A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Shadoweh]

Are they? I got the impression he only did non-confirmational cops. A macho cop is pretty much just as bad as a regular cop.
quadz also dropped off mentioning goat after Day 1 other then to question his reads once. I dunno I'd probably be more explicit with clears in a game like this.

[Titus]

Will continue my read as if Quadz is cop to look for discrepancies or consistencies.

[Garruk Relentless]

The most egregious one is investigating SD and that certainly anyone with half a brain could have gotten a read on via dayplay with the 10-man wagon on him. Moreover it was a claimed JOAT. why waste a cop on it, 'falling off the map' a pitiful excuse. Not that the others also weren't bad.

VOTE: Quadz

Bad.

Also, Tierce, I really need you to stop clearing people based off roleclaims. I know this is slightly hypocritical because my clear is based off roleclaim.

[PrideandJoy]

The most egregious one is investigating SD and that certainly anyone with half a brain could have gotten a read on via dayplay with the 10-man wagon on him. Moreover it was a claimed JOAT. why waste a cop on it, 'falling off the map' a pitiful excuse. Not that the others also weren't bad.

VOTE: Quadz

Bad.

Also, Tierce, I really need you to stop clearing people based off roleclaims. I know this is slightly hypocritical because my clear is based off roleclaim.

learn to play

[Garruk Relentless]

You're whole convo smelt of awkward bussing.

[PrideandJoy]

bussing is not a thing that happens after someone is forced to claim and is L-2.

learn to play

[Garruk Relentless]

o ok bos

[Benmage]

CHess is wrong.

[PrideandJoy]

this is actiondan

[PrideandJoy]

I am also right. Even Garrak agrees with me

[Benmage]

My statement about chess is still true. That said, dan your blank statement is incorrect about busing as whole... If you want to say it doesn't apply to this scenario be free.

[Benmage]

Especially when you consider you've previously taken shots at quadz for being scum, but never really put your $ where your mouth is.

Its scum 1-0-1 strategy to call their teammates scum, yet vote a different scum read. Cahlasssic.

[Tierce]

The most egregious one is investigating SD and that certainly anyone with half a brain could have gotten a read on via dayplay with the 10-man wagon on him. Moreover it was a claimed JOAT. why waste a cop on it, 'falling off the map' a pitiful excuse. Not that the others also weren't bad.

VOTE: Quadz

Bad.

Also, Tierce, I really need you to stop clearing people based off roleclaims. I know this is slightly hypocritical because my clear is based off roleclaim.

I'm not. But I'm freely acknowledging that for the next two days, I will have no brain for this. My brain is flowers and catering and timetables and etc.

[Natirasha]

Especially when you consider you've previously taken shots at quadz for being scum, but never really put your $ where your mouth is.

Its scum 1-0-1 strategy to call their teammates scum, yet vote a different scum read. Cahlasssic.

thx Benmage.

[PrideandJoy]

ok well I'd prefer it be labeled, "scum voting other scum coincidentally" instead of bussing. bussing tends to happen earlier and is also planned out in advance most of the time. At any rate, yes, it clearly wouldn't apply here.

cuts.

lmao. that's called distancing. not bussing.

[Benmage]

The Faraday meta arguments are interesting. Macho Cop is a cute fakeclaim if it is.

If I'm Jango Fett, Faraday is my Boba Fett.

SO considering this, and my recent mockeries of him support scum in ALLL his games... and me mocking the destructive-ness of cops, he may have heard me. But you know how kids are these days, ugh.

I'll ponder this when I'm not at work.

[Garruk Relentless]

Especially when you consider you've previously taken shots at quadz for being scum, but never really put your $ where your mouth is.

Its scum 1-0-1 strategy to call their teammates scum, yet vote a different scum read. Cahlasssic.

thx Benmage.

Damn I was doing so well at not slipping.

For the record, I believe Quadz is a cop, I don't believe he's town.

[Benmage]

ok well I'd prefer it be labeled, "scum voting other scum coincidentally" instead of bussing. bussing tends to happen earlier and is also planned out in advance most of the time. At any rate, yes, it clearly wouldn't apply here.

cuts.

lmao. that's called distancing. not bussing.

Meh... its a precursor to busing... As distancing itself has many variants.

[Tammy]

ok well I'd prefer it be labeled, "scum voting other scum coincidentally" instead of bussing. bussing tends to happen earlier and is also planned out in advance most of the time. At any rate, yes, it clearly wouldn't apply here.

cuts.

lmao. that's called distancing. not bussing.

You're not really that dense. You're actually telling other people to learn to play when you're making such an inane comment.

I bussed Syryana once when he was at L-1 and forced to claim. Other people unvoted him and I was all like "oh I hate the way he claimed, he's probably not really a cop." Discussed it and then hammered and basked in the town cred.

[Benmage]

Are they? I got the impression he only did non-confirmational cops. A macho cop is pretty much just as bad as a regular cop.
quadz also dropped off mentioning goat after Day 1 other then to question his reads once. I dunno I'd probably be more explicit with clears in a game like this.

I think aCoK was a pretty standard cop for the game. EVen if there was a standardish cop... there'd be scum safe-nets, like GF/RB. With no flips revealed we can't even tell what scum power might look like...

Is there much harm in letting quadz continue to give some cop reads.. Either we deal with him in a day or 2.... with some more reads etc to go off of. Or scum off him to avoid the reads... again more things I'll ponder when not at work.

[Benmage]

I meant to say the no flips... itself is quite the scum advantage. Faraday obv didn't realize this when balancing this game scumsided.

[Cephrir]

A cursory flip back says the targets are at least plausible. One thing I have to question is whether a macho cop ever, in a million years, actually claims "macho cop". Might as well paste a "kill me" sign on your forehead. Do I believe it? Maybe. For once I actually think roles could be related to alignments here (what would be the point of a scum cop? Unless it's actually a rolecop?), but not in such a fashion that it's relevant or I care in the slightest. This claim implies pretty strongly that SD is scum if it's true, so I will probably oppose lynching anyone other than the two of them. Unless some really attractive wagon that I desperately want anyway pops up.

Are they? I got the impression he only did non-confirmational cops. A macho cop is pretty much just as bad as a regular cop.
quadz also dropped off mentioning goat after Day 1 other then to question his reads once. I dunno I'd probably be more explicit with clears in a game like this.

THis is a good point. On the other hand, is it really possible to explicityly clear anyone if you aren't going to actually flip cop? Is someone really going to look back and say, "hey I think this guy was probably a cop"? Not unless it's as blatant as saying "on further thought I think X is town" at the start of every single day, MAYBE.

ok well I'd prefer it be labeled, "scum voting other scum coincidentally" instead of bussing. bussing tends to happen earlier and is also planned out in advance most of the time. At any rate, yes, it clearly wouldn't apply here.

cuts.

lmao. that's called distancing. not bussing.

Distancing and bussing are pretty much the same thing. And I have no trouble it could happen at L-2 from you when you haven't really been here to be bussing earlier.

[Tammy]

Last year faraday ran a Wheel of Time game in which he gave the scum team a full cop. When I asked about it end game (since I was just a town flavor cop), he said it was to give the scum team credibility.

[Garruk Relentless]

Yeah, I have a recently-ended game on another site I could link with a scumcop, but people will just say it doesn't apply and I'm useless/a retard/an idiot because it was modded by someone who's name rhymes with "Warlahindur". His opinion(and mine by proxy) is that a scum cop is pretty much claim protection because of pretty much Cephrir's reasoning above.

I could fully see Faraday doing that.

[Benmage]

One thing I have to question is whether a macho cop ever, in a million years, actually claims "macho cop". Might as well paste a "kill me" sign on your forehead.

Brilliant.