was SK but was actually third party Arsonist, and everyone kept telling me to NK or they'd lynch me, so I ended up just dousing and igniting day 5 for a win.

It makes me very leery of leashing people.

Given arsonist is a non normal role, you don't have to worry about that!

Ok 148 is something I can agree that comes more from a town perspective. still veeeery far from conftown tho.

It is? How is that the case? Grasping for straws? You feel fake to me.

~Jekyll

Ceph, sakura. Sakura, ceph.

[Guyett]

How many times have she done it and what was the reason for her to do so?

Once that I remember.
For the reason of being scumread, no one had piled any votes yet and she self-voted then scum quickhammered.

Guyett was there, ask him how it went down. He was "in the moment"

When was this?

[Guyett]

8. Guyett is an Irish drunk

[Guyett]

8. Guyett is an Irish drunk

[Guyett]

Wtf why didnt I get a game start pm

VOTE: goodmorning

On phone.. will post later

Goodmorning Guyett!

I admired your logical scumhunting in our last game together (Marvel vs DC) while cursing you under my breath.

I hope to see the same stuff here.

Or else.

Hello again, that was one of my better games... I'll try be as good here as I was there :tips hat:

[Guyett]

VOTE: Yissiree

not quite sure about Tippy yet but I have my eye on him. Yessiree's posts are a little odd, especially pushing the tippy wagon without being on it.

[Rank]

I know.
And it was my RVS vote.
You getting this pissy about it is giving me bad vibes.

I disagree. Her reaction seems pretty damn genuine to me. It's a reaction to a perceived insult, which doesn't really push me one way or another regarding her alignment, but it's a genuine reaction. What specifically gives you bad vibes?

[Rank]

And giving them a conf town pass to boot.

I hardly think what he did qualifies as a 'conf town pass' in anyone's mind but his. That's pretty obvious. Why are you trying to misrep it otherwise?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sakura Hana

[RadiantCowbells]

Given arsonist is a non normal role, you don't have to worry about that!

For [reasons] I know that while not explicitly normal, arson is not non-normal.

[Sakura Hana]

I hardly think what he did qualifies as a 'conf town pass' in anyone's mind but his. That's pretty obvious. Why are you trying to misrep it otherwise?

What makes you think I meant otherwise?

[Doctor Jekyll]

Ok 148 is something I can agree that comes more from a town perspective. still veeeery far from conftown tho.

It is? How is that the case? Grasping for straws? You feel fake to me.

~Jekyll

Ceph, sakura. Sakura, ceph.

Are you sure it's always this bad? I want to lynch just about every post in her Iso.

-Hyde

[sangres]

Just to clarify, I've been leashed when I was investigated as guilty, but single handedly got a scum lynched so everyone assumed I was SK but was actually third party Arsonist, and everyone kept telling me to NK or they'd lynch me, so I ended up just dousing and igniting day 5 for a win.

It makes me very leery of leashing people.

It sounds like the problem was that you got to day 5 without delivering a night kill. That's poor town management of a leashed claimed SK.

[sangres]

{Cabd's quotestripe hell}

Are you avoiding me?

[RadiantCowbells]

N2 I was supposed to kill someone and the mafia killed him for me.

Then they kept telling me to NK.

[MC Maraca]

other than that, the game has been pretty boring so far

someone wake me up when things get going please

Pedit: Both of them are mara posts, silly

When you SK kill someone tonight, who will be your first choice based on the 5 pages?

you, darling

because you are on to us.

Cows is too, but you are much more likely to build a wagon against us and I can't let that happen

[MC Maraca]

though, guys

where is our vote?

[TheIrishPope]

Mara, say no to drugs

[MC Maraca]

WHERE IS OUR VOTE TIP

[MC Maraca]

I say we lynch TIP today, who wants to hamma?

>isn't voting TIP

Also, lynching TIP is pretty antitown when the hydras will know whether he's scum within five more pages.

Sadly I'm actually townreading this post though.

~Jekyll

so, there's this

and it comes after this

no, that was mara!

I think I wanna kill TIP

Jekyl, what do you think of that post, and why didn't you mention it when you made that post?

We are one of the hydrae that will know "TIP is scum" within the next few pages, yet I have already shown dislike for his play so far.

[Toomai]

I am having a very hard time separating serious posts from joke posts right now, and this is my first Large game, so I have to ask: Are third-parties common enough in Large games that discussing them Day 1 without much justification is helpful?

[MVP]

I love how none of my hydra partners posted after my last post.
Catching up.

-L. J.

[MC Maraca]

I am having a very hard time separating serious posts from joke posts right now, and this is my first Large game, so I have to ask: Are third-parties common enough in Large games that discussing them Day 1 without much justification is helpful?

Serial killers and multiball are both fairly popular in large normal games. 165, which just finished, was 5 scum + SK. 166, also finished, was a scumteam plus a SK. Prior large normal have also featured multiball.

The question was asked for a different reason though, still waiting to see if anyone else sees it.