NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[MVP]

My solution would be to pretend his results don't even exist until/unless he flips town. Obviously it's difficult to ignore that WIFOM if it arises, but cost-benefit analysis.

To be honest, I think at this point, lynching him will provide even more and faster info than keeping him alive for few more days.

[sangres]

The last ten or so pages make me feel nauseous. We've got to hurry up and lynch the scum that is Orcinus. The deadline is approaching. If the Caled lynch goes through and she flips town then I'm going to 'I told you so' every single person on the wagon. A lot.

Everything's going to be okay, I promise.

[yessiree]

Cephrir, your line of reasoning assumes Orc dies some time in the future.


YEAH WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE PREDICTING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE?

[RadiantCowbells]

If we're just going to let him live because of the cop claim, what's to stop every single other scum from claiming a PR and not getting lynched.

The development cycle consisted of the lazy bastards at Activision and Infinity Ward opening up "MW3.exe", making a few tweaks and saving it as "CODGhosts.exe", again hyping up the copy-and-pasted game so gullible fools will buy the same game they've been playing for the past 6 years. Great job guys.

[Toomai]

I'm really conflicted now. Sangres' case on orcinus is pretty good but I still can't make myself believe it's a good idea to lynch a D1 Cop claim.

Unvote

since that's not useful anymore.

[Cephrir]

By the way, sangres, did you build that case together or was it mostly one or the other of you? If the latter, which?

[sangres]

By the way, sangres, did you build that case together or was it mostly one or the other of you? If the latter, which?

Nacho wrote up the case. When we've been able to talk about this game, most of our recent discussion has been about orcinus. It's a consensus opinion, though I didn't react as strongly to the lyncher post as Nacho did. Nacho had to point out to me that normal game rules don't allow for that kind of win condition.

[likeabauss]

I'd like to hear why you suspect me aside from "he's not sheeping me".

This:

I'm only slight scum on you and discounting my read because of our dynamic (I don't have conviction in my read on you at this point.) Its natural to lean scum on somebody who discredits you, and attacks your arguments, so I'm not putting much stock in my read on you as a result. I hope to develop a better read as the game goes on.

It's mostly a gut read, not based on your actual play. And I've openly discounted it due to a natural bias. I'm not saying "Let's lynch Cephrir" but I'm also not going to say I'm null or town on you. Just being honest/open.

@bauss again: You expect everyone else to unconditionally accept your Rank meta (without backing it up I might add) but you aren't willing to accept anyone else's meta on me, apparently?

My Rank-fu is strong. Seriously though, I provided a thoroughly detailed explanation of my Rank read (831), I just didn't cite a bunch of completed games as references. I have deliberately avoided exploiting his game play/tendencies when he's not even here to defend himself (As a matter of courtesy or etiquette if you will.) And, for what its worth, I hate meta reads as they are used on this board for reasons I discussed earlier (1386). My read on Rank is based on a profile of him as a player/person, and my experience with him. Not, "He subbed out on D1 in game 1234, and was scum. Therefore, he must be scum this game."

I haven't seen a comprehensive "case" (or profile of you) as to why you're town/scum on meta (if I missed it, please advise.) But at this point, you've shared openly/discussed willingly all the topics of conversation. This is the type of play that will yield a better vantage point into your alignment after a couple days. So, I'm content to personally sort you later when the body of work becomes available.

[goodmorning]

less words than previously

Votecount 1.64

orcinus_theoriginal [L-2] - likeabauss, Hermy, RadiantCowbells, MVP, yessiree, Guyett, Sakura Hana

Sakura Hana [L-6] - MC Maraca, orcinus_theoriginal, Cephrir

Guyett [L-7] - caledfwitch, PeregrineV

caledfwitch [L-8] - Angry Frat BROs

likeabauss [L-8] - JacobSavage

Not Voting [3] - TheIrishPope, sangres, Toomai

With 17 alive, it takes

9

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-11-21 09:39:00)

[Sakura Hana]

My apologies for my previous posts, I had accumulated a lot of stress from work and I'm still having issues with my boss (i'm at the point of breaking out and quitting my job), i wouldnt mind if you guys decide to lynch me over it but w/e, idc, life > mafia anyway, also i'm gonna say that my activity is gonna lower until something happens, and i dont know when that will happen so it's for an indefinite ammount of time.

[Cephrir]

I'd like to hear why you suspect me aside from "he's not sheeping me".

This:

I'm only slight scum on you and discounting my read because of our dynamic (I don't have conviction in my read on you at this point.) Its natural to lean scum on somebody who discredits you, and attacks your arguments, so I'm not putting much stock in my read on you as a result. I hope to develop a better read as the game goes on.

It's mostly a gut read, not based on your actual play. And I've openly discounted it due to a natural bias. I'm not saying "Let's lynch Cephrir" but I'm also not going to say I'm null or town on you. Just being honest/open.

K so it's just that I'm not sheeping you

Noted

@bauss again: You expect everyone else to unconditionally accept your Rank meta (without backing it up I might add) but you aren't willing to accept anyone else's meta on me, apparently?

My Rank-fu is strong. Seriously though, I provided a thoroughly detailed explanation of my Rank read (831), I just didn't cite a bunch of completed games as references. I have deliberately avoided exploiting his game play/tendencies when he's not even here to defend himself (As a matter of courtesy or etiquette if you will.) And, for what its worth, I hate meta reads as they are used on this board for reasons I discussed earlier (1386). My read on Rank is based on a profile of him as a player/person, and my experience with him. Not, "He subbed out on D1 in game 1234, and was scum. Therefore, he must be scum this game."

I haven't seen a comprehensive "case" (or profile of you) as to why you're town/scum on meta (if I missed it, please advise.) But at this point, you've shared openly/discussed willingly all the topics of conversation. This is the type of play that will yield a better vantage point into your alignment after a couple days. So, I'm content to personally sort you later when the body of work becomes available.

If I ever come under serious suspicion I'm sure it will be discussed.

[Cephrir]

(In greater depth anyway)

[Cephrir]

And I'm not going to bother addressing how your two different ideas of meta are the same thing, as it's plainly useless.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think Toomai is scum too.

[PeregrineV]

Let's follow the witch.

Vote: Guyett

@Orc-

Your lack of strong obv-towning as you approach impending death to make up for crappy play does not really fall in line with the cop role and town wincon.

Why is that?

If you are going to try a flashwagon you should really choose a better target.

The lack of Guyett wading in here seems to me to not resemble his townplay from the Marvel vs DC game.

So not so much a flashwagon (6 days left) but a notice of intent that key players are not meeting their expectations that I think I would see from them if they had a town role.

[PeregrineV]

Let's follow the witch.

Vote: Guyett

@Orc-

Your lack of strong obv-towning as you approach impending death to make up for crappy play does not really fall in line with the cop role and town wincon.

Why is that?

VOTE: Orcinus

VOTE: Orci

VOTE: orc

Unvote
Vote: Orc

I don't really feel motivated, and I

don't know why.

You know that doesn't matter.

Should you live too long, you know you have to be lynched anyway.

[PeregrineV]

Peregrine has a poor looking ISO aside from promises of bulletproof vests.

I do what I can.

[PeregrineV]

Sangres, I feel like you're trying to talk yourself out of voting for Orcinus. All the indications you've alluded to suggest he's scum based on your experience? Nacho trusts my Rank meta and if my previous assumption is correct your gut read on Orcinus says scum... so what gives?

I just don't get this board sometimes. People will flash wagon a noob who didn't do anything scummy, but won't hang a well known veteran who is basically screaming "I'm scum."

Just so you have a non-you point of veiw- Orcinus cop claim carries some weight, because starting the game off lynching your investigative role is somewhat disheartening.

Letting scum kill him is annoying, but at least WE didn't do it.

I know you have other scumreads, why not lynch one of them for today?

[PeregrineV]

zero analysis.

You mean analysis based on interactions to those of known alignments?

[PeregrineV]

Cops dont act scummy.

Cops dont act scummy.

This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever seen

[PeregrineV]

You people are going to make me read, aren't you?

Vote: Sakura

[yessiree]

Cephrir, I'm just going to point out that your recent posts reek of horseshit.

Also, I was expecting to see come content from PeregrineV's catch up posts but lol why the fuck did I get my hopes up.

Have a nice day i'm off to shitty labs.

[PeregrineV]

Cephrir, I'm just going to point out that your recent posts reek of horseshit.

Also, I was expecting to see come content from PeregrineV's catch up posts but lol why the fuck did I get my hopes up.

Have a nice day i'm off to shitty labs.

What were you looking for?

[Cephrir]

I beg to differ!

[MC Maraca]

Cops dont act scummy.

Town-Sakura is many things. This dumb, she is not.

And that little ATE about lynching her is one of the worst emulations of her town ATE I've seen in a long time.