A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Tammy]

I'm having a battle with myself and the roles before alignments vs are there really this many flipping roleblockers on the town team?

[Cephrir]

Vote: Prideandjoy

What brought you around?

I don't even know where to go with 4132. Like, what?

But my theory is that all the town players or all players have 3 abilities. All the full claims so far have fit this mold. The fact you claim to only have one ability is suspicious.

I would post an image but I think the general reaction has pretty much all been covered here. Even though I can't actually argue with it personally, it's blatantly stupid.

[Cephrir]

I'm having a battle with myself and the roles before alignments vs are there really this many flipping roleblockers on the town team?

It depends, do you think they're town? As I have expressed multiple times I don't think we should be taking these things into account.

[Tierce]

*peers suspiciously @ tierce*

Yes?

[Tammy]

I'm having a battle with myself and the roles before alignments vs are there really this many flipping roleblockers on the town team?

It depends, do you think they're town? As I have expressed multiple times I don't think we should be taking these things into account.

I know, it's what I've been arguing since day one, but there's a rabbit hole there filled with nice shiny things and if my descent into madness over shadoweh day one is any indication, shiny is shiny and oh look!

Titus is zdenek whom I liked until just before the spyrex lynch. I don't like Elle. Agar is agar, he sounds like he believes what he's talking about, but I don't know what he can pull off as scum, so. Safety dance is town.

[Eddard Stark]

Day 5, Vc 8

PrideandJoy (2) -

kanyeknowsbest, Nautilius

Garruk Relentless (3) -

Messiah Complex, SafetyDance, Titus

Cephrir (1) -

PrideandJoy

The Alchemist (1) -

Benmage

Titus (6) -

AGar, The Alchemist, Goat on a Raft, Cephrir, elleheathen, Garuk Relentless

Not voting (5) -

Alfred Borden, ooba, Shadoweh, Tammy, Tierce

With 18 alive it takes 10 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 25th of Novemberat 10:00 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-11-25 10:00:00)
  

[Tammy]

Can't believe people are having a go at Shadoweh for killing Katsuki. Not only are you applying hindsight and not offering an alternative opinion as to what you would have done, She said she would do it, where was the disagreement then? Shad, did you know it would go over the global roleblock? Can anyone confirm (by receiving the Titus investigation message or lack of action going through) that what Titus claimed actually happened? Have to wait for her to appear now.

Yes, I knew ahead of time that the 'redirecting' I was referring to being referenced to in my role pm was 'cannot be redirected or blocked'. At least two people have claimed the global rb thing happenbed though.

I don't really think global rb that stops all scum kills couldn't be a scum role though, it's been done before (I think Faraday even had the role) :V The roleblock on the kill is pretty good evidence.

I will note now and save for later the fact that our role is in complete opposition to your claimed one. I.e., the utility of ours is negated by yours. in the same way a role copier / role mimic clashes with a vanillizer. If there happens to be a third party SK-like faction, I would be suspecting you. however, it'd be too much if you were scum (and a scum-role kill modifier like that would have been used on someone other than Katsuki).

Why couldn't you suspect her of being regular faction scum?

[Tammy]

This is a Faralame game. And Faradumb games always have safeclaims for scum. Farascum roots for them.

Safe claims aren't really needed in a upick where roles are decided before alignments.

[Tammy]

...with tweaking after


Yes, I realize that logic is at odds with

SHINY.

[Tammy]

Oh oh oh oh oh

Garruck is probably town for their theory though.

(Also, we have similar scum reads)

[Tammy]

Gotta have the luck to be able to do that, G.

Titus(1) or PnJ(2):

Original Roll String: 1d2 (STATIC)

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

Who are your actual scum reads? And why aren't you actually trying to figure out this game?

This rice roll reads to me as you trying to recreate that day one reaction of oh she's town cuz of this randomness.

[Tammy]

*dice roll >_>

[Tammy]

But I hate hate hate that Titus wants to prove herself by posting pics of her notes.

[Garruk Relentless]

Titus's stated reason for voting us was p terrible.

[Cephrir]

But I hate hate hate that Titus wants to prove herself by posting pics of her notes.

Yes and no. Personally I just want to see the damn things, except now that I know they only go up to page 30 I'm not as excited as I was.

[Tammy]

elleheathen
Garuk Relentless (Natarisha/MafiaSSK)
Goat on a Raft (Channeldelibird/AurorusVox)
Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish)
Prideandjoy(chesskid3/ActionDan)


Here's the current remaining list. I know Alchemist is missing and that might blow your mind but he doesn't really feel that much like scum.

Elleheathen and prideandjoy are my top two picks.

[Tammy]

But I hate hate hate that Titus wants to prove herself by posting pics of her notes.

Yes and no. Personally I just want to see the damn things, except now that I know they only go up to page 30 I'm not as excited as I was.

It's the mindset that bothers me. "Let me prove to you I've been reading."

I've definitely seen town post their notes before, but this kind of urgent let me prove I'm reading is twitchy.

[Garruk Relentless]

But I hate hate hate that Titus wants to prove herself by posting pics of her notes.

Yes and no. Personally I just want to see the damn things, except now that I know they only go up to page 30 I'm not as excited as I was.

It's the mindset that bothers me. "Let me prove to you I've been reading."

I've definitely seen town post their notes before, but this kind of urgent let me prove I'm reading is twitchy.

I have to agree with you on that mindset. But also, posting notes means nothing. They're easy to make up. Pick a random post say that it's scummy or town-like. Repeat a few times. It's not a town-tell or a scumtell.

[Garruk Relentless]

-SSK

[Cephrir]

As you may have noticed already in this thread, I like to read into notes. It's not their presence or absence, I just find their content useful in determining the writer's alignment.

[Garruk Relentless]

As you may have noticed already in this thread, I like to read into notes. It's not their presence or absence, I just find their content useful in determining the writer's alignment.

How? Once again, I note how they can be faked. But even if they're not faked, they can be so devoid of verbs or adjectives that there's no way you could see into it at all. Sometimes mine consist of "Cephrir 4194 down". Literally.

-SSK

[Tammy]

VOTE: prideandjoy

I was just flipping through the channels and saw a tv show called pride and joy and figured that's a sign! Look how wacky and random I am woooo. I mean it's certainly better than a redo dice roll joke right?

[Tammy]

Ok, so the PoE work I was doing basically led to these dudes being included in the town bloc I had proposed:

kanye
ooba
AGar (want to talk to Nacho and ooba about this one though)
Benmage
Tierce
Tammy
SafetyDance (post quadz flip addition off the top of my head)
Shadoweh

Nowhere near enough to narrow things down significantly but with a second scum flip, this should be pretty easy.

I agree with Kanye (with like the tiniest reservations of paranoia but nothing more than post-day-three Tammy syndrome)

I really agree with ooba.

I'd like to see a meta of Agar. My only experience of Agar is of him as town roleblocker in Abarat in which he acted very similar to this. He does seem like he believes what he says about roleblocking Titus and thus preventing the kill on night three. But, but. There's four scum left according to Goat, so hm.

I really agree with Benmage.

Agree with Tierce, rabbit holes here and there aside.

Obv agree with me >_>

Yeah SafetyDance is town. Quadz tried to set him up in a clever/clunky way; I mean they could be scum counter claiming each other, but i didn't get that sense from Safety Dance at all. Plus he started acting like town.

Shadoweh is likely town. She threw weird suspicion on me, which I'm starting to believe is more likely for her to do as town than as scum, so probs town.

I do think that Nacho is a good addition. He definitely would bus two partners back to back if he wanted to and thought it would be fun to do, so that isn't a good reason to think he's town, but he feels town.

[Cephrir]

As you may have noticed already in this thread, I like to read into notes. It's not their presence or absence, I just find their content useful in determining the writer's alignment.

How? Once again, I note how they can be faked. But even if they're not faked, they can be so devoid of verbs or adjectives that there's no way you could see into it at all. Sometimes mine consist of "Cephrir 4194 down". Literally.

-SSK

That's exactly the sort of thing I dislike!

VOTE: P&J

I guess this is happening now that I moved? Seems like the players in this game are allergic to being on wagons with me.

[Tammy]

I don't take notes.

I just spam threads with my thoughts. Don't act like you don't like it :/