Micro 256 ~ Bailey and Hunt's time is over. (Mafia Wins)

[shos]

kay I'm stopping in start of page 8. what I have to say is this:
if each of us targets the one above them, that means that quack doc and CPR doc are 100% killing. in such a case, 2 kills will surely happen. mafia can theoretically stop one if they target the CPR's target, but meh.

this means that mathematically, we have good chance of hitting at least one scum. the bad thing is these chances aren't that good, so we also ahve good chances of losing three peeps in N1.

what do you think about we go through this day and pic two most scummy targets, and then, half targets one and half targets the other? or 3-3-3?

[RationalMadman]

shos is for sure scum with angel

[RationalMadman]

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[T S O]

Basically I wanted to see who would immediately try to lynch me.

That's why I'm voting Jacob.

[bazinga]

bazinga, isn't the point that if everyone follows the plan, all town player's targets will be known? Anyone town who dies, we know who they targeted; anyone who dies, we can work on figuring out why depending on other flips.

I think it is safe to say that bert may not understand the plan or something.

but yeah that is the point

[bazinga]

kay I'm stopping in start of page 8. what I have to say is this:
if each of us targets the one above them, that means that quack doc and CPR doc are 100% killing. in such a case, 2 kills will surely happen. mafia can theoretically stop one if they target the CPR's target, but meh.

this means that mathematically, we have good chance of hitting at least one scum. the bad thing is these chances aren't that good, so we also ahve good chances of losing three peeps in N1.

what do you think about we go through this day and pic two most scummy targets, and then, half targets one and half targets the other? or 3-3-3?

nope, it defeats the purpose. I would rather stick with something that has worked before.

[Malakittens]

Dr. George O'Malley: 007. They're calling me 007, aren't they?
Dr. Isobel 'Izzie' Stevens, Dr. Meredith Grey: No one's calling you 007.
Dr. George O'Malley: I was on the elevator, and Murphy whispered '007'.
Dr. Cristina Yang: Okay, how many times are we going to go through this, George? Five, ten? Give me a number or else I'm gonna hit you.
Dr. George O'Malley: Murphy whispered '007', and everyone laughed.
Dr. Isobel 'Izzie' Stevens: He wasn't talking about you.
Dr. George O'Malley: Are you sure?
Dr. Meredith Grey: Would we lie to you?
Dr. George O'Malley: Yes!

1.05

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Voting:

*bazinga -
*T S O - JacobSavage, Desperado [2]
*Desperado - ArcAngel9 [1]
*ArcAngel9 -
*penguin_alien -
*Squirrel Girl - bazinga, Squirrel Girl [2]
*shos - RationalMadman [1]
*JacobSavage - T S O [1]
*RationalMadman - penguin_alien, shos [2]

Not Voting:

[0]

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-11-21 16:22:00)

[JacobSavage]

Why for that post immidetly above it and I'll keep it their because of posts like #228

[RationalMadman]

all hop on the shos BW

[shos]

Alright. Assuming 1 targets 2, 2->3, etc.

1, 3, 5, 8 die. D2...what you do?

[RationalMadman]

[Desperado]

Alright. Assuming 1 targets 2, 2->3, etc.

1, 3, 5, 8 die. D2...what you do?

This question is retarded. Were they all town? What was the result of today's lynch?

More to the point, what would YOU do? You seem to be poopooing the plan without offering an alternative. What if we all choose our own actions and four people died anyway? This is the only way we can guarantee accountability for everyone's actions.

[RationalMadman]

desperado has told the scum off and put him in his place.

[Desperado]

what do you think about we go through this day and pic two most scummy targets, and then, half targets one and half targets the other? or 3-3-3?

^This is not an alternative btw. All this plan does is let scum steer the day conversation and hide at night.

Unvote
Vote: Shos

[Desperado]

if each of us targets the one above them, that means that quack doc and CPR doc are 100% killing. in such a case, 2 kills will surely happen. mafia can theoretically stop one if they target the CPR's target, but meh.

Like did you even read the two games that we linked where the town followed bazinga's plan and won? No more than 2 people died on any given night in either game.

[RationalMadman]

haha yeeeeeeeah BW shos! tomorrow get angel!

[shos]

Alright. Assuming 1 targets 2, 2->3, etc.

1, 3, 5, 8 die. D2...what you do?

This question is retarded. Were they all town? What was the result of today's lynch?

More to the point, what would YOU do? You seem to be poopooing the plan without offering an alternative. What if we all choose our own actions and four people died anyway? This is the only way we can guarantee accountability for everyone's actions.

if each of us targets the one above them, that means that quack doc and CPR doc are 100% killing. in such a case, 2 kills will surely happen. mafia can theoretically stop one if they target the CPR's target, but meh.

Like did you even read the two games that we linked where the town followed bazinga's plan and won? No more than 2 people died on any given night in either game.

firstly, I said what I'd do. I have given an alternative. I will discuss it soon.

what you are doing is making sure that no doc docs the CPR doc's target. so that's 1 random death. Quack doctor hits and nobody docs his target. that's 2 random deaths by now. weak doc docs *someone*, which is 25% to be scum, so that's 2.25 deaths. scum shoot someone which they KNOW will not be protected - they have 1 choice at least, most likely 2. so overall: 3.25 kills on average; of which, 1.25 is 100% to be town, and the other 2 are perfectly described by 'gambling'.

I have not read the game(s?) you linked completely, no. I read only the action results. the fact that town got lucky in one game does not affect the mathematics of this game, and this truly truly sucks.

what do you think about we go through this day and pic two most scummy targets, and then, half targets one and half targets the other? or 3-3-3?

^This is not an alternative btw. All this plan does is let scum steer the day conversation and hide at night.

Unvote
Vote: Shos

And what are you talking about here. let scum steer the day conversation? that's pretty much like saying one shouldn't ever lynch anygame, since scum can steer the lynch the way they want. and why is this not an alternative? and what made you vote other than madmen's repeated 'jump the bandwagon' posts?

[shos]

kay I'm stopping in start of page 8. what I have to say is this:
if each of us targets the one above them, that means that quack doc and CPR doc are 100% killing. in such a case, 2 kills will surely happen. mafia can theoretically stop one if they target the CPR's target, but meh.

this means that mathematically, we have good chance of hitting at least one scum. the bad thing is these chances aren't that good, so we also ahve good chances of losing three peeps in N1.

what do you think about we go through this day and pic two most scummy targets, and then, half targets one and half targets the other? or 3-3-3?

nope, it defeats the purpose. I would rather stick with something that has worked before.

it worked by luck, and only by luck. if you give me any scenario where, without being lucky, you get any information from doing that, I'll give you a cookie.

[Desperado]

Shos, your plan is to nominate the three scummiest players (that aren't the lynch, so the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th most scummy players) and then split our actions between them.

^This is not going to accomplish anything.

It only worked by luck...twice?

[shos]

I saw just one of those games. in it, scum did not even submit a nightkill, town was lucky enough to lynch their CPR doc, have their vig shoot scum, and have the last scum claim scum on D2. so yes, luck.

reference:

Spoiler: micro112

Fucking Majiffy. I hate you. This was such a good game. Majiffy was Scum.

Game Notes:
Doctor Seanald
Weak Doctor(Dies if targets scum) pirate mollie
CPR Doctor (Saves from NK; kills no NK) kiwieagle
Paranoid Doctor (Jailkeeper) tbossMaestro
Quack Doctor (Like a vig) Om of the Nom
Naive Doctor (Does nothing) longer name
Nurse(Now CPR) vintermute
Mafia Goon Majiffy
Mafia Goon jasonT1981


DEAD:
Day 1 Lynch:
CPR Doctor kiwieagle
Night 1:
Mafai Goon jasonT1981


viewtopic.php?f=83&t=25233&p=4653138#p4653138

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/YSqQr9rbWNc

Night 1 Actions

Targets:

Seanald: Tboss
pirate mollie: om of the nom
tboss: longer name
om of the nom: jasonT1981
longer name: pirate mollie
Vintermute: tboss

Mafia NK: Did not send one in

Resolution N1:
longer name does nothing
Tboss jailkeeps longer name
Seanald protects tboss
pirate mollie does not die as he did not target a goon.
om of the nom kills jasonT1981.
Vinter CPR's tboss, but tboss was protected by the doc[/post]

couldn't find the other link you posted.

[shos]

eh crap, mod, can you make that [/post] become [/spoiler]?

and uh, my plan will result in a death of some of the most scummy people, and in case some of them don't die and others do, we will be able to say what's going on: based on the number of kills know if the CPR/quack is in both groups or just in one, if there are two deaths not on the trio then one is scum having killed the weak doc, easy to determine which kill is the mafia's nightkill, etc.

[RationalMadman]

shos shut up ur too noisy

[Desperado]

eh crap, mod, can you make that [/post] become [/spoiler]?

and uh, my plan will result in a death of some of the most scummy people, and in case some of them don't die and others do, we will be able to say what's going on: based on the number of kills know if the CPR/quack is in both groups or just in one, if there are two deaths not on the trio then one is scum having killed the weak doc, easy to determine which kill is the mafia's nightkill, etc.

Can you link to a completed game where this strategy was used and the town won?

[RationalMadman]

I am bored and here is a good song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmbvQLrjUas

[T S O]

RM, please stop talking for a bit.

shos is starting to convince me but I'm pretty sure bazinga is Town anyway.