NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Guyett]

Ok I've done a quick read of Lucid dreamers, its my only game with Caled which I remember and she was scum in it.
She lurked pretty hard through that game too

VOTE: Caled

And you didn't compare this to a town game because...

I haven't played with caled in a town game....

[likeabauss]

likeabauss

, I know you can read Rank like a book. What is he?

Rank

, I know you can read likeabauss like a book. What is he?

Too soon to be certain, but Rank is most likely town.

[likeabauss]

1) Do you have any empirical evidence backing that claim, because it looks like a load of bullshit.

2) Sorry not sorry that we're excited to play with a bunch of players that we like.

3) You missed the part where I said that I'm townreading all the active players other than RC (active being players with more posts than the mod at that time).

1) 50% of the time, it works every time. If you make calls in mafia strictly on empirical evidence, hot tears of shame should stream forth from thy face.

2) There's a difference between being excited to play with people you like and stroking them/your history to position yourself. Examples:
A) Hey guys, wicked pumped to be here. Hi5! Let's wreck some scum. (This says, let's play mafia and have fun)
B) Hey guys, happy to be here! Don't screw up like last time and misread me. (This is preempetive positioning. You're cautioning them to be slow and deliberate with their reads on you, and broadcasting to the player base that those players haven't read you well in the past.)
Your "excitement" reeks of example B and its a highly suspect maneuver in my opinion. Its nuance, but there it is.

3) I don't see the relevance of your point 3 as a defense or rebuttal to anything I said. I might need a better explanation, or just more coffee.

[TheIrishPope]

What do you think he'll say about you?

[Guyett]

14. RadiantCowbells - town. I don't think I've played with RC before. However he seems to be just taking the piss... I could see him as town just fucking around but I couldn't see scum doing that.

Calls out other people for posting full.

Calls RC's fluff town.

#logic.

subtle differences here...

[Sakura Hana]

So... Guyett, when are you gonna stop being hypocritical?

[Guyett]

Never... I tend to see faults in others but ignore my own

[TheIrishPope]

Then replace out pls

[Guyett]

I will say that this game was hard enough to get into.
There was a few pages posted before I got told that the day had started and by the time I had a chance to read the thread more pages had been posted. My motivation to actually take part was pretty low until a few days ago as I felt I was already well behind the game.
Take from that what you will.

[Guyett]

This game has my full attention now and I don't want to replace out.

[Sakura Hana]

Guess it's a good thing I had this thread bookmarked so i noticed day started early.

[goodmorning]

i could put a cat here

or laziness actually

Votecount 1.21

RadiantCowbells [L-7] - Angry Frat BROs, Doctor Jekyll

Sakura Hana [L-7] - Rank, Hermy

yessiree [L-7] - likeabauss, Toomai

Guyett [L-7] - PeregrineV, Sakura Hana

JacobSavage [L-7] - sangres, MC Maraca

TheIrishPope [L-8] - yessiree

sangres [L-8] - MVP

Hermy [L-8] - RadiantCowbells

caledfwitch [L-8] - Guyett

Not Voting [3] - JacobSavage, caledfwitch, TheIrishPope

With 17 alive, it takes

9

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-11-20 09:39:00)

Rank has requested replacement.

[likeabauss]

What do you think he'll say about you?

He'll probably avoid talking about my amazing charm and striking good looks. He might toss in a mom joke, play a little ditty on his banjo, and then proclaim my towniness for all to see.

But I don't like sharing strong town reads on D1 that other folks can leverage. Example, if the people that read you 100% say on D1 that you are town, scum needs to slay you. Otherwise, you're as good as conftown. There's a similar dynamic with Rank and I, as we typically read each other well.

[Sakura Hana]

Also almost forgot to answer this:

Scum: Guyett.
Town: RC, AFB.

Pretty small ammount of reads but you know me and my thing with getting decent reads early on during large games.

1) How are you townreading RC.

2) If you're townreading both me/AP and RC, why aren't you trying to get me/AP off RC?

I think his posts come from a town motivation.

I didn't even know you were on RC, so get off RC then. (Yeah I know that's weak but that's kinda all I can come up with atm).

liking likeabauss for town atm.

[likeabauss]

VOTE: angryfratbros

Forgot this before.

[Sakura Hana]

What makes you think their excitement is faked?

[TheIrishPope]

Well he replaced out so whatever.
D1 towniness is bad to you, bauss?

[likeabauss]

Where's Nacho? What do you make of my point #2 in post 552?

[Sakura Hana]

I think it's null at best.

I thought it was mentioned already that nacho got his laptop stolen?

[likeabauss]

Sakura and TIP, I'm going to ask for some latitude on those questions at this juncture. Rank replacing out is an interesting development, and I need to reread quickly, and get responses to my current pending questions. After that, we lynch FratBros and go into N1 like bosses.

[likeabauss]

Where's Nacho? What do you make of my point #2 in post 552?

For clarity, I just want Nacho to respond to this.

[Angry Frat BROs]

1) Do you have any empirical evidence backing that claim, because it looks like a load of bullshit.

2) Sorry not sorry that we're excited to play with a bunch of players that we like.

3) You missed the part where I said that I'm townreading all the active players other than RC (active being players with more posts than the mod at that time).

1) 50% of the time, it works every time. If you make calls in mafia strictly on empirical evidence, hot tears of shame should stream forth from thy face.

2) There's a difference between being excited to play with people you like and stroking them/your history to position yourself. Examples:
A) Hey guys, wicked pumped to be here. Hi5! Let's wreck some scum. (This says, let's play mafia and have fun)
B) Hey guys, happy to be here! Don't screw up like last time and misread me. (This is preempetive positioning. You're cautioning them to be slow and deliberate with their reads on you, and broadcasting to the player base that those players haven't read you well in the past.)
Your "excitement" reeks of example B and its a highly suspect maneuver in my opinion. Its nuance, but there it is.

3) I don't see the relevance of your point 3 as a defense or rebuttal to anything I said. I might need a better explanation, or just more coffee.

1) If you're going to make an empirically-driven argument ("people who replace out on day 1 are usually scum"), you'd better have empirical evidence to back that up. You don't, because it's a load of bullshit.

2) The only thing you could categorize in that B category is our trolling with Nacho, and I doubt Nacho is going to hold back if he scumreads us

3) You called my comments to the lurkers "town cheerleading," when I made it plenty clear that I was townreading the vast majority of the active players. There are very few players (read: one) that I feel comfortable reading after only a few posts. That you're trying to spin that as "town cheerleading" is bad and you should feel bad.

[Guyett]

Question for Sak and Tip if he feels like answering too

How many games have we played together where you scum read me? How many have you not scum read me?
Of those games how many have I been town and how many have I been scum?

[Sakura Hana]

ETL's camping trip, I scumread you, you flipped scum.
Mismatched I town read you in the end and you flipped town.

Can't remember any others.

[likeabauss]

Mobile for bit. I can't wait to get to a computer. In the interim, can those of you who are picking up what I'm putting down start piling votes onto the FratBoys? That's a scum slot right there and votes on it are good.