NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[sangres]

Hey Cabd, you know what's making me a little nervout?

Nervous even.

[MC Maraca]

Dear Cephrir,

I never left. The guy you replaced, Rank, is my brother from another mother. We've been playing mafia together for like 10 years. Him replacing out means he was scum. Means you are scum. You should tread carefully, because between you and FratBoys, I've got two mafia and its still early on D1

Look. I'm not lynching orcinus on this shaky a basis. I thought there might be something to that but it's not sufficient. If TIP wants to stop pussyfooting around and come out and claim daycop, he can come out and fucking claim daycop. It's not like there was anything subtle going on there and I refuse to believe anyone can have possibly not noticed it.

In conclusion, no.

Love,
Ceph

If tippy claimed daycop that would be quite nice given the whole "normal game illegal role" thing so there's that. I'm in full support of the mentality that the case is based upon faulty grounds, though.

Don't replace out. I'm also really angry right now.

I'm taking a step back and not posting here for a bit.

^In case anyone thought they were scum, I've yet to see scum-bro get this heated ever. He's calm and cool and collected, flows with the town. Blowing several pages up with pissed off fevor is not something he'd do.

Hey Cabd, you know what's making me a little nervout?

That I haven't been around? Sorry to disappoint you, my love, but lynx came over and she's a tad more real than mafiascum.net is.

V/LA done.

I'll vote for whichever of o_to or AFB is necessary to lynch, since I believe fairly solidy at this point that likeabauss is town. If either target happens to be town we can just lynch him Day 2 since I see no way there's a bus here.

...Lol. You lining up lynches?

Uhmm...

I'll come back at a later date if it's alright with you guys

That was mara but I can't blame her. She can't stand town on town ATE, and that's exactly what that AFB-Guy fight looked like.

Frat Bros
Guyett

Town BTW. Would like for this fight to diffuse now, and for this conversation to not be taken any further.

Oh hey she beat me to it!

Do I need to get proactive here? I am starting to think I need to get proactive here. This day is going to hell in a handbasket.

You do. I'll make you a map:
Start----->Realize your scumread on maracabd is wrong------->lynch Jacob-scum----->party

VOTE: Angry Frat Br0s

I think Orcinus is town and I follow his reasoning.

This guy is way too defensive in his own right, so my vote goes here.

You do not get to just start posting. You are going to explain what in the sweet, everloving fuck you have been doing for three quarters of this game.

I don't know about the flu thing, but I didn't like the lack of followup to a supposed "reaction test" set of posts.

Pretty much that.

Y'know what likeabauss? Fine. You'll get what you want. If Orci flips scum then... well done. If he flips town then you get lynched. Alright?

VOTE: Orci

This makes me physically ill.

VOTE: Angry Frat Br0s

I think Orcinus is town and I follow his reasoning.

This guy is way too defensive in his own right, so my vote goes here.

You do not get to just start posting. You are going to explain what in the sweet, everloving fuck you have been doing for three quarters of this game.

HEY RC

HEY

LISTEN

TALK WORDS NOW

THANKS

I laughed.

Ok so I'm going to keep playing. Not sure I like some of the people on the AFB wagon but I still think he's scum :/

^Tell me scum guyett would have made that post. Go on, I'll wait.

It's scummy for him to ignore me when I push on him, although slow Jacob reactions wouldn't exactly be a surprise.

What was this even supposed to mean?

Man I love the deep personal and unique insight you bring to this game.

Summary of JacobSavage's iso:

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Dammit ceph you owe me a new can of soda and possibly a new set of monitor wipes.

I don't like the above post.

you know what? your opinion doesn't matter

if i were a vig i'd vig ur ass so we dont have the breathe the same air

^Okay so yes is town then.


p-edit: you impatient lout, if you want answers here I am.

[sangres]

Hey Cabd, you know what's making me a little nervout?

That I haven't been around? Sorry to disappoint you, my love, but lynx came over and she's a tad more real than mafiascum.net is.

p-edit: you impatient lout, if you want answers here I am.

That's not it. That's not even close.

Let's deal with them one by one. y u no reaction test?

[MC Maraca]

It's time for reads lists.

Town:

17. TheIrishPope

(Meta from both of us. You can take this read to the bank and cash it)

4. sangres

(Read is solidifying into steady town, subject to change but like it here right now.)

8. Guyett

(See TIP read, formerly null)

2. Cephrir

(His paranoia about me while justified, is wrong this time around. Still town.)

11. Angry Frat BROs

(That posting by BRO was town as fuck, formerly null)

16. yessiree

(His response to our vote was town as fuck IMO, same with the ATE things; formerly null)

Bauss

(Wrong does not a scum make.)

Null:

15. Toomai

(This has slid down from town for the terrible posting recently)

Orcinus

(I'll have ffery sort this one, mostly, if I satisfy myself of fferytown. He's fooled me once (xenoblade) and I've fooled him once (NY165) but I don't know for sure yet which is which. His utter righteousness did ring kinda legit.)

6. MVP

(Now that I know your other two heads (i think) I'm not able to give you the same blank town-check as I would have thinking it was notsci and players like him. Interesting group, though, I must say, if my guess is right.)

7. caledfwitch

(A meta check shows this lurkfuckery is not alignment indicative. Formerly scum.)

14. RadiantCowbells

(ceph has questions. Answer the evil looking man with the claws. What did your reaction test ACTUALLY do for you?)

Scum:

3. Sakura Hana

(Her lack of engagement except to pop in and get a free post or two is not something I expect from sakura as town, formerly null.)

5. JacobSavage

(he's posting elsewhere and lurking the fuck out of this game. Just like 165. His ISO is shit.)

12. Hermy

(So where's that fucking "serious content" you promised pages ago?)

Holy fuck, this player is in this game?!? Since when?!?:

13. PeregrineV

(Still nothing holy shit come on and play, pere)

Updated

[MC Maraca]

Hey Cabd, you know what's making me a little nervout?

That I haven't been around? Sorry to disappoint you, my love, but lynx came over and she's a tad more real than mafiascum.net is.

p-edit: you impatient lout, if you want answers here I am.

That's not it. That's not even close.

Let's deal with them one by one. y u no reaction test?

You try making a day's work of reaction testing in this noise. Not to mention, it's day one in a normal game. I can't go claiming something amazing when we're restricted to normal roles. Fakehammers require a L-1 wagon that I'm on it near the start. Most other gambits don't work util several days in. I'm sure I'll manage something for you soon enough, so you'll just have to wait and see (and probably play along when you see it).

[sangres]

Hey Cabd, you know what's making me a little nervout?

That I haven't been around? Sorry to disappoint you, my love, but lynx came over and she's a tad more real than mafiascum.net is.

p-edit: you impatient lout, if you want answers here I am.

That's not it. That's not even close.

Let's deal with them one by one. y u no reaction test?

You try making a day's work of reaction testing in this noise. Not to mention, it's day one in a normal game. I can't go claiming something amazing when we're restricted to normal roles. Fakehammers require a L-1 wagon that I'm on it near the start. Most other gambits don't work util several days in. I'm sure I'll manage something for you soon enough, so you'll just have to wait and see (and probably play along when you see it).

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

[likeabauss]

Sorry to hear that Yessiree.

TIP and Sangres, will you support a FratBros lynch with me? Take into consideration the strength of my read on Rank's slot and that I'm still pushing a FratBros lynch.

[Cephrir]

Hey Cabd, you know what's making me a little nervout?

That I haven't been around? Sorry to disappoint you, my love, but lynx came over and she's a tad more real than mafiascum.net is.

p-edit: you impatient lout, if you want answers here I am.

That's not it. That's not even close.

Let's deal with them one by one. y u no reaction test?

You try making a day's work of reaction testing in this noise. Not to mention, it's day one in a normal game. I can't go claiming something amazing when we're restricted to normal roles. Fakehammers require a L-1 wagon that I'm on it near the start. Most other gambits don't work util several days in. I'm sure I'll manage something for you soon enough, so you'll just have to wait and see (and probably play along when you see it).

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

Took the words out of my mouth. More coherent response to the above posts in a bit.

[MC Maraca]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

[likeabauss]

And if that's Cabd, when you have time and if you'd be so kind, I'd like answers to my post 865. To clarify, those weren't rhetorical questions.

[sangres]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Maybe so, but you know that I at least will play along if I recognize what's up. I didn't realize there are so many players who know your little ways in this playerlist.

It seems a little premature to be handing us a townread.

[JacobSavage]

For someone who prides themselves on meta you are seriously off.


Also since when was I lurking in NY165 I thought I was posting more frequently that usual...

[sangres]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Maybe so, but you know that I at least will play along if I recognize what's up. I didn't realize there are so many players who know your little ways in this playerlist.

It seems a little premature to be handing us a townread.

To elaborate, the people you're suggesting you most want to test are precisely the people who aren't likely to step unawares into one of your snares whether it's familiar or not. And what about the rest of the player list?

[sangres]

Frat Bros get mad when called dicks

but it's okay for them to call others retards and assholes

#logic

This has nothing at all to do with the game and only serves to piss people off.

Y'know what likeabauss? Fine. You'll get what you want. If Orci flips scum then... well done. If he flips town then you get lynched. Alright?

VOTE: Orci

Thanks man! But I'm actually pushing to lynch AngryFratBros for today. Orci is also scum, but FratBoys goes first in my book.

Alright then.

VOTE: AngryFratBros

Let's just hope this read of yours is correct. I'm almost 100% sure you're town, so hopefully you won't get lynched the next day...

Come back to orc.

TIP and Sangres, will you support a FratBros lynch with me? Take into consideration the strength of my read on Rank's slot and that I'm still pushing a FratBros lynch.

I would much rather lynch orcinus; BRO is normally pretty fucking calm as scum and I learned that him flying off the handle when pushed strongly is a towntell for him. Meanwhile, all that orc has accomplished is a discrediting your past with Rank a bit.

[RadiantCowbells]

No way, Orcinus is not happening.

[Cephrir]

V/LA done.

I'll vote for whichever of o_to or AFB is necessary to lynch, since I believe fairly solidy at this point that likeabauss is town. If either target happens to be town we can just lynch him Day 2 since I see no way there's a bus here.

...Lol. You lining up lynches?

Quite possibly. This guy's been plummeting (Chrome says that has one T apparently? o.o) down my scumlist since the initial one I made privately on page 34.

Do I need to get proactive here? I am starting to think I need to get proactive here. This day is going to hell in a handbasket.

You do. I'll make you a map:
Start----->Realize your scumread on maracabd is wrong------->lynch Jacob-scum----->party

It's only a tentative scumread, but I'm gonna skip step 2, for now at least.

Summary of JacobSavage's iso:

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Dammit ceph you owe me a new can of soda and possibly a new set of monitor wipes.

General PSA only tangentially related to discussions that are currently occurring: Genuine emotion is not necessarily a free town pass even if you're right. Said the guy who just used this logic to argue Hermy is town, but still.

[Cephrir]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Except for when you fakehammer multiple times in one game? Then again, you were scum.

[Cephrir]

For someone who prides themselves on meta you are seriously off.


Also since when was I lurking in NY165 I thought I was posting more frequently that usual...

Please elaborate on this apparently lovely meta you have. You are allowed to self-meta because I am demanding it.

Sorry to hear that Yessiree.

TIP and Sangres, will you support a FratBros lynch with me? Take into consideration the strength of my read on Rank's slot and that I'm still pushing a FratBros lynch.

Have you considered doing something other than mindlessly rounding up votes?

No way, Orcinus is not happening.

You do realize Cabd just asked you a question, which was an extension of my previous question, which you didn't really answer?

[MC Maraca]

Do I fucking look like mara to you?

Is Mara not a head in that Hydra? Cabd and Mara? Correct me if I'm wrong. My apologies if I am.

That was not why I posted that and you know it. If you're going to only engage one head of this hydra, fine, whatever, but you've got to accept that we're not always online at the same time, and asking an "in the moment" question when that head isn't there is gonna make me think you're having head confusion whiplash.

You reframed the logic instead of answering my questions. If I'm the most knowledgeable guy in the room about Rank, why was your first reaction to discredit?

Does most knowledgable on somebody make you a god at reading them? I'm trying to boil down the logical steps that made you go from a townread on rank to "omg rank slot is scum" when I've yet to see any evidence even sugguesting that notion. I could say "oh well ffery and I play a ton together, my read of her is perfect everyone sheep me or claim scum" but it's not. We've gotten each other wrong several times.

If you were town, why wouldn't you push on Orcinus instead of discredit my argument?

I can make silly questions too. Watch. "If you were town, wouldn't you explain your thought process about this read, instead of just asking for sheep?" I discredit moronic plans/arguments/shit all the time. I did it to varsoon in blade, I'm doing it to you here.

Do you have such a strong town read on that slot that you instantly thought "No way, Bauss is scum and/or retarded."

Do I have to have a strong townread on a slot to think that an argument about their alignment is shit? I do not.

I mean, its D1 and us townies need to find scum. All you did in this instance is discredit a potentially valuable read (or piece of info about player/slot) instead of exploring it.

This it filler so I'm ignoring it, by the way.

[MC Maraca]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Except for when you fakehammer multiple times in one game? Then again, you were scum.

Thirdkoopa and...??? I only recall fakehammering once. Am I forgetting one? I remember the fakehammer+"oh hey shadi bulba is vengeful and shot you" as my major gambits of that game, the "roleblocker who lets cop and vig use their roles" thing aside.

[MC Maraca]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Maybe so, but you know that I at least will play along if I recognize what's up. I didn't realize there are so many players who know your little ways in this playerlist.

My braging mouth constantly talking about them everywhere doesn't help much either with flying under the radar. Eventually, me NOT gambiting will be a gambit in and of itself.

It seems a little premature to be handing us a townread.

Too bad. Deal with it.

[sangres]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Maybe so, but you know that I at least will play along if I recognize what's up. I didn't realize there are so many players who know your little ways in this playerlist.

My braging mouth constantly talking about them everywhere doesn't help much either with flying under the radar. Eventually, me NOT gambiting will be a gambit in and of itself.

It seems a little premature to be handing us a townread.

Too bad. Deal with it.

No. You've done nothing to actually sort me, and if I've done anything to obvtown so far it's escaped my notice. If your sangres read is based on my play then I don't see how the hell you could have us as top tier town at this point.

[MC Maraca]

I already explained part of it. As for the rest, wouldn't you like to know?

[Cephrir]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Except for when you fakehammer multiple times in one game? Then again, you were scum.

Thirdkoopa and...??? I only recall fakehammering once. Am I forgetting one? I remember the fakehammer+"oh hey shadi bulba is vengeful and shot you" as my major gambits of that game, the "roleblocker who lets cop and vig use their roles" thing aside.

Maybe I misremembered. There were certainly several fakehammers, and I just attributed them all to you, I guess.

[Cephrir]

I don't like this. Mentioning specific tests/gambits up front like this looks like it would take them out of your toolkit.

I don't usually use the same gambit twice. Especially in a field of players that are familiar with me and my play. Even more so when the ones I'd be testing are those players. You'll have to wait and see.

Except for when you fakehammer multiple times in one game? Then again, you were scum.

Thirdkoopa and...??? I only recall fakehammering once. Am I forgetting one? I remember the fakehammer+"oh hey shadi bulba is vengeful and shot you" as my major gambits of that game, the "roleblocker who lets cop and vig use their roles" thing aside.

Maybe I misremembered. There were certainly several fakehammers, and I just attributed them all to you, I guess.