Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Nero Cain]

STOP. FUCKING. RUSHING. ME.

[Nero Cain]

Okay, Seanald is looking absolutely terrible with continually going back and forth about how much he's read, along with

advertising an incredibly antitown ability.

ZD bought anti-town abilities...so why do you think this is scummy?

meh, been busy with work and holliday stuffs so I'l be posting here tomorrow.

explain

it was Halloween.

partially because someone like Nero's been scummier than you.

and what have I done thats's so so scummy?

I find Garuda's comments on Dr. Pepper in 1306 strange. At this point he seemed not all that much different from Guille/Bankai, but he specifically commented about DP and none of the other near lurkers.

So its a scum read?

[Nero Cain]

*sigh*

EBWOP:

Given that Nero could have claimed before his V/LA, his lengthy

I wanted to say it felt like he was stalling his claim. But that's hard to do using English words, apparently.

When?




So my reads haven't really changed. Still think there's scum in Voided, Muffin, Mhork.

I really resent Fery comparing me to low hanging fruit but I guess in a way its a fair comparison 'cause I'm a "hard to read" player as most folks scum read me until they have a few games with me under their belt so its EZ for scum to attack and tunnel on me. For example, in Walking Dead mafia Thor tunneled the Nero/MS hydra with basically no reason and he skated by for several days. In my last game with Mhork he attacked me and nearly got me mislynched so if Mhork was scum why would he not do the same thing? His reason for mediuming Tammy seem weird to me. Out of those 6 folks like Morph and PA seemed to be getting town read more so I still don't really understand why he thought Tammy was more likely to be nightkilled.

I think Muffin is being more hostile than usual and him rushing me for reads when I was still reading is really frustratingly scummy. I feel like his "scum read" is insincere and he's just really trying to rile me up.

Much like Muffin, Voided rushing Bald's VCA is pretty scummy and he's been pretty wagon happy. I also don't really see the point in him asking KA if he had the same abilities that ZD had but not really going anywhere with that.


and then I have a shit ton of nulls.


Sean
LB
molla
Harakiri
KA
baldeagle
Jason

After football tomorrow I need to take a look at the DP wagon.

But yeah, the wagon on me is retarded and scum lead. All the reasons for voting me are bupkis and I'm nothing but a "hey he's lurking, lets lynch it!!!" lynch. I am sorry that I've not been around much lately but getting rid of a town voice and a town vote is positively stupid (from a town POV anyways)

[zMuffinMan]

i don't think i was rushing you for reads. you posted a catchup wall, i assumed you were done, i asked you a question, you ignored it.

what about my scum read on you do you think is insincere?

plus i'm not, and i don't think anybody else apart from... maybe mhork? (dunno if there's anyone else) is voting you because of "lurking". i did note you have been lurking, but really, it has nothing to do with why i think you're scum.

[zMuffinMan]

it is also kind of funny that you think three of the four people voting you are scum, and the fourth is a null read for you.

who are you going to vote today, nero?

[KingdomAces]

The absolute best thing that can happen to incredibly antitown abilities is for them to get removed from the game due to lack of advertising. That way scum has absolutely no chance to get them, so town is free to ignore any negative consequences it might cause. If it comes up anyway, then the only way to keep it out of scum's hands is getting it ourselves. There is a massive difference between advertising something to ensure that it gets in the game in the first place, and buying an ability when it's already up for auction.

And yes, I have a leaning-scum read on Garuda.

[Magua]

Vote Count 3.7

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Nero Cain (5): Lost Butterfly, zMuffinMan, VoidedMafia, Lord Mhork, Harakiri
VoidedMafia (2): 1baldeagle1, BBmolla
Seanald (2): ProHawk, pieguyn
KingdomAces (1): Garuda

Not Voting (8): PeregrineV, Nero Cain, Seanald, morph the cat, Ghostly Penguin, uʍop ǝpısdn, KingdomAces, JacobSavage

Deadline for Day 3 is Tuesday, November 12th, at 3:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-11-12 15:00:00)

[Nero Cain]

i don't think i was rushing you for reads. you posted a catchup wall,

i assumed you were done

, i asked you a question, you ignored it.

You assumed I was done catching up after finishing read day 2 stuff?



And then I continue to read and post about day 3 and you auto get "he's ignoring me/he's scum."

what about my scum read on you do you think is insincere?

The whole "omg u r sew stupid [if you thing Mhork was implying you were lurking scum] for thinking that">>"ok well yeah, he implied that and didn't know what he was saying." seemed rather forced to me.

The above is also really horrible.

i did note you have been lurking, but really, it has nothing to do with why i think you're scum.

Its not lurking if I'm not here. Tough my point was that scum love safe/inactive/*lurker votes. I'm that.

*Yes I don't know what else to call it.

[Nero Cain]

it is also kind of funny that you think three of the four people voting you are scum, and the fourth is a null read for you.

who are you going to vote today, nero?

Hence the line "there's scum in". I don't think its impossible, somewhat improbable maybe. I deffs don't think all 3 of you are town. I also have downgraded Harakiri to null who is also voting me. LB's reasoning is terrible. He's pretty much just sheeping the rest of the bad logic used to vote me with and his "Nero had a chance to claim his actions" is so fucking stupid. I also think scum are a lil' less likely to start a bandwagon and I've explained Harakiri so w/e.

I would LOOOOVVVE a Mhork lynch but that's prob not gonna happen in the near future so unless I find a smoking gun when I look at DP stuffs then my vote is going on Voided.

[Voidedmafia]

Anyway, why were you getting so angry at ProHawk when you voted him earlier in the post. If you thought he was scum, wouldn't you just explain how bad his posts were, and use that to add to your case? The only reason to get angry at someone for supposedly making really stupid statements was if you thought they were misguided town.

My anger was based on information, not really game-relevant things. We were pretty much talking about the pros and cons of speedlynching someone at the deadline, something which we are opposed at.

The second part I was getting annoyed because he was saying there was no evidence on Hermy when we'd already clearly put things against her.

anger at players isn't always because you think they're town, yknow. I think more than 50% of the time I've yelled at people on MS is due to non game-related things.

I don't think it's worth bothering to check though, since it's posted in the OP that the factions are right-hand and left-hand. It would be suicidal to make that sort of crumb.

The point would be to let opposite scum know who to neighborize and such, I believe. The fact that the teams are identified at the start doesn't necessarily invalidate the idea.

Pretty sure he's V/LA at the momment...

Where are YOU at, anyways?

What? What better explanation is there for baldeagle's VCA than "confirmation bias"?

I guess I was expecting you to explain why you thought it was confbias.

But yeah, it's probably even slower today, but is that because of the scum lynch or Tammy's death?

Could really be both.

I'm gonna meta-check Voided.

And how exactly is this going to help you any more than your VCA did? What in the world are you even gonna meta-check for?

I really don't believe he was making an observation like at all. For the life of me I can't see how you, muffin and Voided think that.

That's just how I read it, really.

look! An attempt to derail the DP lynch.

That's a rather small (and weak) attempt at doing so, though. Why does this ping you as wagon derailment?

(oh, and I forgot to say that even Voided isn't even a real scumread so much as a PoE null-maybe-town-I don't know-whatever-I need sleep person. And I don't even feel like editing this to make any sense)

I think it makes enough sense, don't worry.

Why would scum medium dead scum?

Scum medium-ing dead scum isn't a bad idea, so long as the scum in question is someone who would be very conducive to scum planning and efforts. As I said when the question was first brought up, I don't think DP is that kind of person.

I also agree that that Sean-Voided is the most likely bussin' area.

Why Sean-me?

All the reasons for voting me are bupkis and I'm nothing but a "hey he's lurking, lets lynch it!!!" lynch.

No, I'm pretty sure most of it doesn't have to do with you being a lurksack as of late. Not on my end, anyways.

I also think scum are a lil' less likely to start a bandwagon and I've explained Harakiri so w/e.

Wouldn't this run a little contrary to your scumread on me, since I kinda started the wagon on you?

[BBmolla]

Post

[BBmolla]

If someone wants to chat I'm down

[morph the cat]

If someone wants to chat I'm down

So hi.

You have a scumpile?

[BBmolla]

Not really.

Where's the Nero case?

Is there anyone in particular you want me to give my read on?

[1baldeagle1]

Not really.

Where's the Nero case?

Is there anyone in particular you want me to give my read on?

Wow, not one single scumread? I think he has been posting less because of the scum apathy.


VOTE: BBMolla

Voided, gonna do a side by side comparison of your most recent town game and scum game.

[morph the cat]

Not really.

Where's the Nero case?

Is there anyone in particular you want me to give my read on?

Tammy made a nero case on day 2. So did Garuda. I have amorphous niggles about his play, but I think Tammy did a much better job of nailing down precisely where the issues are. Iso Pyro and ctl-f is probably the best way to find her comments about him.

I'd like to know which players bother you most, and why.

[BBmolla]

Oh yeah, Voided is still scum.

[BBmolla]

Not really.

Where's the Nero case?

Is there anyone in particular you want me to give my read on?

Wow, not one single scumread? I think he has been posting less because of the scum apathy.


VOTE: BBMolla

Voided, gonna do a side by side comparison of your most recent town game and scum game.

If I was scum then at least I could make up reads.

[Harakiri]

Nero's P scummy imo

[BBmolla]

Zdenek/KingdomAces slot is probably scum

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: KingdomAces

Since Voided wagon died when bald unvoted him I'll go here.

[BBmolla]

I don't think Zdenek would have underplayed as much as he did if he were town.

[Seanald]

I don't agree with the nero wagon, nero always gets this kinda flak in his games, I still read him as town, he sounds too much like his town game to me.


how did zdenek underplay here? he seemed like he always does to me.

[zMuffinMan]

You assumed I was done catching up after finishing read day 2 stuff?

yeah, you posted that at 6.30pm my time. i asked you a question 2 hours later after seeing nothing else from you.

you posted 1.5 hours after i asked the question and ignored it.

i didn't realise it took you over 4 hours to read the 13 or so pages that happened D3.

The whole "omg u r sew stupid [if you thing Mhork was implying you were lurking scum] for thinking that">>"ok well yeah, he implied that and didn't know what he was saying." seemed rather forced to me.

ok. is that it? your argument with mhork is not why i thought you were scum (the only reason it's become a conversation point is because

you

made a big deal out of it as a sticking point). the main reasons i think you're scum are that your contributions to the game, when you actually make contributions, are weak as shit. D1 your arguments for thinking harakiri was scum were bad (and i broke these down towards the end of D1) and apart from the harakiri read, i don't remember any contributions from you D1 worth noting. D2 was much of the same, except now you're either calling everyone attacking you scum or you've downgraded them to null reads. even if it's you we're talking about here, the fact you have no scum reads outside the people wagoning you is hilarious.

Hence the line "there's scum in".

you don't have any other scum reads

so even if you are right and there

is

scum in {me, mhork, voided}, where's the other scum nero?

[zMuffinMan]

so even if you are right and there is scum in {me, mhork, voided}, where's the other scum nero?

btw i apologise in advance for rushing you about this, feel free to get back to me in a couple weeks