Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Harakiri]

Unfortunately not, i didnt even realize it was up for auction and i just let Nat decide what to do with the bids.

~Sakura Hana

[Lost Butterfly]

Off to bed, but here are where my reads are at:

Town:
Harakiri
Lord Mhork
Garuda (although I don't like their passivity lately)

Probably town:
PeregrineV
pieguyn
upside down
Voidedmafia
Muffin

Dunno:
baldeagle
Espeonage

Suspicious:
KingdomAces
Nero
ProHawk
BBmolla

There's also a mystery read that might change places depending on later developments. I can explain any of them if someone's interested (the "dunno"s were almost in "probably town", but upon reflection I downgraded them).

[Voidedmafia]

Ud, that was way too shallow to be seriously considered like that. The level of shallowness in my mind was less than what pie said it was, but I could tell that it wasn't a

scummy

accusation, just a bad one.

Also, just because those kind of responses are your "thing" doesn't make them good.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

Ud, that was way too shallow to be seriously considered like that. The level of shallowness in my mind was less than what pie said it was, but I could tell that it wasn't a

scummy

accusation, just a bad one.

Also, just because those kind of responses are your "thing" doesn't make them good.

I'm not sure what that first line is in response to.

And it's hilarious that you of all people are saying that one-liner comments are bad.

[KingdomAces]

I sent all of my money to Pie last night, and if you need me to say it again on N2 I sent $140 to LB.

How is saying an argument looks like TvS without specifying which is which a scumtell? Pretty much whenever there is a massive argument, at least someone says that, if not multiple people.

I have nothing new in terms of reads. Since I'm apparently the only one who is at all suspicious of Garuda, re-examining that is going to be my first priority when I get the time.

[pieguyn]

yeah I already said the first one was stupid. but you saying I'm trying to make mhork "look bad" follows from me being mafia in the first place, making this logic circular.

the second one is you twisting my words around. I'm not even the one who came up with the idea of scum apathy

the third one is bullshit. the thing that's suspicious is when scum claims something is scum v. town, pushes a lynch on one of them, then goes "oops wrong one" and pushes a lynch on the other one. I was not doing that. I was blatantly expressing that I had no fkin idea what to think of that interaction and moving on.

for the fourth one, I already said I wanted to avoid instawagoning voided. my point was there is no way in hell that opinion came from a town perspective. it's not a reasonable way of thinking about it. from a town perspective, mafia is the only one who knows what the hell is up with the red auctions. so when Seanald posted that it should set off a major red flag.

there's also the fact that he was basically like "hey he COULD be derptown", implying he wasn't even sure about his read. in that situation I really doubt it'd be possible to not be sure, due to major tells like the post about red auction. you'd have to be pretty sure he's derptown to not vote him with shit like that going on, and from his post, he wasn't

yes I did answer the question. I know I read a post from you mentioning fluff. 132

It's like you were expecting muffin to come in today seeking out those who pushed Seanald the hardest

this is exactly what I was expecting him to do. if he's scum, it'd be a nice way of throwing suspicion on people for doing something that's perfectly reasonable, just because "omg he was town". but rather than waiting to see if he'd go for it, I figured it'd be better to just out it immediately cause I wasn't sure when he'd be online and I don't feel like waiting (plus there's a good chance deadline will be activated, then there wouldn't be any time for that). nice scumpainting attempt tho

and no I'm not going to bother with the busywork of going through whole whole damn ISO and quoting every post like that you made

try harder

[Voidedmafia]

That was in response to your "straw that broke the camel's back."

And if that makes you feel better about your one-liners, k then.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

How is saying an argument looks like TvS without specifying which is which a scumtell? Pretty much whenever there is a massive argument, at least someone says that, if not multiple people.

Are you serious? It's the easiest way to fencesit and get two mislynches without getting your hands dirty.

[Lost Butterfly]

Oh, also, Empire, be realistic. You're never actually going to finish a "meta report" of Peregrine at this rate. And no one is interested in a wall of text with links upon links. Why don't you just write 2-3 paragraphs on why you think this looks like her?

Also, a meta report I'd be much more interested in is one on Nero. I still want specifics from you and penguin_alien on why this his townself. Penguin in particular given her slot's sudden stance shift on him.

Oh, that reminds me. Ghostly Penguin is in Probably Town based 100% on Ghostlin's rant about the plan (the rest of their play is more "Dunno").

(That said, while I'm at it, Muffin, which players in particular do you think are scum defending Nero by calling this his town meta?)

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

That was in response to your "straw that broke the camel's back."

Do you understand what that phrase means? No fucking duh it was a small thing. A straw is a small thing. That is how the phrase works - there was so much shit on the camel's back already that one straw was too much and the camel collapsed. What the fuck are you even saying right now?

[Lost Butterfly]

EBWOP: 2-3 paragraphs describing whether you think Peregrine is playing more like town!Pere or scum!Pere.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

yeah I already said the first one was stupid. but you saying I'm trying to make mhork "look bad" follows from me being mafia in the first place, making this logic circular.

the second one is you twisting my words around. I'm not even the one who came up with the idea of scum apathy

the third one is bullshit. the thing that's suspicious is when scum claims something is scum v. town, pushes a lynch on one of them, then goes "oops wrong one" and pushes a lynch on the other one. I was not doing that. I was blatantly expressing that I had no fkin idea what to think of that interaction and moving on.

for the fourth one, I already said I wanted to avoid instawagoning voided. my point was there is no way in hell that opinion came from a town perspective. it's not a reasonable way of thinking about it. from a town perspective, mafia is the only one who knows what the hell is up with the red auctions. so when Seanald posted that it should set off a major red flag.

there's also the fact that he was basically like "hey he COULD be derptown", implying he wasn't even sure about his read. in that situation I really doubt it'd be possible to not be sure, due to major tells like the post about red auction. you'd have to be pretty sure he's derptown to not vote him with shit like that going on, and from his post, he wasn't

yes I did answer the question. I know I read a post from you mentioning fluff. 132

It's like you were expecting muffin to come in today seeking out those who pushed Seanald the hardest

this is exactly what I was expecting him to do. if he's scum, it'd be a nice way of throwing suspicion on people for doing something that's perfectly reasonable, just because "omg he was town". but rather than waiting to see if he'd go for it, I figured it'd be better to just out it immediately cause I wasn't sure when he'd be online and I don't feel like waiting (plus there's a good chance deadline will be activated, then there wouldn't be any time for that). nice scumpainting attempt tho

and no I'm not going to bother with the busywork of going through whole whole damn ISO and quoting every post like that you made

try harder

Fuck off. You can't just dismiss everything I say as "that's bullshit, I can't be bothered with busywork so I'm not going to answer any of these accusations".

[Ghostly Penguin]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Seanald

I don't like this, particularly with what BB says afterwards.

Ffery, do you agree or disagree that Nero and I need to be sorted tomorrow in some way, shape, or form? I'm just beginning to have a sinking feeling that we're all that's going to be talked about.

I'm all ears on why you'd think this would necessarily be the case. I'm not seeing a Day 4 trajectory in your direction. This concerns me a bit: it seems to indicate you know you're playing fucking poor and have no interest except by setting up a 1v1 with Nero.

Whether that's to deflect suspicion or you think Nero's so incredibly crazy go nuts scum it's pretty damn hard to determine.

Currently PA's got me on the collar re:Nero because after our pressure on him, he acted more like Town Nero to her, even though his contribution seemed more contortion than anything else. Which is fine, because BB's dropping scum tells, yo.

Was I allowed to bid on anything? Would have won doctor if I could

Abductor x 1
Auction Detective x 2
Austerity Measures x 1
Bulletproof x 2
Coroner x 2
Extra Vote x 1
Federal Reserve Chairman x 1
Governor x 1
Gravedigger x 1
Love Potion x 1
Market Analyst x 3
Medium x 3
Roleblocker x 3
Self-Watch x 1
Tailor x 3

I bid $5 on all these

Right. So...why would you advertise $5 on say...Governor, Tailor and Self-Watch (which IMHO is a horrible ability unless you manage to get someone to Medium you or catch someone you weren't expecting to use an non-lethal ability on you). This seems all over the place, and with just enough advertising on just enough Town abilites to look Town.

Vote: Molla

[Voidedmafia]

That was in response to your "straw that broke the camel's back."

Do you understand what that phrase means? No fucking duh it was a small thing. A straw is a small thing. That is how the phrase works - there was so much shit on the camel's back already that one straw was too much and the camel collapsed. What the fuck are you even saying right now?

What

I'M

saying is that using that as your proverbial straw (and yes I know what the phrase means) is just stupid. Really stupid.

[Ghostly Penguin]

BBMolla I love how you bid a lot on everything but wage freeze

~Sakura Hana

If you're going to scum claim, go all fucking in?

[Ghostly Penguin]

Nothing to claim, because we fucking dropped the ball. We were going to drop $5 on:
Auction Detective
Medium
Neighborizer

but that didn't happen. .

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

I'll respond to the bits that anger me the least first.

yes I did answer the question. I know I read a post from you mentioning fluff. 132

I don't recall you answering this before now, and I looked through your iso. You quoted me asking it and gave a non-comital answer - "I don't remember. It's not relevant."
Also 132 is not me calling baldeagle out for posting fluff, which should be obvious from context - I was saying that he can't post shit like 128 calling other people's posts useless and then post those other ones I quoted.

At this point, I don't care about the actual question anymore and was calling you out for dodging the question twice.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

That was in response to your "straw that broke the camel's back."

Do you understand what that phrase means? No fucking duh it was a small thing. A straw is a small thing. That is how the phrase works - there was so much shit on the camel's back already that one straw was too much and the camel collapsed. What the fuck are you even saying right now?

What

I'M

saying is that using that as your proverbial straw (and yes I know what the phrase means) is just stupid. Really stupid.

Why? pieguy has just said that my interpretation of his post was correct.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

the third one is bullshit. the thing that's suspicious is when scum claims something is scum v. town, pushes a lynch on one of them, then goes "oops wrong one" and pushes a lynch on the other one. I was not doing that. I was blatantly expressing that I had no fkin idea what to think of that interaction and moving on.

If you were just moving on, why did you bring it up three times?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

yeah I already said the first one was stupid. but you saying I'm trying to make mhork "look bad" follows from me being mafia in the first place, making this logic circular.

Not really. Why, other than to make Mhork look bad, did you say you didn't believe that he had contacted Pyro

after he had been confirmed through morph

?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

for the fourth one, I already said I wanted to avoid instawagoning voided. my point was there is no way in hell that opinion came from a town perspective. it's not a reasonable way of thinking about it. from a town perspective, mafia is the only one who knows what the hell is up with the red auctions. so when Seanald posted that it should set off a major red flag.

There was one vote on Voided at that time; that's hardly a wagon.

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

the second one is you twisting my words around. I'm not even the one who came up with the idea of scum apathy

Did I say you were the one that came up with the idea?

[KingdomAces]

Are you serious? It's the easiest way to fencesit and get two mislynches without getting your hands dirty.

I know that. What I'm saying is that doesn't actually mean that scum actually does it more often than town, even though there are clear benefits to doing so.

[Voidedmafia]

Ghostlin, nero and I effectively narrowly avoided being lynched from our perspectives. As of d3 it was likely that we would be the same again come today, doubly so if deadline was activated immediately. Do you agree or disagree with this assessment, and if not why do you think that I'm not in contention as much anymore? It feels very much like I'm still in that area, but I could be blinded due to my position, and I certainly don't intend on 1v1-ing anybody as there's no reason to.

Pedit: ...the number of people voting me is irrelevant to pie's point, ud.

[Espeonage]

@Voided, inregards to what?