Open 534 - Killing at the Frat (Day 5)

[Neonizer]

Why do you think nacho is scum sakura?

[Sakura Hana]

Why do you think nacho is scum sakura?

I'm getting weird feelings off him, like he's not even trying to scumhunt like he usually does.

[Ms Marangal]

It's pretty difficult for me to blatantly coast through the game.

Never said you was, just asked someone what they thought you were doing.

It's pretty clear that, at this point you are just as lurky as the guy notsci is pushing

and Starts is Bert

[Ms Marangal]

TOWN:
SFTH (whoever that is)
NS

Marangal

Sakura Hana

mebbe town:
Wake
Bubba
Neonizer

LEFTOVERS:
Marcrell
TCold*
Mario4
BoroPhil
REGINA+

?

[BROseidon]

Wake 88 has requested replacement. Searching for one now.

BoroPhil is also being prodded.

[BROseidon]

EspeciallyTheLies replaces Wake88.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

HI!!! reading now. Be back momentarily.

[Mario4]

Yo yo guys sorry havent been here lately.

[Marcrell]

Why do you think nacho is scum sakura?

I'm getting weird feelings off him, like he's not even trying to scumhunt like he usually does.

Now that I consider my one game with him and what you're saying I see it a little more. Mind it was only one game, but I can sort of see your point.

[startfromtheheart]

that's like a case closed give me my victory now.

I'm actually going to leave you alone now though because I woke up from my nap and thought NACHO, 1460 DAY 1, VIBE.

I won't ruin your vibe.

[startfromtheheart]

Nachopappa? I mean bert... no startfromtheheart!

I get the sense that you know me and also are an alt (or hydra) of someone?

[Bert]

TOWN:
SFTH (whoever that is)
NS
Marangal
Sakura Hana

mebbe town:
Wake
Bubba
Neonizer

LEFTOVERS:
Marcrell
TCold*
Mario4
BoroPhil
REGINA+

Eh. I skimmed over this. I'm not sure what to think, then. I feel like you put up reads so fast, I guess these are just gut. I don't know what I'm trying to say.

Now that I consider my one game with him and what you're saying I see it a little more. Mind it was only one game, but I can sort of see your point.

What do you think of Nacho's play so far in comparison to that game? Trying to see this from your POV

It isn't exactly helpful. It basically means either you don't want to think or you want to see what he votes so you can copy it and get out of the blame if it turns out to be bad.

This kinda bothers me right now. Sheeping other competent players can be helpful if one doesn't know which direction to go

[startfromtheheart]

TOWN:
SFTH (whoever that is)
NS
Marangal
Sakura Hana

mebbe town:
Wake
Bubba
Neonizer

LEFTOVERS:
Marcrell
TCold*
Mario4
BoroPhil
REGINA+

Eh. I skimmed over this. I'm not sure what to think, then. I feel like you put up reads so fast, I guess these are just gut. I don't know what I'm trying to say.

Now that I consider my one game with him and what you're saying I see it a little more. Mind it was only one game, but I can sort of see your point.

What do you think of Nacho's play so far in comparison to that game? Trying to see this from your POV

It isn't exactly helpful. It basically means either you don't want to think or you want to see what he votes so you can copy it and get out of the blame if it turns out to be bad.

This kinda bothers me right now. Sheeping other competent players can be helpful if one doesn't know which direction to go

I had the background skins of both accounts different (one as Sepia, one as something else (Silver)), and I still dun goofed. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Catch up post will happen tomorrow. It is 10:30 and bedtime.

[bubbajack8]

Welcome ETL! Who is Marcwell?

[Neonizer]

Nachopappa? I mean bert... no startfromtheheart!

I get the sense that you know me and also are an alt (or hydra) of someone?

Nope first game on site. Long time lurker

[startfromtheheart]

Ah, I see.

How's this game so far, pace and everything? I'm interested to hear what you think of Nacho's replies to you, and in general his play thus far.

[Neonizer]

Bit slow tbf. Nacho doesn't yet feel like nacho scum, but also not nacho town. He isn't always awesome nacho as town, sometimes he is lazy coasty and arrogant and I have made that mistake before with nacho.

I think theres a good chance both of you are scum buddies though.

[startfromtheheart]

Bit slow tbf.

so you're used to faster games, I gotcha

Nacho doesn't yet feel like nacho scum, but also not nacho town. He isn't always awesome nacho as town, sometimes he is lazy coasty and arrogant and I have made that mistake before with nacho.

He has this beginning-of-the-day style that is transferable to both alignments, where he comes in and sprouts semi-automatic townreads to start the day. It's almost formulaic. I can definitely relate with the lazy, coasty tone that you feel coming from him. That doesn't come with each game. He's choosing to be that way, for whatever reason.

I think theres a good chance both of you are scum buddies though.

I often express statements like yours upon impulse/gut, but anyways I would like to know what makes you think we are a team.

[Neonizer]

Just feels like it could easily be early distancing especially in a game like this.

When you said lets go 1 vs 1. I kind of got it as the joking vibe but sort of semi distancing vibe

[bubbajack8]

?
I think theres a good chance both of you are scum buddies though.

Woah a little quick there.

Why?

Nevermind.

[Dry-fit]

Unvote
Vote: Nacho

No.

Why not?

As I've said I think Nacho is town. Also jumping on him for not contributing at this point is a super easy vote to make and doesn't do much to advance things.

Am I scum for asking Nacho to find someone to sheep?

Very possibly.

I haven't done a whole lot town or scum, so hard to find why a few people thought I was.

How can you be so sure?

Hey startfromtheheart why not vote REGINA with me? It's fun.

[notscience]

I'm liking Dry-fit for town.

[Marcrell]

Now that I consider my one game with him and what you're saying I see it a little more. Mind it was only one game, but I can sort of see your point.

What do you think of Nacho's play so far in comparison to that game? Trying to see this from your POV

It isn't exactly helpful. It basically means either you don't want to think or you want to see what he votes so you can copy it and get out of the blame if it turns out to be bad.

This kinda bothers me right now. Sheeping other competent players can be helpful if one doesn't know which direction to go

Nacho's play in comparison... He's a little less talkative. He gave reasons for people and suspected people. He doesn't really seem to be doing much now. Of course he was the IC in that game so I guess he was probably expecting to do a little more work but he just seems not to be trying as much, as Sakura said.
You can sheep other competent players. But demanding they give you a vote to sheep then voting them because they don't is a bit much. I'm sure there are other competent players in this game as well that they could sheep if they didn't have an idea.

Welcome ETL! Who is Marcrell?

I am a relatively new player who has played two games on the site before and may be a bit overconfident in how much I think I know about the game. I'm not sure.

[Sakura Hana]

What I'd expect from town Nacho?
somehting like this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=28682
or this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=28769
or this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=30234