A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?


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Post Post #4000 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:09 pm

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Ceph is town. So is kanye. I'll need to re-read again to see how makes the most sense next as scum but one of {PnJ, Alch, Agar, elle} is where I'm leaning so far.

In post 3708, Tammy wrote:There is something I want to think about with this claim though. And for who asked? Some people do think that you should investigate null reads, and not scum reads. I wish he'd have investigated me though, I'd at least be able to tell if he was telling the truth.
Tammy, do you have any inside info on the setup? Do you know if it's two multifaction scum teams?

Also, has your read on Alch changed? Is he still very-town in your books - aka would you oppose a lynch on him today?
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Post Post #4001 (ISO) » Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:17 pm

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In post 4000, ooba wrote:Ceph is town. So is kanye. I'll need to re-read again to see how makes the most sense next as scum but one of {PnJ, Alch, Agar, elle} is where I'm leaning so far
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I should probably add Garruk to this list too.
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Post Post #4002 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:28 am

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In post 3940, Katsuki wrote:If I die overnight please instalynch tierce tomorrow no questions asked.
Hmmmmmm

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Post Post #4003 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:28 am

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In post 4000, ooba wrote:{PnJ, Alch, Agar, elle} i
I think you'll get more than 1 here.
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Post Post #4004 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:44 am

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In post 4000, ooba wrote:

In post 3708, Tammy wrote:There is something I want to think about with this claim though. And for who asked? Some people do think that you should investigate null reads, and not scum reads. I wish he'd have investigated me though, I'd at least be able to tell if he was telling the truth.
Tammy, do you have any inside info on the setup? Do you know if it's two multifaction scum teams?
Unfortunately no. I do have a certain means of verifying if I was targeted though, so that's where that comes from.

As far as other question, I don't have much time right now and need to look back at some things.

One thing I really want to know though is what day Tierce got the coin and when she gave Alchemist the name.
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Post Post #4005 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:45 am

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Spoiler:
In post 3744, SafetyDance wrote:
In post 3089, quadz08 wrote:*sigh* basic mafia theory, man. You out tracks if they give you pseudo-guilties, not pseudo-innocents, unless another claim contradicts your results or it's fullclaim time.

Curious to see how he responds to Garruk's question.
In post 3128, quadz08 wrote:What's there to say? We don't know what SafetyDance actually meant, and I'm not particularly concerned about him possibly claiming to have roleblocked me. I'll freak out about it when people start voting me for it. *shrug*
Here is says he isn't concerned but if he knows he's been roleblocked, why would he not be wanting to lynch me here, not a day and 70 posts after when a wagon formed?

Well pleased people listened to this, albeit when Kanye brought it up. Lol at the fact I've targeted scum 2 fara theme games in a row and they didn't have the good grace to submit a kill that night. :D

Lol at Garruk's accusations of bussing. Do you think going after Kanye is easier than Naut? :roll:

If you notice your own ISO, your day 4 play consisted of sheeping everyone on me early on, unvoting for no reason,eagerly getting back on when Quadz pressed his 1v1 attempt and extreme defensiveness when someone voted you and you were in no threat of dying. Oh and disappearing before lynch, leaving your vote camped.

vote: Garruk


Can't believe people are having a go at Shadoweh for killing Katsuki. Not only are you applying hindsight and not offering an alternative opinion as to what you would have done, She said she would do it, where was the disagreement then? Shad, did you know it would go over the global roleblock? Can anyone confirm (by receiving the Titus investigation message or lack of action going through) that what Titus claimed actually happened? Have to wait for her to appear now.

Not sure about the last Will stuff, looks like different days, so could one of them most likely be from SM?

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Post Post #4006 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:48 am

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In post 3970, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 3967, Garruk Relentless wrote:Kanye I read your ISO over the night phase & I think you're scum.
???

i have no idea how you could reach this conclusion.
In post 3985, Tammy wrote:You mean besides me bleeding fucking town since page one? No, I don't have an idea.
In post 3992, Cephrir wrote:perhaps if you were reading the thread you would have seen that a) I'm town and b) I talked about why I suspect you yesterday
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Post Post #4007 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:53 am

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VOTE: Titus

Let's go with I blocked Titus on N3 when there was no kill and no other apparent shenanigans.
Let's go with her claim either didn't work or was bullshit.

Kthxbai.
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Post Post #4008 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:02 am

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Her claim worked, or part of it at least.
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Post Post #4009 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:03 am

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In post 4007, AGar wrote:VOTE: Titus

Let's go with I blocked Titus on N3 when there was no kill and no other apparent shenanigans.
Let's go with her claim either didn't work or was bullshit.

Kthxbai.
so from your perspective what would you have expected to happen differently had you not blocked titus?
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Post Post #4010 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:11 am

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or more specifically, what would you have expected to happen if you had blocked her and she had been telling the truth about her ability?
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Post Post #4011 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:13 am

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Day 5, Vc 2

PrideandJoy (2) -
kanyeknowsbest, Cephrir
Garruk Relentless (1) -
Messiah Complex, SafetyDance
Cephrir (1) -
PrideandJoy
The Alchemist (1) -
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Titus (1) -
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Not voting (11) -
Alfred Borden, elleheathen, Garuk Relentless, Goat on a Raft, Nautilius, ooba, Shadoweh, The Alchemist, Tammy, Tierce, Titus

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Post Post #4012 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:18 am

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In post 4009, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 4007, AGar wrote:VOTE: Titus

Let's go with I blocked Titus on N3 when there was no kill and no other apparent shenanigans.
Let's go with her claim either didn't work or was bullshit.

Kthxbai.
so from your perspective what would you have expected to happen differently had you not blocked titus?
In post 4010, kanyeknowsbest wrote:or more specifically, what would you have expected to happen if you had blocked her and she had been telling the truth about her ability?
I blocked her N3.
N4 is when she was supposed to use her shot.

But regardless, I still blocked her on N3, no kill occurred on N3, and there has been no other claims to substantiate any other explanations, Tierce's absorbing a shot was actually dropped by her after finding out she had been vanillia-ized.

I soft-claimed this yesterday, but then we got caught up in SD/quadz and lynched quadz so this kinda fell by the wayside, but I'm really just convinced here so that's a thing.
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Post Post #4013 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:34 am

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ah. in that case what are your thoughts about the lack of kill n1 and n4?
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Post Post #4014 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:35 am

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and does the truthfulness of her claim affect your belief that your block ate the kill?
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Post Post #4015 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:09 pm

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Ok, so the PoE work I was doing basically led to these dudes being included in the town bloc I had proposed:

kanye
ooba
AGar (want to talk to Nacho and ooba about this one though)
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Tammy
SafetyDance (post quadz flip addition off the top of my head)
Shadoweh

Nowhere near enough to narrow things down significantly but with a second scum flip, this should be pretty easy.
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Post Post #4016 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:10 pm

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Hmm, there was something else I wanted to talk about and I can't remember it for the life of me (this post is mostly a note for me to go and remember).
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Post Post #4017 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:40 pm

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In post 4015, Alfred Borden wrote:AGar (
want to talk to Nacho and ooba about this one though
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Why?
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Post Post #4018 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:41 pm

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Because they disagree, I want to see where they're coming from on it, and honestly I'm more willing to trust their opinions on things more than my own at this point.
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Post Post #4019 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:42 pm

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And yet Nacho is not on your bloc.

In post 4012, AGar wrote:Tierce's absorbing a shot was actually dropped by her after finding out she had been vanillia-ized.
Of note--I already knew I had been vanillized, didn't see a point in revealing it until elleheathen started fretting over what she had done.
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Post Post #4020 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:43 pm

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Nacho's one of the dudes I've been thinking of putting up there after the quadz flip, I just need to reread to make sure.
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Post Post #4021 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:44 pm

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Tierce - what day did you get the coin and when did you give him the name?
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Post Post #4022 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:47 pm

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I mean, sure, Nacho had that super Town streak of posts earlier in the game and that push on quadz was fantastic. I'm endlessly paranoid. But I'm kind of confused why you want his opinion when he's not firmly in your bloc.

Tammy: D3, N3. He had already handed me the coin when we were doing the give-the-coin-to-ooba dance.
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Post Post #4023 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:48 pm

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Wait, was it N3, or did I give the name on D3? Let me check.
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Post Post #4024 (ISO) » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:48 pm

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D3, D3. My bad.
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