A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Titus]

I thought you were an idiot but now you're trying to interfere with cop testing by suggesting flavor. Lynch him with fire.

[Titus]

Of course, not admitting whether either flavor suggestion is real.

[Shadoweh]

Oh, I thought it was obvious that I didn't roleblock anyone. Well, I don't think I did anyways.

[ooba]

No it doesn't because you're not considering 1) your own reads or 2) that my claim doesn't contradict Quadz, Quadz is counter-claiming I didn't do what I say I did. It's not a clear 1v1. So why is preferring to lynch me the option here?

I'm making these numbers up but they kinda reflect my thoughts right now:

60% chance that Quadz is scum, you're town

- I still think Quadz is a very good bet for SpyreX scumbuddy
- But he's claimed cop so I'll willing to take the 35% chance on you; if was closer to LyLo, then sure - I would have voted him in a heartbeat but right now we have the luxury of lynching you first and still being wrong about it. Plus we also lose more if we're wrong about Quadz.
- Quadz-scum is probably banking on the fact that town will either go 'let's have the cop live; it resolve itself in a couple of days' tomorrow; However, I will oppose that viewpoint and push for his lynch tomorrow if you flip town - your mislynch will not go in vain

20% chance of Dual scum teams - Refer theory

15% chance that you're scum, Quadz is town

- I don't have anything on you-SpyreX connections but on the other hand I don't have a clear "not a SpyreX scum buddy" like I do for Titus or Messiah so this possibility still exists

5% chance of both of you being town

- I'm just not feeling this - feels like this would require too many coincidences - 'Scum need to have roleblocked Quadz' , the day playing out the way it did. I'd still like to be through and remove the possibility of some going 'You should have waited for me to weigh in' on D5

[ooba]

^ For completeness sake, I should probably add that I currently view the case of Quadz and you both being scum together as unlikely. Too much risk in that scum gambit (it feels stupid).

[Eddard Stark]

Day 4, Vc 20

The Alchemist (1) -

Benmage

Titus (4) -

kanyeknowsbest, SafetyDance, Goat on a Raft, elleheathen

SafetyDance (8) -

quadz08, Nautilius, AGar, ooba, The Alchemist, Cephrir, Garruk Relentless, Titus

quadz08 (2) -

Shadoweh, Goat on a Raft

Tierce (1) -

Katsuki

Garruk Relentless (1) -

Messiah Complex

No lynch (1) -

PrideandJoy

Not voting (3)

- Alfred Borden, Tammy, Tierce

With 20 alive it takes 11 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 10th of November at 17:00 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-11-10 17:00:00)
  
• Tierce is V/la. Your mod is V/la again. elleheathen is V/la

Prodding Katsuki.

[Titus]

Ok. I am at page 31. What is the marriage thing? It happened a few pages back but no one explained it.

[Tammy]

That's pretty no relevant to the game at all. It was one of my roles, I had to marry someone by day two. I chose syryana and we shared a qt for a day before we got divorced by commute so we wouldn't die together as lovers.

[Titus]

This seems like an obvious place for an NK to go and not happen. I could see scum trying to get a two for one there no? This logically casts doubt on Tierce's bp claim. I will hold my horses on that for now.

Did Syr explain the disappearing thing. Saw it in the vcs.

[Tammy]

Yes, he commuted and is now the alchemist.

I doubt, though it would be hilarious that scum would target him when it was publicly made that he disappeared.

If you mean him kill, read what I said as people were trying to lynch him yesterday instead of spyrex then tell me what you think.

[Tierce]

Scum did not know they were lovers; if they did, it's because one of them is scum and the point is moot. Furthermore, Syryana commuted publicly and was ineligible for actions; NK couldn't go there because he was not in the game to begin with.

[Titus]

Derp. No I meant kill you. If you and Syr were lovers, killing you would remove you both from play right? Marriage made me think lovers as I love my husband a lot. *gush*


When I get to that point, I will let you know. It will likely be colored by my reads that are starting to form now.

I have some BenMage style frustration regarding a few things {omg they ignored that}. I sympathize but catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

Off now for the night. Depending on how fast I knockout a work report, I could get very far tomorrow. I hope so.

[Titus]

Scum did not know they were lovers; if they did, it's because one of them is scum and the point is moot. Furthermore, Syryana commuted publicly and was ineligible for actions; NK couldn't go there because he was not in the game to begin with.

Marriage suggests lovers.

[Tammy]

That would have happened, and tierce is right, no one knew we were lovers. I explained it as a one shot neighborizer with marriage flavor, and syry commuted the first night so that wouldn't happen.

[Katsuki]

prod dodge

have still yet to read in detail but from what I remember of SD earlier, I will hammer if he gets to L-1.

[ooba]

prod dodge

have still yet to read in detail but from what I remember of SD earlier, I will hammer if he gets to L-1.

Also, you didn't roleblock Quadz yesterday night right?

[Katsuki]

Nope.

[Nautilius]

How so?

- Des

I find the odds that quadz, a middling townread for pretty much everyone, got roleblocked by on the day when SD said that he tracked him intensely weird.

I need to do my own thinking about this claim but general question: is it site meta here to check your null reads over your scumreads (the latter is what I've typically done offsite)? Because I recall quadz suspecting ooba pretty heavily and see that name as a pretty glaring omission among his investigations.

If I was ever a cop, I'd investigate people that I couldn't read.

Right now, GR and PnJ are scumreads. Tierce is a solid town read. Shadoweh is conftown for the most part unless he does something really scummy. His wavelength has practically mirrored mine thus far.

Why?

I'm not sure. I was going to kill quadz so you can see my indecision. >.> The way this is playing out, probably whichever of SD or quadz doesn't get lynched if the lynched one flips town.

What happens when one flips scum?
And why aren't you marrying me yet?

Evil: SafetyDance-Messiah-Nacho

ooba.

I notice Nautilius isn't saying if they used any ability night 2 and if it failed or not. Should have heard from them before.

If I had any information disputing this bit, I would have announced it.

I'm still frustrated that AGar wasn't shot last night instead of "Faraday's troll-scum character".

[Nautilius]

I'm not really all that hyped about the SD wagon at the moment.

[kanyeknowsbest]

personally i feel very :I abt the whole situ.

[kanyeknowsbest]

btw naucho, thoughts re: the latest vc having you voting sd ?

[kanyeknowsbest]

oh huh actually im confused i guess you can ignore thjat.

[Nautilius]

will you lynch AGar with me?

[kanyeknowsbest]

hey quadz how come you never crumbed your inno on goat? also did u crumb being a cop at all ever ?

[kanyeknowsbest]

uhhh i honestly forget my read on agar this game. i had resolved 2 sheep you 2day tho 2 make up 4 my spyrex mistake so i guess if u make it compelling enough?

im actually leaning quadz right now tho.