In post 3416, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Ghostly Penguin confuses me - it's been a while since I played with p_a (never played with Ghostlin), but she's never been this absent before
Ghostlin's absence is the big troubling thing; penguin disappears from time to time but Ghostlin is usually a guiding force as town. He isn't in this game.
In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Wait, Dr. Pepper was lynched by the end of D1? Aside from that, what extended case? The one where you compared his first post to Seanald's the first time you mention it, and then never add anything else aside from "this sounds fake", even though it really didn't, for the rest of the day? Looking past D1, the rest of your points against him are that his logic is terrible, which while it would be nice if only scum had terrible logic, that's not the way things are. And you were the second vote on Hermy, so you can't say that it was because it was a deadline lynch.
You haven't commented on me lynching DrPepper in general. Klick showed up with a bad post around the time when deadline was activated, which sounded fake to us, and we even ended up explaining why we did later. Other points against Klick were: posturing, focusing on us calling his line fake and doing nothing else, saying that he had a top scumread in Prohawk but being unwilling to vote him because he didn't want Voided to "escape a lynch" (implicit reasoning, #1306). Later, we had a lot of waffling based on the circumstances around his replace out; I actually don't see where we attacked him based on bad logic. And yes, when deadline was activated D1, our goal was to find a good lynch on the first person who pinged us. Hermy pinged us. What other sort of lynch would you expect us to find? Doesn't it seem hypocritical that you're criticizing us for not putting enough thought into determining a D1 lynch with a three day deadline when you're still having trouble finding a good scumread to lynch weeks into the game?
Guille said "hi, I'm going to skim" and then disappeared. During this time, he showed absolutely no awareness of the game state, didn't complain, didn't do anything alignment relevant. What did you expect us to say about him?
Town.
In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Klick wasn't an inactive at that point, you didn't say any of that about Banakai back then, noting that I had only read up to page 60.
Klick was an inactive the entire time he was in the thread. I don't remember what happened on what page because I usually respond with off the cuff answers when I'm looking at things on my iPad; checking timelines is usually a horrible waste of time. No, I probably didn't find anything interesting about Banakai by then. Why does that matter?
In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:The only post was just saying that you thought he was null, for what I saw as having a really similar post to DP's.
I pointed out how they were different.
In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:DP specifically said something was happening in RL for him, so unless you have proof that he's lying, then that's not good enough. Further about Banakai, when you did finally post something meaningful about him, it was just echoing what LB was saying and you wouldn't have mentioned him at all if LB didn't bring him up. My reasons for suspecting those comments have barely even been damaged, much less shredded.
DP had time to log into the thread and notice when deadline was going to happen. If he noticed when deadline was going to happen and was town, he would also notice that there was a strong wagon forming that he could have looked at. He had time to put a vote down or contribute something in thread or give a shit that we were on limited time constraints, but he did not. Why? Because he was scum.
That's true. I also echoed what ffery said about him. Still doesn't mean that I didn't have a decent read on him.
In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:Null+Scum=Null-Scum. Where's the problem? Also, how is lack of engagement scummy at all? Once again, it would be nice if it was, but it's not.
Null means that a player literally hasn't done anything (as in, has a rating of 0). Scummy means that the player is scum (as in, has a rating of -1). 0 + -1 = -1, as in a scummy hydra head plus a null hydra head is a scummy hydra. How did Quilford's posting make N's look townier if you didn't find anything in Quilford's posts that you liked? Lack of engagement is scummy because town players look for scum and try to get them lynched because that's their win condition. Scum players survive because that's their win condition; they also have more information than townies, so there's less "figuring things out".
In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:He flipped town, so why would I not want the lynch to go through as scum? Aside from that, see the last point of the previous quote.
Easy target for you to push in the future.
In post 3423, KingdomAces wrote:I had already tried several times to analyse Voided/Nero and failed, so I really didn't want to go right back into doing something that would cause me to continue being useless.
Why haven't we seen even a hint of this analysis in thread? I also wonder why you don't put any effort at all into figuring out who you actually want to lynch, even though that's sort of pretty much the most important thing when deadline is bearing down and you're the main wagon.
