Mini 1515: Touhou Imperishable Night (Game Over)

[morph the cat]

Nothing is proven until the mod says so. Also, I've wiggled out of pressure by "confirming myself town" before plenty of times.

[thezmon221]

@pie: Pretty much everyone in this game is a pretty good player. Some of us have played longer than others and have more experience, but I don’t really see anyone who stands out as a “best” player in the crop.

his attack on varsoon seemed fine at first, but it turned out it wasn't really an attack? however, now that I think about it again, I kind of think he has a valid idea in alerting Varsoon to zmuffin, but then I'm still not too sure his point in zmuffin was valid in the first place. if he's not scum, there's probably scum "flow-going" by saying his attacks were bad, since I can understand what he might be going for here.

The 180-190 range is around where the VvWayne argument takes place. Basically, Varsoon called you scum, and then wayne called Varsoon scum for the same reason Varsoon called you scum, even though the way the two of you played out the argument was different. Then, the two got into a brief argument about diction, which I found extremely retarded.

And yeah, it’s probably a safe assumption that scum can go with a popular opinion. The trick is finding out who is doing so, hence bussing.

@pie: I don’t remember you mentioning muffin or Varsoon independently, however. Can you tell me what you think of them? I suggest reading through your argument with him, but try taking a different angle at it (not necessarily that other people are saying TvT), because when people get into heated debates with others, and get an indication of scum early on, it’s common for them to succumb to conf bias (which leads to these TvT arguments), so retrospect reading helps.

[morph the cat]

cash cabd was a mini normal game moderated by Cabd. The players in this game who played that one are: Nacho (Rebel without a Pulse hydra), zmuffinman (Rail Tracer hydra), GiF and Ffery (Sound of Silence hydra). All of those players played solid but not perfect games in cash cabd.

I'm not really sure what you heard about that game, but whatever reputation was earned was shared rep for the most part.

[waynegg]

So yeah, how about we get back to the game instead taking up teaching roles and meta talk.

[waynegg]

I'm wondering why you're questioning someone who can confirm himself as town though 0.0

Unless you're IC, the only way to do this is to die.

[thezmon221]

I'm wondering why you're questioning someone who can confirm himself as town though 0.0

Unless you're IC, the only way to do this is to die.

Or a tree stump.

So yeah, how about we get back to the game instead taking up teaching roles and meta talk.

I don't know if you've noticed, but:

1. Meta can help a read when used correctly (though I prefer not to use it in very large doses).
2. I've been asking questions of pie regarding reads and recent circumstances. It just so happened that on the side of that was talk about experience between the two of us, and pie and Cabd. So unless YOU have something you want to say, go along your not-so-cheery way.

kkthxbai. I have nothing for you right now.

[waynegg]

Meta...schmeta. I've seen it used just as many times to screw up games as to help them. Learning and applying real investigative skillz is the way to go. Using something that can be so easily manipulated to provide the results you want it to provide is fairly flimsy. Particularly when peepz go so far as to say things like player x is acting like player y from game A and the apply those actions to their actions in game B which they're playing. Which in itself ignores they are two completelyeffinglydifferent people with two completelyeffinglydifferent mind sets in a game with a completelyeffinglydifferent setup and mod.

Real in game investigative skillz>meta schtick by far

[waynegg]

That's not very nice weenie dog! I have something for you...

13. zMuffinMan
2. Ghostly Penguin (Ghostlin + penguin_alien)
10. thezmon221

Is there another BFF?

[thezmon221]

Meta...schmeta. I've seen it used just as many times to screw up games as to help them. Learning and applying real investigative skillz is the way to go. Using something that can be so easily manipulated to provide the results you want it to provide is fairly flimsy. Particularly when peepz go so far as to say things like player x is acting like player y from game A and the apply those actions to their actions in game B which they're playing. Which in itself ignores they are two completelyeffinglydifferent people with two completelyeffinglydifferent mind sets in a game with a completelyeffinglydifferent setup and mod.

Real in game investigative skillz>meta schtick by far

Keywords here: "used properly." Maybe you should try reading a book. It might help your reading comprehension.

That's not very nice weenie dog! I have something for you...

13. zMuffinMan
2. Ghostly Penguin (Ghostlin + penguin_alien)
10. thezmon221

Is there another BFF?

Yes, you also forgot:

BRO
Mastin
Morph the Cat
Pie
Psychlone
Varsoon
Mac

That’s called the “town” in some mafia games.

[thezmon221]

Keywords here: "used correctly." Maybe you should try reading a book. It might help your reading comprehension.

This is what I get for not reviewing my posts.

[waynegg]

Oops, forgot to post intended post #2:

Pie/V is TvT.

{ BRO, PA/Ghost, mastin, morph, pie, psych, V}
{Wayne, newearth}
{Mac, Mafia, Muffin}

Vast majority of my reads are gut/feel reads. Only probably 3-4 are legit backed with evidence.

Second slot is scum.

[waynegg]

Yup

[waynegg]

I wouldn't be surprised if you had at least some meta on me, considering we've played a few times together.

However, I don't really see what you're referring to. Are you looking for me to check out a specific game other than Paradox? In Paradox (which you mentioned), I noticed that in his first 203 posts he DID have more substance about him, but the game had far more substance in it than this game did when SSK posted. There was more to comment on.

I'll keep it in the back of my mind, though.

I just had a derp moment and now realized what that quote was. Feel free to disregard my post, though it does still hold true somewhat.

Some people sure do care a lot what they look like

No, I'm just trying to fathom why you would do such a thing.

Do you really want attention that much?

And some don't...

[zMuffinMan]

That’s called the “town” in some mafia games.

i'm a town read now? when did that happen?

[zMuffinMan]

13. zMuffinMan
2. Ghostly Penguin (Ghostlin + penguin_alien)
10. thezmon221

Is there another BFF?

why is ghost scum?

I'm not really sure what you heard about that game, but whatever reputation was earned was shared rep for the most part.

he's referring to [REDACTED] fwiw

[waynegg]

Because 379

[zMuffinMan]

so is morph a town read now or just not a scum read?

[waynegg]

When were they ever a scum read?

[zMuffinMan]

answer the question

[zMuffinMan]

Ok, so igmeou. Better?

and what did this mean if it didn't mean you were at least considering them as scum?

[waynegg]

Sorry, you tiger now

[waynegg]

Ok, so igmeou. Better?

and what did this mean if it didn't mean you were at least considering them as scum?

It means you're liking misrepping conversations, me thinks.

[zMuffinMan]

ur a vry good player

[zMuffinMan]

what did i misrep about that conversation? that quote and the next suggest you were thinking morph scum there, no?

are they a town read of yours now?

[waynegg]

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