I don't remember a "case" on me. I remember a post about me and his conclusion was that I'm town. I also remember him having a problem with my Hermy vote but I already responded to that.
yep but I have a town pm so how does that work?In post 2493, Harakiri wrote:Nero's P scummy imo
nope, took a break. I'll get right back to work boss pls don't dock my pay!!!In post 2498, zMuffinMan wrote:yeah, you posted that at 6.30pm my time. i asked you a question 2 hours later after seeing nothing else from you.nero wrote:You assumed I was done catching up after finishing read day 2 stuff?
you posted 1.5 hours after i asked the question and ignored it.
i didn't realise it took you over 4 hours to read the 13 or so pages that happened D3.
Do you consider the arguments used to lynch Hermy to be great? Don't bother answering that 'cause its a rhetorical question. If they we so great then she wouldn't have flipped town. If I weren't so lazy I could quote you where my cases are called shitty all the time. Its a really lazy point to begin with but you thinking that's a scumtell, much less a scumtell for me, is pants on head.the main reasons i think you're scum are that your contributions to the game, when you actually make contributions, are weak as shit. D1 your arguments for thinking harakiri was scum were bad (and i broke these down towards the end of D1)
I know you don't need to read but you could atleast pretend to. The rest of the scum is in my null pile.nero wrote:Hence the line "there's scum in".you don't have any other scum reads
so even if you are right and thereisscum in {me, mhork, voided}, where's the other scum nero?
LIAR SCUM FOUND!!!In post 2515, zMuffinMan wrote:which stuff?
i've played with nero a few times before (a couple years back) but it has nothing to do with why i think he's scum here.
I'm p sure this was a joke. Why no sense of humor?In post 2521, Voidedmafia wrote:I don't see why Garuda would have to fear Nero putting him in the null/scum pile.In post 2509, zMuffinMan wrote:is this out of fear that he's going to downgrade you to his null/scum pile, or do you really think nero is town?
She does know it was semi-random right?In post 2543, Lord Mhork wrote: She doesn't like Nero having said he sent her money when he didn't have her as a town read.
In post 1434, pieguyn wrote:1253 what is that I don't even. Nero comes off better here, Mhork doesn't make any sense here at all =.=
Can you explain yourself a lil' better here?In post 2437, pieguyn wrote: null again. I haven't really sorted him yet. that one interaction with Mhork he had doesn't read town v town for me, so I'm wary about them for now.
Um, there are many things I fear in the world of mafia; Nero Cain is just about the last thing that would ever make that list.In post 2509, zMuffinMan wrote:is this out of fear that he's going to downgrade you to his null/scum pile, or do you really think nero is town?
In post 2462, Nero Cain wrote:In post 1841, Nero Cain wrote:This says nothing about you lurking.....In post 1646, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Lurking isn't a scumtell for me.In post 1600, Nero Cain wrote:@ Bald, you really thinkMorphMhork would imply that I'm lurking scum then say that he didn't...as town?
Atm, I'm not sure what to make of you. Some posts I don't like, and some I do.
Try again please.
This is precisely what bothers me. You think the dude is scum so who cares if he "snaps out of it" or not?In post 2521, Voidedmafia wrote:I've been trying to get him to snap out of this stupid fixation on me since early/mid-D2 simply because of how ridiculous it is.
Faraday being absent from the game is actually not that big of a deal for me considering he prefers scum (we're talking about a former Don Corleone winner and a guy who is just generally very proud of his scum game). If anything, I think a scum PM would give him more drive - even when he felt demotivated as scum in Mafiastuck, he was still very active the entire time he was alive and was consistently on top of the game.In post 2527, morph the cat wrote:This is the list. These are ffery thoughts, though I don't think Cabd's thoughts differ much at this point based on our weekend discussions. We haven't formally gone through our reads, though, so there could be a surprise lurking somewhere.
Lost Butterfly - it's kinda freaked me out that faraday has been so absent, but based on reading along with the game he's modding, his availability really is this limited. I have no experience playing with Mina and I hear her scum game is very good. So, despite some amazingly insightful and useful analysis of the bids and advertisements, I worry.
Pie - When he entered the game, my experience with his play was precisely zip. He seems to play a really transparent game, with a fair amount of aggressive questioning. His catch up post read town as fuck. Still think he's town.
Peregrine - I'm basically going with Shaheed's law. if he's scum, town has already lost, so I'm assuming he's town and the efforts we're putting into the game aren't wasted on a foregone conclusion. I probably won't back off this position, but, Cabd and I plan to do some meta analysis well before this game day ends.
upside down - The town read has gotten stale. I haven't played with Quilford before, and my game with N, he was scum. This is another read I don't feel all that qualified to call definitive.
I'm semi-lumping Garuda into this list because even though they aren't in the group that's having funds funneled their direction, they've had a disproportionate impact on my reads and votes. Which is par for the course, even when I have trouble keeping my nacho-read in sharp focus all game day. And that's where I'm at. When he's posting, I follow his logic and observations, and even if I disagree, I can clearly see how he arrives at his reads. I really hate the Hermy lynch though, looking back on it. I asked an open-ended question about her first game, hoping to draw out the lylo self-vote and to at least have a sense if there was a meta basis for the read, or if it was entirely due to her posts in this game. I didn't really get an answer from Nacho. But, time was way short by then and we wound up voting her too. With left hand and right hand scum subteams, the fact that he was a strong and early proponent of the Dr Pepper lynch isn't as strong a town point as it otherwise would be.
Basically, the level of activity on the part of a lot of players since day 3 started, including the five above, has turned some of my reads into mush. I'm glad that we're not in a mad rush like the previous 2 Days, though. I want some time for thought, review, and research.
(1) OK. i don't think it is, either, but the only scum reads he has are people voting him, and i honestly don't think he's that bad at this game that he really believes what he's saying about thisLB wrote:1) OMGUS-ing is not and will never be a scumtell, and 2) Nero has been attacking you, Voided, and Mhork for a really long time. Never mind that I don't think we've ever been a town read of his (at the very least, I remember we weren't in his list of six yesterday).
it isn't about the quality of your case, it's about how it was dismantled at the end of D1 and you still pushing it when it was nonsensical.nero wrote:If I weren't so lazy I could quote you where my cases are called shitty all the time. Its a really lazy point to begin with but you thinking that's a scumtell, much less a scumtell for me, is pants on head.
i don't think i've spent that much time arguing with you (proportionate to how much i've actually posted). how many of my posts have you read?nero wrote:Other than arguing with me, what would you claim your in game contributions are?
you have like 7? names in your null pile. i'm asking you to be more specific here. D3, 100+ pages. shouldn't be that hard.nero wrote:The rest of the scum is in my null pile
cutenero wrote:Its rather ironic that in that game Monkeyscum got lynched for pretending to have not played with me and now Muffinscum is getting lynched for lying about not having played with me recently.
I have a hell of a lot more experience reading Nacho than I do you. If I had to nail a read on you, I'd worry a lot more about Garuda.In post 2560, Garuda wrote:I'm sad that I'm not at the forefront of your minds.
Well, seeing as Nacho's gonna be MIA in this thread until he gets steady computer access, you're gonna have to deal with me for a while so SUCK IT UP BROS.In post 2562, morph the cat wrote:I have a hell of a lot more experience reading Nacho than I do you. If I had to nail a read on you, I'd worry a lot more about Garuda.
Here's a thought. If he is scum lynch him. Crisis averted. Shaheed is a moron.In post 2527, morph the cat wrote: Peregrine - I'm basically going with Shaheed's law. if he's scum, town has already lost, so I'm assuming he's town and the efforts we're putting into the game aren't wasted on a foregone conclusion.
Have I not mentioned that I've heard Faraday's awesome at scum? Both Nacho and Empire have talked about how scary scum-Faraday is. Probably other players, as well, but those two made quite an impression on me.In post 2571, Lost Butterfly wrote:Also, morph's paranoia is funny. I like to think I'mdecentas Mafia, but Faraday is much, much, MUCH better. Like, I'd rank him as one of the best scum players on this site. But anyway, his inactivity has nothing to do with our alignment, because he has RL stuff on his plate now.
Actually, ffeyrellt, now I'm wondering how you didn't hear this about Faraday, but were told I was "very good" at scum. I've been town in all my games on this site since early 2012.
I know you like to bash your scum game, but what do you think you would have done differently, Empire? (Don't say, "I wouldn't have even posted!")In post 2563, Garuda wrote:Well, seeing as Nacho's gonna be MIA in this thread until he gets steady computer access, you're gonna have to deal with me for a while so SUCK IT UP BROS.In post 2562, morph the cat wrote:I have a hell of a lot more experience reading Nacho than I do you. If I had to nail a read on you, I'd worry a lot more about Garuda.
(In all honesty, I think the way I've played this game is completely totally different from how I'd approach any game as scum but whatever this argument's unlikely to convince you.)
I don't remember where I heard about your scum game tbh. I have a vague recollection that it was actually in this game thread, but it could have come up in chat with any number of MS players.In post 2573, Lost Butterfly wrote:In post 2563, Garuda wrote:In post 2562, morph the cat wrote: p-edit: If you thought all along that Faraday being disengaged was a sign we wereinnocent, then why was the only thing you said about it that Faraday's absence (nothis lack of scumhunting) "freaked you out"? The implication was obviously that you thought it was a bad sign. And I actually AM weirded out by you knowing about my scum meta. Yes, there are players in this game who might say that, but how wouldyouknow?