Micro 256 ~ Bailey and Hunt's time is over. (Mafia Wins)

shos · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:53 am

no we can't assure that he is town yet because we don't know what rational was. but yes, that's the plan. I target des, des targets me, you and TSO target each other. hopefully we win after the lynch tho

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:04 am

Let me do a read on Des before I get behind this then, I think we'd be silly if we didn't feel more assured.

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:13 am

@Desperado - you appear to have familiarity with ArcAngel as a player, but you guys never so much as said 'hi' to each other. Do you not like each other?

Desperado · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:17 am

It's more like we don't understand each other. I don't even bother trying anymore.

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:31 am

Have you treated her like this before in a game I could see?

Desperado · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:36 am

No idea. Off the top of my head hells bottom and castle we were both in. Maybe one other.

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:56 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=30429

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25751

Found them.

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:08 am

In Hell's bottom you were scum and she was town and you had quite a bit of interaction with her. Castle...same thing, you were scum and she was town and plenty of interaction. Both had light years more interaction and reads between you guys than here. Also, clearly with two scum games for you and two town games for her I can't believe that is where you developed a concept that you couldn't read her. I also found 2 ongoings...but...[ongoing] and I can't draw much info there. How long have you decided you can't read her and thus won't interact with her?

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:12 am

It just occurred to me I might be looking at this backwards. I looked at *ArcAngel's* iso for you in two games where she was town and she mentions you a lot and asks questions of you a lot in both of them. In this game she asked you one question and did one RVS vote on you, and that was it. You didn't think that sort of change up in her interactions towards you was at all unusual?

JacobSavage · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:47 am

So the only way we don't win is if Desp is scum, right?

that leaves only you and Des. of the two of you

What?

Stop and think about waht you are doing.

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:53 am

How am I not thinking about what I'm doing?

JacobSavage · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:25 pm

IF DES IS SCUM YOU LOSE AND APPARENTLY ITS ONE OF ME OR DES.

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:28 pm

Why wouldn't you think it was me or TSO?

T S O · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:56 pm

In post 428, Desperado wrote:It's more like we don't understand each other. I don't even bother trying anymore.

This sums it up.

Jacob, I love the new siggy.

JacobSavage · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:38 pm

In post 423, shos wrote:uh, no you can't? we are 100% that one of the two is a town killing role. so if they target each other, that works for BOTH cases. we are 100% that I am a town doc. that leaves only you and Des. of the two of you, well, you are much more likely imo to be scum. if everyone else agrees, I think that's what we should do.

This.

You and T S O sort each other out.

Why thank you

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:37 pm

So what evidence do you think exists to show you are town and Desp is not-as-town and/or scum?

JacobSavage · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:44 pm

1. My Role PM

This is more of a YOU FUCKWITS ACTUALLY CONSIDER WHAT YOU ARE DOING than anything else. Hold on i maybe able to come up with sometbing better.

JacobSavage · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:51 pm

Got it.

No lynch. Me Des and Shos form a circle. Winage.

Squirrel Girl · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:11 pm

I don't see that as inherently bad for any reason. It's really just pushing the decision back a day though rather than solving it. Though maybe I'm naive and then it won't matter to me. I actually have less fear of that plan than Desp's plan, because at least that plan isn't game over if we're "wrong" about anything.

Desperado · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:28 pm

In post 432, Squirrel Girl wrote:In Hell's bottom you were scum and she was town and you had quite a bit of interaction with her. Castle...same thing, you were scum and she was town and plenty of interaction. Both had light years more interaction and reads between you guys than here. Also, clearly with two scum games for you and two town games for her I can't believe that is where you developed a concept that you couldn't read her. I also found 2 ongoings...but...[ongoing] and I can't draw much info there. How long have you decided you can't read her and thus won't interact with her?

Sometime during [ongoing].

Desperado · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:32 pm

In post 433, Squirrel Girl wrote:It just occurred to me I might be looking at this backwards. I looked at *ArcAngel's* iso for you in two games where she was town and she mentions you a lot and asks questions of you a lot in both of them. In this game she asked you one question and did one RVS vote on you, and that was it. You didn't think that sort of change up in her interactions towards you was at all unusual?

I think if Rational hadn't self-hammered we might have ended up on Arc. Mollie scumread her early, Rat was actually coherent under the trolling like I though...

@ Jacob: Why the fuck are you and Shos and I forming a circle? Shos is confirmed town.

Malakittens · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:37 pm

2.02

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

Voting:

*T S O -
*Desperado -
*Squirrel Girl -
*shos -
*JacobSavage - Desperado, T S O [2] [L-1]

Not Voting:

shos, Squirrel Girl, JacobSavage [5]

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-11-28 21:48:00)

JacobSavage · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:23 am

No it stops us losing if Desp is scum.

If one of TSO / Squirl is scum they either have to kill the other one OR try and kill one of us which won't work OR kill themselves and hope they are CPR

If one of us dies then its pretty obvious who the scum is (bascially its the one who isn't shos)

shos · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:49 am

I don't follow.

how will it help? suppose we do your plan, both vigs die. then what? we're in 3p lylo of you vs des. which is precisely what we are in now with that plan.

it solves nothing.

lemme ISO des.

shos · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:56 am

it looks like Des is town, I think.

From Des' point of view, SG-TSO double target and a jacob lynch is 100% win.
so Des should already be voting Jacob.

from Jacob's POV, SG-TSO double target and a TSO lynch is a 100% win.

I can't see how you guys aren't voting each other.