A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Titus]

Elle skips that entirely though... Why?

[Cephrir]

Who claims to have blocked their scumbuddy on a night when there was no kill? And then doesn't bus them?

I think "they're not scum together" is the only thing I *am* getting out of this.

[Titus]

Hence my confusion... That should have occurred to Elle and why I do not understand their gambit. Why are they so linked when the obvious conclusion seems to bus? Worried about an investigative PR? Dunno but this doesn't add up.

[Tierce]

...we can't bus because we're not scum together. And if I had been roleblocked performing a kill, why the hell is elle claiming it instead of the Town roleblocker who is responsible for it?

[Cephrir]

Maybe because it wouldn't be bussing, because they're not scumbuddies? o.O

Or maybe, hypothetically, elle is deliberately linking herself to a townie, though that's kind of a stretch.

P-edit: yeah that too

[Titus]

Confused...

Elle is claiming she has roleblocked you three nights. Two nights no death. As either alignment she should be gunning for you... Unless you are on the same side. Given Elle's actions are suicidal as scum, I have you both as town. That could be elle's wifom but I doubt it.

[Titus]

Now, if that isn't clear, grab a vodka while I nap. I have had a bad flu bug.

[Tierce]

Titus. Imagine for a moment that elle and I are both Town. What does not add up?

You keep saying that there's something that doesn't work with both of us Town. What is it?

First Night no death probably because scum shot me. Rather high profile player in this playerlist, I have a decent reputation as Town, and I'm really tough to mislynch. Third Night no death because of something else (hi!). Me being essentially vanilla from D2 onwards is irrelevant to my abilities as the main one was the BP soak that I... was apparently crumbing on D1 in case I was roleblocked? Silly notion.

There wasn't any significant pressure on her to claim, she has been asking people for a while, and she's willing to sacrifice herself. That's a Town roleblocker who messed up, not a scum blocker that need never claim have targeted a really Town target, Tammy. Anything would have sounded less scummy by default than claiming her actual action, Tammy. Remember Konowa and blocking Empire in #YOLOville?

[Tierce]

Also how about voting the person who was actually blocked last Night?~

[Cephrir]

There wasn't any significant pressure on her to claim, she has been asking people for a while,

Yes.

and she's willing to sacrifice herself.

No.

But it's good enough for me.

Also how about voting the person who was actually blocked last Night?~

I'm gonna need to actually hear that, because what we have right now is something that could easily turn into "lol nah I meant something else".

[Titus]

If elle and you are both town, then elle should be voting you because you were blocked. Yet, her claim is suicidal if scum. I am leaning town, so I am not voting either of you.

Someone else was blocked besides you?

I frankly don't get any of the behaviors here and none of the usual routines are establishing themselves and its driving me nuts. I am trying to figure this out but I feel like far too much is being withheld (note do not say whatever name is a bad guy nm Tierce do withhold that(.

[Titus]

I do not vote someone who I am leaning twn on especially while confused. That is prime stock for leading a mislynch.

[Titus]

I am off now finally. Any questions after this point will be answered later.

[The Alchemist]

I do not vote someone who I am leaning twn on especially while confused. That is prime stock for leading a mislynch.

God forfend you be seen leading a mislynch, right?

More votes on this, pleasekthx.

[Tierce]

The claim doesn't make elle obvtown.

The timing does, though. Until yesterday I thought this was most likely a scum ability, but as scum she had no reason to claim without having also accused me of lying through my teeth, since I claimed my BP was an activated ability and all. She was trying to keep me alive.

Or she was trying to keep herself alive as she saw her wagon rising.

...two votes.

...out of eleven.

She was trembling with horror.

Can you blame her for thinking I was scum after the Thor lynch? Look at the context. No, she did not come after me D2, but was paying attention to see if that wagon would have pull with that question to Nacho. And then she started to Townread me and have all that lovely Ygritte internal conflict.

It does make sense from a Town perspective.

[Tierce]

@Alfred - In your 2160 reads, you have Zdenek up there in what looks like a varying degree of towny pile. Help me out and give me some insight into that one. My list looks fairly similar (at least name wise) with Z as the one exception.

My lynch pile looks something like: zdenek/amrun/ooba/kanye - though it's also a 'would like more from' pile.

And since almost everyone on the lynch is one of my townreads, with I think the one exception already named:

VOTE: Amrun

I believe this is

L-2

?

I'm conflicted on the slot - I think there was a point where I was leaning town due to some of their responses but it's been covered up under all the excuses ever. Content or claim, imo.

Can you explain why I'm not on this post, elle?

[Shadoweh]

True Fax I wanted to pick Ygritte because she was really cool on the TV show, but I didn't recognize who she was on the wiki cause I didn't know her name and her wiki picture is so horrible it changed my mind right back.

The moral of this story is Tierce should pretend we got married and tell me who I should kill tonight.

[Tierce]

{SpyreX, Zdenek, The Alchemist, AGar, Goat on a Raft, Garruk Relentless}

this is pretty much my kill group in order

wheres tammy in this?

Tierce/Tammy are very strong scumreads.

and/or Tierce?

Wait, this is after you started Townreading me.

Please explain your train of thought on me, elle.

[Tierce]

True Fax I wanted to pick Ygritte because she was really cool on the TV show, but I didn't recognize who she was on the wiki cause I didn't know her name and her wiki picture is so horrible it changed my mind right back.

The moral of this story is Tierce should pretend we got married and tell me who I should kill tonight.

Mina. She's evil.

[Shadoweh]

I'm not going to kill myself :<

[Tierce]

Gee. So demanding.

Then Faradoroshi!

[Shadoweh]

>:< I can't kill Eddard Stark he's already DEAD
Come oooon pick someone who isn't immune to my feminine wiles

[Goat on a Raft]

That was a weird fucking catch-up. On the plus side: This post is infused with the combined reads of both heads!

Elle's claim makes her likely town, which is infuriating but them's the breaks. We're pretty mad at her for permablocking Tierce but whatever. We'll try to move on.

Quadz's recent attitude looks disappointly like what we'd expect from scum who's kind of been found out and is hoping that the confusion around SafetyDance (which is solved with the simple answer of 'he used the wrong word somewhere', which is not scum-exclusive behaviour) will buy him another day before his inevitable demise. He probably has to go.

Maybe this head missed it in reading a bunch of pages at once but, Agar, why does Titus have to go before quadz? Really not seeing that at all as an obvious priority. That said, the other head thinks Titus is scum, so he's in our 'acceptable lynch' pile. Joining him and quadz there are Alfred, Messiah and Shadoweh in no particular order (mainly for POE), but quadz is pretty obviously a much bigger priority than them.

UNVOTE: elleheathen
VOTE: quadz

[Garruk Relentless]

Elle skips that entirely though... Why?

I want a VC but am gonna join the quadz wagon.

[Garruk Relentless]

I dunno how that quote got there.