Mini 1516: Mafia in Space (Game Over)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Day 1, Votecount 20

Street Hassle [1]

Kid A

Kid A [0]

TvK [0]

My Milked Eek [5]

Herself, Squirrel Girl, Garmr, ICEninja, The Silver Bard

LolWagons [0]

Regfan [0]

ICEninja [0]

Garmr [1]

My Milked Eek

Squirrel Girl [0]

The Silver Bard [1]

TvK

Wake88 [0]

Herself [1]

havingfitz

havingfitz [3]

Street Hassle, LolWagons, Regfan

Not Voting [1]

- Wake88

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is on November 23rd at 7:30 AM PST or in (expired on 2013-11-23 07:30:00)

[Garmr]

So very wrong I expected more from the way you were talking.

very defensive play over stupid reasons
#49 "I could see your post as an attempt to subtly diffuse a early wagon which we could get allot of information out of or a slight chainsaw defense as I feel like your post was insinuating I was acting scummy with out directly saying so to make me unvote Nutsy McSexytail thus making it a humming chainsaw." spoilers: it wasn't in the slightest insinuating anything.

Sigh the insinuation is the fact his post sounded like he would suspect me if i didn't vote lift my vote of Nutsy.

[*]

afraid to be the first to lay out a case against anyone/sheeping (if only we had a wiki page on this)

#135 "I don't find anyone scummy, did I mention that I find orestes scummy for a post that was 100 posts ago? surely nothing else happened in between" I might've paraphrased that a bit . But it's still ridiculous that he holds on to his lame orestes reason. The street hassle name dropping feels pretty fake. Street didn't reply to an old post? Big deal. Things to note here: 1) Street was one of the people you mentioned in the early stage, but "you'd see". 2) You don't even give your opinion on Street. Literally asking the town on what to do: "

What do you guys think of this.

" == "

Tell me guys, is there a platform for voting Street?

" I remembered Kid A's sudden vote on Street as I typed this, but that's 300 posts later (in Kid A terms: 3 posts).
#234 Avoids giving any insight on herself vs. street,

SUDDENLY

, after herself posts her case and dare I speculate, after he sees a platform for voting someone else besides orestes, an opinion! "

finally where to place my vote at the moment I'm pretty flexible between the fitz and orts wagon.

" == "

But yeah, you know, it's not as if I'll vote for fitz, I totes would, it's just, I got more important things to consider, like orestes' post from 1996

".
#373 He sees an Eek wagon might be feasible and he makes sure we haven't forgotten he has orestes as a scumread.

370 posts in and all he has is orestes and early wagons that he might hop on "

at the end of the day

".

Bolded for emphasis. His reads in that post are pathetic. He even avoids mention his TSO opinion using his old "let's talk about a previous game but then counter what my conclusions were from mentioning it and hope no one sees this"-method or garmscum for short.
#379 Votes me in a very "if I have to" way. No real mention of suspicion before this, a quick mention that he might join the Eek wagon later on.
#573 "It's a good case, but that subjective" Really? What is he trying to do here? Point out the obvious (all cases are subjective until a flip/game over) or prepare a backtrack? Either way "Herself made the case, not me".

What is this shit......
1.noticed your forgot to mention my post 96 post 50 post 58 where i was conversing with ortz 1.I wanted to know why street didn't continue there suspicions on me plus I don't understand your 2 point it seems shit (

MISREP NOTED

2.post 234/ I don't want to get involved in personal shit plus at the time ortz over fitz I still viewed ortz as more scummy than fitz at the time as I didn't see the early rvs shit as scummy it was his latter posts.

3.post 373/ Well if you don't like my quick reads fine then it wasn't meant to be indepth anyway just a update. This is when i first started becoming suspicious of you and my opinion wasn't as strong.

4. My vote on you was a compromise between me and squirrel girl at the time orestes was my top scum read and that wagon wasn't going to kick off because he was likely to flake. You were middle ground and at the time a null-scum.

5. So i'm not allowed to agree with people's cases lol.

Claps so far so bad I don't really see any valid points lets continue

afraid to push early opinions
#49 "banksys was scum last game, but we'll see ... street is power house, but we'll see ... ice is paranoid, but we'll see" (paraphrased) I get the point that it's an early stage of the game, but why bring all this fluff up if not for appearing to post some kind of opinion on anyone? Coincidence or not; the three people he mentions in his post are all town or leaning town imo (ICEninja disclaimer: imo)
#162 "Remember that time that I mentioned banksys before? Well, I'm still watching her/him" (paraphrased) Seriously, can you not once deliver an opinion on someone besides these 4 players?
#183 Why is he still being on the fence about everyone? 200 posts in and all I know is that he doesn't like orestes's one post that one time.
#248 He makes sure the new player in the banksys slot knows he's on his tail and requires mind reading powers from regfan to justify bringing up a meta that would have been useless. Again, "interaction" with one of his 4. And then he follows it up with "Yeah, I had nothing on banksys." (paraphrased)
#541 Non-committal about orestes. WHAT? After a small 500 posts of making sure that we know that he suspects orestes, he just drops it because he might flake? As I said before, a flake is not indicative of alignment. If anything, if I were garm and I found orestes to be scum, I'd keep the pressure on. To which he replies with this bullshit.
#560 After 560 posts, we get this gem. A few things wrong with his read: He would like "fitz gone for obvious reasons". From reading his posts, this obvious reason is that he can only vote for people who are being wagonned. And orestes. He says I'm trying to push suspicion elsewhere. What else would he expect me to do? Keep it on me? (yes, I know I did actually keep it on me, lol)

Post#49 It was early game and fresh out of rvs phase what do you expect

Post#162 bansky only other post since 49 was this

Hmm. I guess we just diametrically oppose in how we think information should flow here. Town hunt all you want. I'd rather you keep the results to yourself.

Tell me how i'm supposed to make a verdict on that when I found her pretty null before..............

Post# 183 Well lets i am not on the fence about everyone and l was slightly suspicious of street post 139 town read on SG and herself post 91,post 63 through post 63 i was a bit worried about herself but Orestes appeared more scummy and herself was soon redeemed. So point even through I didn't post here's my reads Doesn't mean I didn't show I have any

Post# 243- Wtf you took that so out of context I just wanted to know what banksy meant by that and banksy scumtell I will never say until I busted her with it.

post#541 Compromise my friend.

post#560 mostly for the obvious reasons others have presented.....

Nervousness
626 "Lynch the milk guys come on."
658 "So you milk your online mind posting your case against me now???"
660 "I'm asking you for your case because i'm eager to see it but now that you mention it. You sure had time to defend yourself in post 646"
665 Read it, it's too big. But he's flailing so hard. Rehashing points other people made. Tries to smear an appeal to emotion on my request to wait and on my recap of day 1.

I think your acting nervous as well. What i'm doing is pushing your wagon also 665 had mostly my own points and only one point someone else used which i gave credit to scrub. 660 is a responce to your smart ass comment another out of context quote. the other two not worth debating as I am just pushing your lynch.

This is becoming a mess, so a new section: Let's mention that we suspect orestes, but not do anything about it
#620 I don't see how (or why) Bard should defend an "defense" of SG made by orestes. What did garm expect him to say?
I would have added more (copied from the above and below), but meh, you get the point.

It is using that point against herself. it becomes hypocritical.

Talks about being scum
#448 "So to my point.When I am scum I take great pride in my ability to distance myself from others and the ability to survive." This is exactly what is happening this game. He's non-committal about everyone until someone else (or multiple people) voiced their opinions or voted them. He even undermines his own question from before.
#584 "My scum game N is for normal I played allot more passive when people called me scum." But he is being passive, by sheeping, by not putting out his own opinion, by not sticking to his scumcandidates, by possibly changing to a wagon late in the day.

These two don't conflict in anyway. I am proud of the fact in that game no one pinned a garmr elyse scum team at the end of the day and I was passive in my defense in that game which I will need to fix for future scum games. The two don't conflict at all.

Coaches Kid A scum
#454 Sure, this requires you to think that Kid A scum, which _I_ do by the way. I might even link this to that one post garm made about street. I mentioned this higher up.

Lol coaching my ass I wanted him to put more content out and scum have daychat so wouldn't if me and him were scumbuddies wouldn't i just tell him in scumchat???

buddying to squirrel
fluff posting about nuts, stretching arms, koalas, math skills
theoryposts

Lol I am having fun just like you are but unlike you I don't have fun being a dick head.
1.Squirrels a town read and is fun to talk to
2.So how does that shit makes me scum I like talking and having fun.
3.That's part of mafia not a scum tell.

waits for others to make points and then rehashes them. I had some rapid interaction with him a few times without anyone else posting anything relevant in between and hhe doesn't bring anything new to the table. He just doesn't.
- as a consequence, he hasn't got a single scumread quite a few posts in the game (200-400 (don't actually remember))
- everything is obvious.
- he gives his opinion on his previous scum plays AND HE IS PLAYING THE SAME STYLE IN THIS GAME. He's not even hiding it. People aren't reading this thread. How funny is this, coming from me?
- incredibly nervous
- has he told you yet that he suspects orestes?

Debunked, torn apart and discarded your post is garbage.

[Garmr]

In post 670, My Milked Eek wrote:
very defensive play over stupid reasons
#49 "I could see your post as an attempt to subtly diffuse a early wagon which we could get allot of information out of or a slight chainsaw defense as I feel like your post was insinuating I was acting scummy with out directly saying so to make me unvote Nutsy McSexytail thus making it a humming chainsaw." spoilers: it wasn't in the slightest insinuating anything.

Sigh the insinuation is the fact his post sounded like he would suspect me if i didn't vote lift my vote of Nutsy.

ebwop noticed that it could be misread corrected here

Sigh the insinuation is the fact his post sounded like he would suspect (Fake suspensions or real as that slots currently a null with silver bard) me and place his vote on me if i didn't vote lift my vote of Nutsy. I took this as a threat of scum trying to push me off the wagon.

[havingfitz]

@Wake...wrt SG's comment you ask for opinion on in Post 605.  SG obviously has suspicions towards you and that is going to bias (rightfully or wrongly) her views towards you.  In this case I disagree and don't think your posts say nothing.  Also...your reads/a vote would be nice.

@Lol...wrt to Post 611; no...you haven't parroted.  In regards to your case on me....I of course disagree with it as detailed in my Post 566, which you failed to respond to some of my points/questions to you in.  Back to your case on me: a few arbitrary percentages that you assign to my ISO that have no correlation to alignment that I know of.  If you have examples where you have done %s to scum hunt I would love to see the results.  And I already addressed the cheerleading tell in #566. 

So yeah...you didn't parrot Herself (my apologies again) but your case sucks on its own (lack of) merit.

@Lol...I would love to hear your opinion of the "first 2 posts" case Herself came up with.

On to Lol's Post 612, what "case" against me are you decrying Eek for "ignoring?"   The herself case that you aren't "parroting?" or the one you are advocating (%s and no-cheerleading).  I repeat....%'s LolWhat? and I do not cheerlead...especially on D1.  Later in games I might when my reads are stronger but not D1.  I assume we're all big kids and can decide on our own.  Ala Wake's no sheeping stance.  So where is Eek's fault in paying attention to whichever case you refer to?  And why are you singling out Eek?  Has everyone else paid attention to the cases?  I don't know and I'm not about to look it up but what distinguishes Eek's pov on the case's against me vs anyone else?  It's like a point of suspicion you are inflicting on Eek that is unwarranted.


@garmr...wrt to Post 620; you "fucking told [me] why [you] suspect [me]?"  Where?  All you have said "for obvious reasons", that you "agree with Herself," and I am playing "scummy as hell."  Well thanks for that insight.  Who was accusing me of being lazy?  Lol?  Welcome to the club Garmr.  And why getting so angry at my request that you actually define your suspcions against me?

As for telling you why I'm leaning town on Eek and Silver Bard....similar to my comments on Wake.  They've both started contributing after perfectly acceptable early game absences/dead spots (Orestes) and their (both of them) content of late has not given me any reason to suspect them.  So my town read is an absence of a scummy read.  Capisce?

@Eek...wrt to Post 633...what post are you saying I (or others?) would be a fool to not find scummy?  The post of mine that you are quoting or a post of yours?  Please clarify.

@Silver...wrt to Post 634.  Reads given at Post 187 of a game are going to change over the course of the next 380 posts.  Either for better or worse.  My early read on Garmr went down hill for reasons I believe I have touched on (ISO me and Ctrl-F Garmr) while my early vibe from Kid A (based admittedly on a very small sample of posts) and tarnished a bit as he has either not participated or posted comments of no value (IMO).  So I'm not calling Kid A a scum read but I don't feel as good about him as I did early game.

@ICE...wrt to Post 645...why is it unlikely that Eek and I are both town?  Scum could just be trying to force town to do all the dirty work.  I could easily see there being 1-2 scum on each of our wagons with a slight chance of there being 1 off our wagons.  This feels like you are adding weight to the D2 position of going after whomever of us (Eek and I) isn't lynched today (assuming it is one of us) if that person lynched is town.  I think Eek is town....but it looks like are you saying that it would reflect negatively on me regardless of whether he were to flip town or scum.

@Regfan...wrt to Post 648.  I do not pay attention to who people are townreading.  Scum and town are going to townread people and there are going to be intersections.  If I suspect someone it's not going to be affected by who they think is town.  I'm more interested in who people think are scum and why.  The "why" let's others have good info to digest and puts that player on the record with either valid or crap reasoning.  Then when a mislynch happens the aforementioned crap reasons can be used against them.  So no...I'm not big into townreads (other than my own).  And I touch on Eek and Bard earlier in this post.


So I'm back alone on Herself.  Still prefer that lynch.  Not a fan of my wagon or Eeks.  TvK, Kid A and Wake not playing nice with others (i.e. maintaining wagons even less popular then herself's).

VOTE: Garmr

 

On a completely non-game related note....

Where are you at in Belgium Eek?  I like Belgium a lot and have been there several times.

[My Milked Eek]

I was going to quote inline, but I'm not going to burden the thread with that.

Just a few select quotes from the garm treasure vault:

So very wrong I expected more from the way you were talking.

Just because you're on the receiving end of my post, doesn't detract from its worldwide appraise, I hear it might get a golden palm. I of course didn't aim my post at you, if you didn't notice. I don't need to convince you. Sorry =/

So i'm not allowed to agree with people's cases lol.

No, by all means, go ahead, agree with other people's cases. It's just you don't do anything else and only after it's clear the cases are going somewhere.

Wtf you took that so out of context I just wanted to know what banksy meant by that and banksy scumtell I will never say until I busted her with it.

Here's the stupid part of that post #248: You're asking regfan why banksys did something. Let me bold some words for you: You're asking

regfan

(pause for dramatic emphasis) why

banksys

did something.

Not to mention that what banksys said is completely irrelevant to the game at any stage. Of all the things (lol "all") banksys said, that is the post you're singling out? I can't even begin to understand why.



I'll recap my points with some comments on garm's post:


[*] afraid to be the first to lay out a case against anyone/sheeping (if only we had a wiki page on this)
It doesn't matter if he "debunks" (really, now?) every single incident. The thing is, it's the overall trend that sticks out to me, which is:

garm only suspects people who are being suspected by other people after it's clear the wagon might go somewhere. And orestes of course.

Let's recap:
- fitz wagon: he started showing interest after herself made a point and after it was clear it might go somewhere
- eek wagon: he started showing interest (and hopped on) after it was clear my wagon would go places

When garm suspects someone, he does it ever so gently. Aside from orestes of course.

Let's recap:
He mentions 4 people early game. One is orestes. I should keep that name on my clipboard and only use CTRL+V at this point. I really can't figure out the early name dropping which he in the very same post counters.

He doesn't really push for his suspects unless they are suspected by a wagon or if he is supected

(vs. orestes, vs. me (I foresee the counterarguement "but Eek, I was suspicious of you before your post", no you weren't, I was a null-scum read, truth is: you really started going after me after I made my intents clear of lynching you)).

I urge everyone to go back to garm and read his weak pushes on street, his super secret meta on banksys.

"

Claps so far so bad I don't really see any valid counters

points

lets continue

"

[*] afraid to push

early

opinions

When garm states an opinon on someone, he almost immediately backtracks on it. Aside from orestes of course.

But then again, orestes did flake... So compromises have to be made.


[*] Nervousness
I said I wasn't going to quote him anymore, but I just have to:

I think your acting nervous as well. What i'm doing is pushing your wagon also 665 had mostly my own points and only one point someone else used which i gave credit to scrub. 660 is a responce to your smart ass comment another out of context quote. the other two not worth debating as I am just pushing your lynch.

Let's play a game: You make a bullet list of the points you brought up in that post and I'll quote AND link to the person who has said it before you.
Interested? If not, I'll do it for you, it only strengthens my other point:

you have only been rehashing and sheeping other people's cases/points

. I could relist and link to other people's posts, but that'll take a lot of time, but anyone who has been following the thread even with half an eye knows this is the truth. Or should know.

[*] Doing his meta for us and doing a killer job at it

Garm meta'd himself and my conclusion is that he's playing exactly like the meta on his scum play he's posting.
Somehow orestes is excluded from his meta. Media experts clueless.

These two don't conflict in anyway. I am proud of the fact in that game no one pinned a garmr elyse scum team at the end of the day and I was passive in my defense in that game which I will need to fix for future scum games. The two don't conflict at all.

They don't conflict at all?
















Of course they don't! They supplement each other. You made your own meta case on yourself being scum.




Any points I didn't counter or mention weren't worth the effort. His rebuttals don't matter, they're abysmal. He either confirms what I'm saying or he talks next to the point.
He's scum. I don't see any other way.

Lol I am having fun just like you are but unlike you I don't have fun being a dick head.

I'm sorry if I have given you the impression of being a dick head. I'm not like that, I'm just super pumped about this game. Gotta go faster.
If you ever get WiFi, drop me a PM, we'll trade some Pokemon

[My Milked Eek]

VOTE: Garmr

Gogogogo.

 

On a completely non-game related note....

Where are you at in Belgium Eek?  I like Belgium a lot and have been there several times.

Just the most beautiful city of Belgium: Ghent.


I'll reply to your question later. I still have some work to do >_>

[My Milked Eek]

In post 670, My Milked Eek wrote:
very defensive play over stupid reasons
#49 "I could see your post as an attempt to subtly diffuse a early wagon which we could get allot of information out of or a slight chainsaw defense as I feel like your post was insinuating I was acting scummy with out directly saying so to make me unvote Nutsy McSexytail thus making it a humming chainsaw." spoilers: it wasn't in the slightest insinuating anything.

Sigh the insinuation is the fact his post sounded like he would suspect me if i didn't vote lift my vote of Nutsy.

ebwop noticed that it could be misread corrected here

Sigh the insinuation is the fact his post sounded like he would suspect (Fake suspensions or real as that slots currently a null with silver bard) me and place his vote on me if i didn't vote lift my vote of Nutsy. I took this as a threat of scum trying to push me off the wagon.

Lol, also an ebwop, somehow this wasn't in my post, I did write it though.

The insinuation doesn't matter. What matters is your overreaction to a minor suspicion. That reaction being a thread long suspicion. Did I mention you suspected orestes yet?
This is suspicious an sich, but I'm coupling this with how you're handling your "case" against me. More specifically, you only started your "case" after I voted you. You're _very_ jumpy. Very.

[TvK]

I agree with every bolded statement in Eek's #679. Especially the one about the meta. When Garmr mentioned his scumgame (can't remember the exact #), I read the game and I must say, his playstyle has a lot in common with what he's doing here. I'm also not impressed at all by his response to Eek big post, especially because he seems so confident that he really "debunked" it. Guess it's time to hop on the wagon, took me long enough to find a good place.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Garmr

[Garmr]

Ok everyone since time is running short
lets decide between
3 wagons
fitz wagon(doesn't deserve a caps for a F)
Milk wagon (Milk milk lemonade)
Garmr wagon (me)

The one with the least votes will be cut 32 hours away from the deadline and when if i be lynched today please lynch eek or fitz just get rid of them because when i flip town it should be obvious atleast one of these is scum highly likely both.
This will stop get a lynch day 2 and if anyone considers all of us town should be put under suspicion straight away these 3 wagons are the lynches today.

Time to dissect post 679

Wtf you took that so out of context I just wanted to know what banksy meant by that and banksy scumtell I will never say until I busted her with it.

Here's the stupid part of that post #248: You're asking regfan why banksys did something. Let me bold some words for you: You're asking regfan (pause for dramatic emphasis) why banksys did something.

Not to mention that what banksys said is completely irrelevant to the game at any stage. Of all the things (lol "all") banksys said, that is the post you're singling out? I can't even begin to understand why.

AND THIS WHY YOUR A FUCKING IDIOT REGFAN SAID HE HAD A IDEA WHAT THAT CERTAIN POST MEANS

In post 242, Street Hassle wrote:
Hey your predecessor scumclaimed and we're lynching you, sorry bro ;_;

Naw, Post 33 was actually pretty townie, surprised you missed it and yeah, I did the meta-reading before I replaced in, wanted to be sure (Still wasn't 100% sure but confident enough) and you've misread that entirely too.

i tch u how 2 scmhnt?

Let's recap:

As soon as you said this after I debunked your points I stopped taking you seriously below as they are already debunked from my previous post. I felt like you didn't address any of my points or try to debunk them and you have been ignoring my points from case and others against you as well from earlier posts.

In post 677, Garmr wrote:
In post 676, Garmr wrote:
In post 670, My Milked Eek wrote:
very defensive play over stupid reasons
#49 "I could see your post as an attempt to subtly diffuse a early wagon which we could get allot of information out of or a slight chainsaw defense as I feel like your post was insinuating I was acting scummy with out directly saying so to make me unvote Nutsy McSexytail thus making it a humming chainsaw." spoilers: it wasn't in the slightest insinuating anything.

Sigh the insinuation is the fact his post sounded like he would suspect me if i didn't vote lift my vote of Nutsy.


ebwop noticed that it could be misread corrected here

Sigh the insinuation is the fact his post sounded like he would suspect (Fake suspensions or real as that slots currently a null with silver bard) me and place his vote on me if i didn't vote lift my vote of Nutsy. I took this as a threat of scum trying to push me off the wagon.


Lol, also an ebwop, somehow this wasn't in my post, I did write it though.

The insinuation doesn't matter. What matters is your overreaction to a minor suspicion. That reaction being a thread long suspicion. Did I mention you suspected orestes yet?
This is suspicious an sich, but I'm coupling this with how you're handling your "case" against me. More specifically, you only started your "case" after I voted you. You're _very_ jumpy. Very.

I didn't feel like it came across as clear after rereading and wanting to make it known.

[Garmr]

ebwop

This will stop the chance of getting a no lynch before we hit day 2

[Herself]

Vote: Havingfitz

- Des

[Garmr]

so

fitz 4
garmr-3
Milked-4

[My Milked Eek]

You didn't need to shout.

Could you rephrase that post? I don't understand it.

[Herself]

Yes I did. You are town leading the counterwagon on town-Garmr for scum (Fitz and TvK).

ISO TvK, control+F "Garmr" and tell me you think he really believes this is the wagon he's been waiting all game for.

- Des

[Herself]

Also Milked townslipped when he said you were coaching, Garmr.

We're not lynching Milked today, we're lynching Fitz.

- Des

[My Milked Eek]

If you're talking to me, Herself, I was talking to garm...

But let me check that iso.

[Garmr]

Sorry i got pretty frustrated at that post because i thought it was obvious. Basically what I am saying is regfen brought up a certain banksy post and said everyone misread it. I asked him what he thought it meant. So when you said that me asking that question to reg about his predecessor was a scum tell I flipped a table.

[Garmr]

well not flipping a table precisely rather banging the computer desk with my fist and spilling coffee on my **** then screaming waking everyone up.

[My Milked Eek]

ISO TvK, control+F "Garmr" and tell me you think he really believes this is the wagon he's been waiting all game for.
- Des

I can see where you're coming from and what you mean, but I see a somewhat natural progression in his thoughts on garm going town-null-scum. Although TvK's 280 did come without a lead. Going from "good content" in #178 to null in #280. I don't really remember post# but I don't think garm did anything in those 100 posts.

I'm also seeing a lot of non-committal reads in his posts. I'm getting Oprah-esque visions "You're a townie! And you're a townie! Everyone is town!"

I'm opening up to the thought of TvK scum, but I think TvK would be bussing garm. Instead of a fitz-tvk pair, I see a TvK-garm-KidA thing going on if picturing TvK as scum.
CTRL+F Kid A on TvK's ISO. He goes from not liking Kid A and not understanding the town reads on Kid A (I don't either, but that's not the point) to a null read.

I'm not sure, I should read that more thoroughly.

[Garmr]

Coaches Kid A scum
#454 Sure, this requires you to think that Kid A scum, which _I_ do by the way. I might even link this to that one post garm made about street. I mentioned this higher up.

Not sure what the town slip is I read this many times am I missing something?

[Herself]

Why would scum accuse someone of coaching when they have daytalk and everyone knows it?

- Des

[The Silver Bard]

So I like MME’s post 670 on Garmr. It is simply too much effort involved for scum to do it, and especially considering that it doesn’t seem made up.

So

Unvote: My Milked Eek

Also I am leaning town on havingfitz. And have been feeling worse about Garmr lately.

These are the notes I have on garmr:
Townie:
49 : Somewhat likes this post. Brings opinions on players. Not taking stances though.

Scummy:
91: Buys Squirrel Girl and Herselfs arguements to easily, and even agree with them.
234: Nonsensical post. To seem active? Nothing to say about the game?
560: Like some of his reads, but not all. Some I really don't like. A weak scumpoint.
567: Don't like his one line posts 567-569
593: Sheeping onto herself. He is arguing poorly.

Haven’t reviewed my reads, and will reread and ISO Garmr later but will put my vote on him for now at least.
VOTE: Garmr

[Garmr]

I just lumped that with some of his other inaccurate statements which could of been answered if he read back and payed attention to be honest.

P-edit
Also

after silvers post

that's a

3-milked
4-garmr
4-fitz

1.560Also not liking some ones reads day 1 before any flip is a scum point??
2.234 makes perfect sense to me please explain what you don't find sensical
3.91 I misread SG post and what it means.
4.don't like 567-569 those were emotional posts You can choose to like them or not.
5.What ever I still see fitz as scum and I don't want to be drawn into a wall of quotes like herself was.

[Herself]

There are 2 scum in {Fitz, TvK, Bard}

You can take that to the fucking bank.

- Des

[Herself]

I am on board with My Milked Eek lynch. Mainly because the read list on 530 is full of nullreads and his reasoning isn't good. Also 7 posts the entire game gives me a "scum struggling finding anything to post"-feel.

Also I think there is an interesting link between MME and havingfitz, so figuring out MME might help figuring out havingfitz.

Unvote

VOTE: My Milked Eek

Look at how quickly Bard dropped this to wagon Garmr. And now Fitz is just a lean town.

His approach to scumhunting is atrocious and there's no conviction to his stances.

Fitz, Bard, TvK if the mafia gods were unusually gracious. More likely 2 of them and an unforeseen third.

- Des