My quote came after a series of posts where I basically deduce that Jacob is confscum.
So your plan is reverse order but we lynch Jacob but do nothing if he's town. I was remembering things wrong, but I still feel like you are not implying any sort of 'no action' thing.
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
damn you rationalmadman for making us be in this situation -_-;
*sigh*
I'm pretty sure that des is town based on my 380 post; the playerlist says
bazinga
T S O
Desperado
ArcAngel9
penguin_alien
Squirrel Girl
shos - NURSE
JacobSavage
and if people targetted the one above them, scum would be just idiotic to randomly target someone who might be docced when they had two choices of 100% deaths with no implications..unless AA9 and Des are together and so they only have one choice which might be dangerous.......
darn it.
go to 3p lylo, anyone?
perhaps we can make a better plan?
rat literally made this game less mafia and more play-the-setup. goddamn.
I know that I am not a killing doctor. should I target someone? odds are that they'll be safe from a NK. Des and Jacob are, too, confnotkilling, so how bout we lynch TSO/SG and they both target me tonight and the SG/TSO that stays alive is the one I would target? that would give us a lylo without Des/TSO(cuz they'll get killed) and well, I'll be alive as conftown ^_^;...
OR we can nolynch and have SG shoot Des, TSO shoot Jacob. that way I will probably die. if both Jacob and Des survive that means one of the shooters is scum, so we nolynch again and they shoot each other and we win. if they both die, same thing and we win. if just one dies, that means that the one who shot him is conftownkillingdoc; so that it'll be lylo of a killing role, a townie, and a scum. lynch one of the townies, and we get a vig v scum 1v1 night? what happens then?
In post 477, shos wrote:I know that I am not a killing doctor. should I target someone? odds are that they'll be safe from a NK. Des and Jacob are, too, confnotkilling, so how bout we lynch TSO/SG and they both target me tonight and the SG/TSO that stays alive is the one I would target? that would give us a lylo without Des/TSO(cuz they'll get killed) and well, I'll be alive as conftown ^_^;...
OR we can nolynch and have SG shoot Des, TSO shoot Jacob. that way I will probably die. if both Jacob and Des survive that means one of the shooters is scum, so we nolynch again and they shoot each other and we win. if they both die, same thing and we win. if just one dies, that means that the one who shot him is conftownkillingdoc; so that it'll be lylo of a killing role, a townie, and a scum. lynch one of the townies, and we get a vig v scum 1v1 night? what happens then?
The first plan seems like it is okay, but is a final call between one of me/TSO vs. Jake/Desp as opposed to the other plan (lynch Jake, do nothing if he's town) which ends up the same way if Jake isn't scum. I like your plan better simply because it gets our one confirmed town into lylo, because actually Desp's plan probably ends with you dead and a 3-way lylo, so I like this better than that plan.
Your second plan you ruled out yourself.
I support the lynch me/TSO plan and then have Desp + Jacob target you and you target TSO and then you can figure stuff out between TSO and Desp tomorrow. No other plan is really a 2-way choice, all the others are 3-way choices, so that makes this a better plan statistically.
In post 481, shos wrote:I prefer lynching TSO, targetting sg.
I'm okay either way, really. In a 2-way lylo I don't have to get stressed because I can vote park and just keep calling the other slot scum, but that can be said for anyone.
I agree with that, but I have too many doubts right now. I have doubts with you for [ongoing], Jacob for lurky vote happy play, and Desperado for the communication gap with him and ArcAngel as well as the plans with implied instructions that I don't think were implied at all like he's telling me they were. I really don't want to have to choose between all of you right now because I feel like I'd mess it up too bad.
Could you talk about Shos' plan instead? Like, try to poke any holes in it that you can see? Is there a better option than Shos+2 other players in lylo?
In post 495, shos wrote:AA9 had no chance of even getting close to lynched. no way we can make any associative tells here.
There behavior is very different from how they've ever interacted when they have been different alignments. I don't think it's the best case ever, and I'm not sure on it, but I do think it's suspect enough that I don't want to gamble the game on being sure he's town, because I think that's a risky gamble. He doesn't feel very town to me. I will admit maybe I'm being paranoid, but the evidence seems really clear in what I found, do you see something I don't in the evidence? I mean, if they were scum and had no fear of ArcAngel being lynched why wouldn't they buddy up? WHy would they refuse to interact in any way at all like they often do otherwise when town and trying to interact? Something made them decide not to talk to or about each other at all, and I think it's pretty likely that it's because they're scumbuddies.
SG your analysis is terrible because it includes 0 town games from me. "They've never acted this way as different alignments" is disingenuous given the facts--the only two completed games we have are Arctown/Desscum.
You have no idea what Destown would do when confronted with Arc in a game. Now you do.
Now can you fucking do something? What do you want to happen right now?
I asked if there was any situation of Desp town interacting with her, and you have none you can show me which means any ongoings I look at I pretty much have to random guess. That said, scumDesp does know that townArcAngel will interact with him when she is town and unsure of his alignment, and she did not do that this game at all, and you didn't seem to think that was odd, and I consider that to be telling.
And I think I am doing things, and you yelling at me is not going to change my mind.
And no, you really aren't. I have no idea what plan you support or what you think is actually going on. Of the three of us I'm the only one you've explicitly stated you don't trust, so why aren't you advancing some sort of plan to lynch me today?
