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Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:38 pm

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^V wrote:You realise Quilford's only made like half a dozen posts, right?
oh yeah, i've been meaning to ask about that. quilford is active as fuck elsewhere on site, why is he a non-presence in this game?
^V wrote:but is that because of the scum lynch or Tammy's death?
you think people are still in mourning over the loss of pyro or something? because i don't think pyro was that big a factor in terms of the activity in this game, so pyro's death shouldn't be why everyone is suddenly apathetic.
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Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:40 pm

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In post 2439, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I'm gonna meta-check Voided.
How about you look at some other people? I highly doubt anything you'll find will change your mind on Voided.
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Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:41 pm

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maybe active as fuck is an exaggeration, but i don't see why you guys are having such a hard time conversing or why he's been a non-presence
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Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:42 pm

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In post 2442, Lost Butterfly wrote:I think I've been having a bit of town apathy lately. The game has sort of stalled while we were waiting for everyone to claim who they'd transferred money to, and the automatic full efficiency bonus means there's no time pressure to do anything for the next week. I should really rectify that.
So who are we still waiting on?
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Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:48 pm

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In post 2450, zMuffinMan wrote:
^V wrote:You realise Quilford's only made like half a dozen posts, right?
oh yeah, i've been meaning to ask about that. quilford is active as fuck elsewhere on site, why is he a non-presence in this game?
I'm not really that sure myself. Every time we manage to catch each other on aim, he's always apologising.

I don't think he's that active elsewhere, though? I've seen him post in a few mish mash games and maybe a bit in GD, but that's about it. I personally think he's having trouble catching up and doesn't want to admit it.
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Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:49 pm

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In post 2450, zMuffinMan wrote:
^V wrote:but is that because of the scum lynch or Tammy's death?
you think people are still in mourning over the loss of pyro or something? because i don't think pyro was that big a factor in terms of the activity in this game, so pyro's death shouldn't be why everyone is suddenly apathetic.
Pyro has the fourth most posts in the thread, I think that's a pretty major contribution.
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Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:13 pm

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Holidays.

Gonna have to wait for me to catch up later.
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Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:37 pm

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I GOT A 1.25 LITER DR. PEPPER THAT SAYS I CATCH UP TONIGHT!!!
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Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:44 pm

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Prod dodge, catching up in here after sleep.
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Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:29 pm

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DAY 2 STUFFS

In post 1851, zMuffinMan wrote:
nero wrote:
nero wrote:H/o may have found Tammy scum.
even if this was a good reason to suspect pyro, 1632 is 12 pages after 1328...
You know that 1328 had like absolutely nothing to do with that right?
In post 1949, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:So Klick requested replacement, cancelled his request, and then flaked? What a
dick
. It probably does mean he's town after all, but seriously that is low.
Can you explain why you think this makes that slot town?

In post 1967, Lost Butterfly wrote: Um, Nero, assuming I didn't miss it, I don't suppose you could answer the thing about Love Potion/Vote Freezer? Or explain whatever happened to Harakiri/why you still suspect them?
The stuff with Harakiri is ongoing games stuff so I can't get into that right now.

I think Love Potion benefits town 'cause it could possibly make a player harder to mislynch. VF is in the same vein and a scummer couldn't move their vote around.

In post 1983, Lost Butterfly wrote:his whole MHORK IS A LIAR RAWR thing didn't make much sense, since it's not like mhork's post was trying to say it was scummy - it was just an observation
Yeah...no.

I really don't believe he was making an observation like at all. For the life of me I can't see how you, muffin and Voided think that.

In post 2045, Lost Butterfly wrote:If you vote nero i won't kidnap your cat!
look! An attempt to derail the DP lynch.


Tags are broken but too tired to fix sorry.

Followed the plan; rolled 3.
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Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:34 pm

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In post 2459, Nero Cain wrote:look! An attempt to derail the DP lynch.
:?:
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Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:35 pm

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Actually that whole post deserves an !
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Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:39 pm

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In post 1841, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1646, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 1600, Nero Cain wrote:@ Bald, you really think
Morph
Mhork would imply that I'm lurking scum then say that he didn't...as town?
Lurking isn't a scumtell for me.

Atm, I'm not sure what to make of you. Some posts I don't like, and some I do.
This says nothing about you lurking.....

Try again please.
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Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:39 pm

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In post 2461, Lost Butterfly wrote:Actually that whole post deserves an !
:facepalm:
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Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:41 pm

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Hey Pyro,

I think Cabd and I are just about at a point to talk about revising our reads if you'd like to compare notes. Would you like us to go first?

we're sorry we got off to such a bad start with you. it was a wasted opportunity.
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Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:21 pm

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^V wrote:Pyro has the fourth most posts in the thread, I think that's a pretty major contribution.
heh. i didn't even realise that. still doesn't really explain the huge drop in activity in this game, though. (like, i went to sleep wednesday night and woke up to see 10 new posts, went to work and came home to another 10 new posts, same thing friday morning/night, so i dunno)
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Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:29 pm

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Firstly, I've talked with Faraday, and due to some RL distractions,
Faraday will be indefinitely V/LA for a while.
I may talk to him now and then about the game, but in the thread at least, it'll be all Mina, all the time.

I'd started a post breaking down the Pepper wagon, but then something distracted me all evening, so I'll save actual substantial stuff for tomorrow. Random thoughts:

-Are we continuing with the bidding claim? In retrospect, I'm not sure it's the best idea.

-Was debating a switch to Kingdom Aces, but I kind of vaguely like some of her more recent catch-up posts. Given that Nero could have claimed before his V/LA, his lengthy (particularly since was also like pulling teeth for me to get advertisement claims out of him) He also comes across as though he's given up today.

-Not as sure that upside down are town as I was yesterday. From my knowledge of Quilford, he doesn't like being scum and flaked on the Pandora scum-hydra in ADwD (although granted, he was fairly active on D1 in that game).

-Would like to write Garuda off as town, but having reservations. For one thing (yes, pot calling the kettle black here, and I know Empire was sick), I dislike their habit of going quiet for long periods at a time. Unlike Faraday, I actually got a favourable impression from Nacho's effort-posting spree, because he looked like he was trying to solve the game. But I felt as though some of the stuff they "liked" was shallow. For example, Seanald's point that "scum like posting when something big happens" (actually, the opposite tends to be more true on average) was silly, and what was worse was the way it was framed came off as though he was validating that as a reason to suspect us. Also, IIRC, some of the positions of reads on their lists didn't seem to quite follow from all the positive things they said in the rereads. I'm focusing on the us stuff because I'm a narcissist, my body thinks it's 5:30 AM, and it's what sticks out in my mind in such a huge thread, but I didn't like that he'd basically called most of our posts super-town but then moved us a tier lower for a couple of throwaway sentences. (I'll find examples to do with other people another day.) Finally, they'd have been a great N1 kill. Either way, he can only be RH scum.

-I've been warming up to pieguyn lately, despite disagreeing with much of what he says (was very confused. That said, random questions since I reread him.

1) So you think Mhork is fakeclaiming his connection with Pyro...but just coincidentally guessed the secret information morph had?

2)
In post 1434, pieguyn wrote:assuming multiball
What led you to make this assumption when you did?

3) From the same post as 2:
from LB seems genuine[/quote]
What exactly gave you a genuine impression about that post (given that most of the game voted us for it because it was "fake", and everything in it actually WAS a complete lie)?
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Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:34 pm

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EBWOP: the "was confused" was supposed to be by his bashing the people on the Nero wagon. On the contrary, I'm reasonably comfortable with the people on the wagon, except maybe Voided.

Actually, so this isn't buried in that massive wall I didn't even proofread because sleeeeeeeeeeeeep:

Faraday will be indefinitely V/LA from this game.
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Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:36 pm

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(oh, and I forgot to say that even Voided isn't even a real scumread so much as a PoE null-maybe-town-I don't know-whatever-I need sleep person. And I don't even feel like editing this to make any sense)
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Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:37 pm

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*sigh*

EBWOP:
Given that Nero could have claimed before his V/LA, his lengthy
I wanted to say it felt like he was stalling his claim. But that's hard to do using English words, apparently.
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Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:40 pm

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1. I was thinking Mhork did have a connection with Pyro, answered the questions, and then made up everything after the questions. I was tired as shit when I wrote that and looking back I admit it's really stupid.

2. I was keeping up with the thread for like 10 pages when the game started and then got lazy and stopped, and I was pretty sure people were saying it was multiball. also it's pretty obvious when the example mafia pm says "left hand" that there should be a "right hand" associated with it IMO

3. I liked how you just came out and basically said "well shit why would we bid $100 when we can bid $80 instead". looking back on it though since that was a gambit my genuineness radar is probably off @_@
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Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:54 pm

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In post 2192, pieguyn wrote:
given it's a large game, scum lynches this early in the game most likely will involve bussing. tho keep in mind there's only 2 other people on his team (or mb 3)
now that you mention it, thinking about it from a money standpoint bussing might not be such a good idea. not sure atm >_<
I don't get it. Why would scum not bus if their buddy was for sure going down?

I also agree that that Sean-Voided is the most likely bussin' area.
In post 2220, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2210, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 2192, pieguyn wrote:
given it's a large game, scum lynches this early in the game most likely will involve bussing. tho keep in mind there's only 2 other people on his team (or mb 3)
now that you mention it, thinking about it from a money standpoint bussing might not be such a good idea. not sure atm >_<
It seems more likely that right-scum were on it.

There may be one leftie who was stuck with the bus job, but it seems more like the third (or other two) would've distanced or not been on it.

That makes mhork worse, imo. Sure, using medium on tammy is a town-looking move, but I really don't like his half-hearted support of the wagon and the fact that he never actually voted DP despite saying he agreed with it and should vote him.
He claimed to use it on Pyro, and you seem to believe him, but if you think he's scum, do you think he
ACTUALLY
mediumed Tammy when he could/would medium DrPepper?
Why would scum medium dead scum?
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Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:54 pm

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In post 2192, pieguyn wrote:
given it's a large game, scum lynches this early in the game most likely will involve bussing. tho keep in mind there's only 2 other people on his team (or mb 3)
now that you mention it, thinking about it from a money standpoint bussing might not be such a good idea. not sure atm >_<
I don't get it. Why would scum not bus if their buddy was for sure going down?

I also agree that that Sean-Voided is the most likely bussin' area.
In post 2220, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 2210, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 2192, pieguyn wrote:
given it's a large game, scum lynches this early in the game most likely will involve bussing. tho keep in mind there's only 2 other people on his team (or mb 3)
now that you mention it, thinking about it from a money standpoint bussing might not be such a good idea. not sure atm >_<
It seems more likely that right-scum were on it.

There may be one leftie who was stuck with the bus job, but it seems more like the third (or other two) would've distanced or not been on it.

That makes mhork worse, imo. Sure, using medium on tammy is a town-looking move, but I really don't like his half-hearted support of the wagon and the fact that he never actually voted DP despite saying he agreed with it and should vote him.
He claimed to use it on Pyro, and you seem to believe him, but if you think he's scum, do you think he
ACTUALLY
mediumed Tammy when he could/would medium DrPepper?
Why would scum medium dead scum?
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Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:02 am

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In post 2471, Nero Cain wrote:I don't get it. Why would scum not bus if their buddy was for sure going down?
1. that gives 0 towncred if he's "for sure" going down

2.
In post 1, Magua wrote:Hello, XXX!

The free market is fine, but it’s so...inefficient. A shame, really, but from that insight you quickly realized that with the help of a few others who shared your views that this is a turning point, a time of opportunity. Control of the marketplace can lead to all of your dreams coming true; given such a reward, it’s obvious that you’ll do anything to eliminate the competition -- permanently.

You are a
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Nest Egg:
You start the game with [REDACTED].
Wage:
At the end of every Day, you will receive [REDACTED].
Efficiency Bonus:
You do not receive an efficiency bonus.
Mafia Bonus:
At the end of every Day, [REDACTED].
mafia receives wages. someone said somewhere mafia could pool their money for bids. thus, the less mafia are alive, the less money they get, putting a disadvantage on bussing.
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Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 12:06 am

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nero. current reads.
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