A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Tierce]

VOTE: quadz

No defense, no questions. Clearly caught scum here.

Bahahahaha because you are doing a lot of defense of the votes coming to you and you sure are asking why AGar is voting you.

Nice bus there.

[Titus]

Tierce, I am. I find scumhunting is the best defense.

[Titus]

I also have a card in my back pocket I am hoping not to use until lylo/mylo.

[Tammy]

The claim doesn't make elle obvtown.

[Tammy]

I'm taking that as a scum claim

You're a heartbreaker, lady Tammy.

Tierce is Town. Tierce is waiting eagerly to see where this leads, though!

Sorry, extreme stress and homesickness make Tammy a grumpy Lady.

[quadz08]

I'm serious, I have no

fucking

clue what AGar is talking about in his post. I'm absolutely fucking lost.

[Titus]

The claim doesn't make elle obvtown.

Context? Elle's statements appear to be suicidal as scum no? I always suppose smart players. If you see a deliberately dumb player, probably scum. Dumb scum doesn't seem like them.

[Tammy]

I'm serious, I have no

fucking

clue what AGar is talking about in his post. I'm absolutely fucking lost.

It *looks* like he's saying if Tierce wasn't bp last night so wasn't the reason for the missing kill, then there's some other reason and that other reason leads him to believe that Titus is scum.

[The Alchemist]

VOTE: quadz

No defense, no questions. Clearly caught scum here.

[Tierce]

The claim doesn't make elle obvtown.

The timing does, though. Until yesterday I thought this was most likely a scum ability, but as scum she had no reason to claim without having also accused me of lying through my teeth, since I claimed my BP was an activated ability and all. She was trying to keep me alive.

[Tammy]

Does your target know that you roleblocked em?

i.e. Would your target be notified that they were roleblocked?

Not sure - doesn't say.
But just realized it wouldn't have affected Tierce on N1. Just every night after.

If you just realized that it wouldn't have affect Tierce on N1, why didn't the missing night one kill bother you? Why did you start the day voting for Zdenek? On day three you were convinced Spyrex was scum and you danced the the thread with a sign. You spent day one arguing with Thor and pushing his lynch. But you were about as convinced as one could get that Tierce was scum on day one and you don't interact with her at all? You don't vote her? You don't question her? You just nothing? Come now.

If you were just totally convinced that Tierce was scum day one, how come Post 447 is the only mention of Tierce before Post 2557 when you asked Nacho why Tierce wasn't in the lynch order after he said Tammy/Tierce are strong scum reads. Other than that the next time you mention her is when you start asking us if Tierce is town.

[Tammy]

The claim doesn't make elle obvtown.

The timing does, though. Until yesterday I thought this was most likely a scum ability, but as scum she had no reason to claim without having also accused me of lying through my teeth, since I claimed my BP was an activated ability and all. She was trying to keep me alive.

Or she was trying to keep herself alive as she saw her wagon rising.

[Titus]

Tammy, this seems like something both Elle and Tierce have knowledge of together. Do you think hey'd be scum together? If not, neither is scum.

[Tammy]

Oh no, I believe she's a roleblocker. I just don't believe she's a town roleblocker.

[Titus]

So you'd take Tierce as scum as well then? If not, how could elle be scum and Tierce not?

[Tammy]

That question doesn't even make sense.

[The Alchemist]

That question doesn't even make sense.

Welcome to Titus.

[Tammy]

I'd love for the bolded to be a bannable offence for breaking one of the site rules, you've done it twice now, but I doubt it considering who you're in league with.

Bugger off. Not only are accusations of favoritism ridiculous, but general activity patterns are not ban material and list mods pointedly do not take part in infraction discussions from games they're in.

I'm just not reading Safety Dance's posts because I'm trying to get back some of my sanity and don't want the headache. But you can absolutely mention that someone is being active in one game and not being active in another. My argument was one based on activity; the day I start comparing your posts in one game in another is the day you can argue that I'm breaking the rules because that would be.

[Titus]

What doesn't make sense? To me it is at least strongly suggestive elle and Tierce are of the same alignment. Therefore anyone who is suggesting one as scum is also suggesting the other unless that link I am seeing is somehow deficienr.

[Cephrir]

Suppose: elle is scum roleblocker.
Suppose: Tierce is town.
Suppose: elle has blocked Tierce.

What's the problem with this?

[Titus]

There's a hell of a lot more coordination and missing premises that actually exist IMO. The premises, if those were all that exist are valid. They are not sound.


Valid = if the premises are true, then the conclusion must be.
Sound = premises are true plus a valid arg.

[The Alchemist]

There's a hell of a lot more coordination and missing premises that actually exist IMO. The premises, if those were all that exist are valid. They are not sound.


Valid = if the premises are true, then the conclusion must be.
Sound = premises are true plus a valid arg.

[Titus]

Wow... No one really gets basic philopshy. Can I at least get a question here?

[Cephrir]

What's the problem with this?

^Try that question, because you didn't answer it. You told me something is potentially unsound but not what or why.

[Titus]

Because Elle and Tierce would still be death tunnelling each other.

BP n1 no deaths

N3 no deaths

Instead of FoSing each other, they present their claims in near unison. I cannot buy them as separate factions.

The simpler conclusion is the scums sent Tierce n1 and N3 and was roleblocked thus no kill.