Brian Skies wrote: Now, if only "lynch all newb-lurkers" actually worked as a viable scum-tell. The first time I ever played Mafia, I rolled scum and I promise you I did not lurk. I took control of the town and lynched every person I wanted to.
Good for you, please post a link to the game in question. This is a highly dangerous strategy that never works against good players for more than a few rounds because you are either mafia killing town or a misguided town lynching the wrong people, nobody would then follow your reads after a certain point and if you further tried to lead town after failing everyone else would see you as highly suspicious. Furthermore once a town is lynched you can revisit all the motivations that led to that lynch and if you actually were the one going for it the chance you slipped is higher, especially if you are a new mafia player.
Brian Skies wrote:70 Let's say you lynch a quiet player and they indeed flip town. Then what? You're back to the same boat but the player never gave you any information to work with. If you want a particular player to produce you content, take the initiative and engage them.
Totally disagree with this, first you reduce the suspect pool because the quiet town was inherently suspicious as there is no way to get a read on him, second you avoid worring about a future mislynch at lylo, thirdly it's the players own fault if he gets lynched and he was town, there is no reason to "take the initiative" and make him produce content, he is responsible for showing the rest of us he is town and finally you know his alignment so you have more information than before the lynch which you can use to re-read previous posts of other people who actually produced content. This said, we tried prodding IamDr multiple times, since this game was going nowhere.
Brian Skies wrote:How the hell did you get two completely different reactions meshed together like that?
That was not a reaction, that's what I read about her post after analyizing it, I liked the part where she gave a town read, have to say by the way I'm liking it less and less since she has been giving town reads left right and centre, albeit well motivated, and I did not like the deflection so much, so I explained what could be behind it given both possible scenarios. I also find it important to always give my thought process when writing so everyone else who is town can get a read off of that and come back to it if they need to make a decision on my alignment in the future.
Brian Skies wrote: 120 1) I think people just find it suspicious when you try to direct blame onto a player for what they did in a previous game.
What they might have found suspicious is that I wrongly accused DC, saying that meta gaming is suspicious is just weird, of course you will compare a player to how he played and what he did in another game to see if it's his usual style. Take the GIF sheep for instance, the fact he stated in a previous game that sheeping is done at the start to put pressure on someone and see how they react makes it less likely he is mafia, if BW were to sheep someone in a future game that would be an insta-tell for me, given how he is reacting to people sheeping and his general play style.
Brian Skies wrote: 2) If you haven't seen her town-game, how can you discern?
Is there a need to discern when she was either mafia or bad town and a good lynch anyway?
So to sum this up, you produced a lot of content, most of it is questioning other people's plays and some of it is defending your slot, the first part is fine and what I would also do as new town coming into the game, the second part I don't buy at all but it's more IamDr's fault for putting you into this position than yours so I'll try to play as if she never did at least day 1.
I also see there are some murky reads hidden in the posts, which I would like you to make explicit, so here's my invitation: please give us your top mafia and top town reads.
Jmo16mla wrote:A LOT of those post show me creating discussion... typically indicative of town players..
I don't see that at all, a lot of his posts make you look suspicious.
I like where we are going now because I can clearly see two factions emerging with JM and Nacho (btw Nacho kindly answer the open questions we have for you) on one side and GM and BR on the other.
