Mini 1516: Mafia in Space (Game Over)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Day 1, Votecount 22

Street Hassle [1]

Kid A

Kid A [0]

TvK [0]

My Milked Eek [3]

Squirrel Girl, Garmr, ICEninja

LolWagons [0]

Regfan [0]

ICEninja [0]

Garmr [4]

My Milked Eek, havingfitz, TvK, The Silver Bard

Squirrel Girl [0]

The Silver Bard [0]

Wake88 [0]

Herself [0]

havingfitz [4]

Street Hassle, LolWagons, Regfan, Herself

Not Voting [1]

- Wake88

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is on November 23rd at 7:30 AM PST or in (expired on 2013-11-23 07:30:00)

[Regfan]

Street, I'll look over Kid A's meta another time, rather focus on other things at the moment (ie. Lynching Fitz). I know it's a shitty request to ask but can you ask Empire to come in here and go over some reads with me in the next day or so? I want to make sure that we at least get a scum lynch D1 and that I'm happy with the reads I have at the end of the day and back-and-forth with him is the best way for me to do that.

I actually read Milkeds case against Garm in Post 670 as super genuine and a massive town tell. That said I don't agree with a lot of his conclusions about Garmr, same goes with Post 679. I don't see that sort of case and detail coming from scum at all and his phrasing behind it and the "I'm being lynched, this is just thoughts for later" type attitude reads town. Seeing it the same way as Herself right now in Post 688, think it's Town!Milked, Town!Garmr and 2 scum in Fitz/Bard/TvK (With it more likely being Fitz/Bard). Also agree with the "Town-slip" in Post 689.

Didn't like TvK's vote change to Garmr in Post 682 but TSB's vote change on Garmr is actually significantly worse than TvK's, the "Townie" post being #49 doesn't make sense at all especially with his reasoning "not taking stances" should be a scum-tell and a lot of the "Scummy" points are things that can be attributed to anyone. Also read Silvers Post 738 as a fairly big scum-tell, especially the

"Heck, you can even lynch me first if you promise to lynch Garmr on day 2"

, it's a blatant gambit considering there's currently 0 votes on him and we're nearing the deadline. If people refuse to lynch Fitz (And I honestly can't understand that stance at all) then out of everyone else I'd want a TSB lynch.

Slaxx, I've been busy with finals the last few days (It's all over now though thankfully).

There should be no town reads on Kid A. I would be happy seeing him lynched here and now if for whatever reason we couldn't manage a MME lynch.

Eh, mine on him is weak as fuck but it's related to finding the little bit of scumhunting he's done as genuine (I liked his reasoning behind his Orestes vote, I liked his "If I feel the same" type comment about his Street read and I can see where he's coming from with it. That said I've got a lot of town reads so there's a good chance I've got one wrong somewhere (And I'll admit I didn't like how quick Kid A responded to his name being brought up while "Not being up to date with the thread), still not worth dealing with which weaker town read I've got wrong until later. Right now dealing with Fitz is a better idea. Also I think your scum read on Milked is wrong, I'd suggest doing a massive ISO of him again (Especially his posts in the last day) because I've got a fairly strong town read on him from it.

Spoiler: For Wake

Regfan

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Your posts are as big if not bigger than mine. What do you make of that?

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What's your read on The Silver Bard and MME, and have you made any changes?

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Who is your top current Scum read, and would you list three reasons why?

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Do you think Squirrel Girl has deliberately tried to find ways to lynch me?

1) That's something I agreed on and something I've been trying to work on (I try and only comment on things I'm most certain on or thoughts that I need to get across in my posts). I think the difference in our posts though is I think you're focusing a lot more on things I'm not reading as tells.

2) Gone into this above but I'm fairly sure Milked is town now and I think TSB is scum.

3) Strongest scum read is still Fitz and I'll give you two really strong ones: 1) I think his focus on who he's attacking and pushing on (Garmr/Herself ect.) is scum motivated and not him genuinely scumhunting 2) I think his entire interaction with Herself is him trying to covince them they're wrong on him and if he read them as scum he wouldn't care to do that (ie. His discussion with her comes across as him "knowing" she's town).

4) No. I think she's just irritated by you.

[Garmr]

Well i know it's a bit earlier than 32 hours from the deadline but I can already tell eek will be the one with the least votes.

VOTE: Having fitz

Now the two major will be between me and fitz.

[ICEninja]

Hmm I was feeling Garmr was the least likely to be scum out of the 3 main wagons, but that vote felt a hell of a lot more like self preservation than believing he's lynching scum.

I guess I could get on board with a fitz lynch but it still isn't my preference. God, town, you're driving me nuts. As soon as I feel like I'm sure I have scum that person becomes freaking difficult to lynch, which always happens when I'm right about scum on day 1 but I'm feeling a lot more useless this game than normal. Do my cases really suck that much? Nothing I've done all day has gotten much in the way of traction despite having quite a few players reading me town.

I swear I'm going to lose some hair over this game.

[Garmr]

I don't really mind just vote me or fitz. I you think i am trying to perserve myself and scum place your vote on me if you think fitz is scum place your vote on him.

[Garmr]

To be honest there's two scenario here.

We have 2 scum that jumped on my wagon to save a scum buddy and my wagon is scum orientated.

We have retarded town being shepard by one scum member and the other scum members saying how bad the towns are. If this is the case town need to smarten the fuck up.

Either way my lynch will provide information.

Either scenario fitz falls in as a scum candidate and should be dealt with swiftly. I also really can't be fucked being in a game where cases like eeks are considered semi decent. It was horrible and debunked with one post.

[My Milked Eek]

I don't have a lot of time during work, so real quick:

Just wanted to cheer up this fellow:

As soon as I feel like I'm sure I have scum that person becomes freaking difficult to lynch, which always happens when I'm right about scum on day 1 but I'm feeling a lot more useless this game than normal.

You're in no way useless if you can easily be read.

That's why I'm so frustrated at your play/posts. I read you as town, but your unwillingness to change your look on things out of fear of a no lynch (3 IRL days before deadline) is really annoying. A no-lynch isn't happening on this day.


I know I said I was going to ignore you, but I was too frustrated with you and your stubbornness last night.

[Garmr]

So milk if i get lynched and i flip town what are your reads for tommorow.

[My Milked Eek]

I'd go back and look at TvK and TSB. Although I really like my case on you, this is the one thing about my case that I don't like: those two switches. Not saying they're both scum, but it doesn't feel right and I think you agree on that?

TSB's switch feels really forced and more scummy than TvK's if I have to give an order to those two.

Aside from those two: Kid A. I think he's due for a prod in a few hours

Mod?

? The reasons I mentioned earlier on Kid A (before I made that case on you) and his (active) lurking are really suspicious.

[Street Hassle]

@regfan

Will do. It could be 12 hours or more before Empire's RL stuff allows much mafia time.

[havingfitz]

Looks like SG, ICE and Kid aren't getting their first preferences and need to move.

I suggest Garmr.

Wake providing thoughts\a vote would be nice also.

[Garmr]

^ There's scum on my wagon when if i get lynched you know who to lynch next.

[Street Hassle]

Regfan, I'm about to head to a job interview so I'll do my best to make time today, though by the looks of things there isn't all that much to discuss. I found TSB's vote change awful and would take his slot as an alternate lynch (though it means admitting Desperado was right which is just *vomit*)

[havingfitz]

Either scenario fitz falls in as a scum candidate and should be dealt with swiftly.

This makes no sense. You're just throwing shit out there and hoping some sticks.

[Garmr]

^

Herself to Garmr's rescue and the last three Garmr votes equal the scum team. Brilliant.

Talking about throwing shit

[havingfitz]

@garmr...wrt to Post 620; you "fucking told [me] why [you] suspect [me]?"  Where?  All you have said "for obvious reasons", that you "agree with Herself," and I am playing "scummy as hell."  Well thanks for that insight.  Who was accusing me of being lazy?  Lol?  Welcome to the club Garmr.  And why getting so angry at my request that you actually define your suspcions against me?

[Garmr]

tl:dr; someone please fcuking unvote me till I can address my accusers

lol so are we playing this game right fun fun but where will this get us.

[havingfitz]

^ what does that even show? I was getting this game mixed up with another. What does thinking I was at L-1 have to do with anything ?

And your "throwing shit" example is me pointing out fact. The last three people to vote you all landed in Herself's scum pool.

[Garmr]

^
What does it show your trying to get me in a mud slinging game and you might not be smart enough to realize it but your throwing shit as well...

Also I'm not responsible for herself nor do I know what herself alignments are. I do think herself is town and you are scum through

[ICEninja]

See Garmr's 775 just isn't coming from scum. It's probably between fitz and MME.

Ugh I have such a headache right now. I really hate lynching someone other than MME. He's already claimed, and I can tell scum is either pushing the Garmr wagon or the fitz wagon (probably Garmr wagon, I feel a LOT better about the fitz wagon at the moment) to get another claim.

This is not what I want but...

Unvote, vote havingfitz

. That's L-1. Please claim and do it quick we're running out of time.

If we mislynch this shit, it's NOT on me. I'm just doing this so we don't fucking no lynch, because you guys ignored my repeated warnings to come to a damn consensus.

[Kid A]

anyone else starting to feel ICEninja as scum

[The Silver Bard]

You guys are stupid for wanting to lynch havingfitz, and you are stupid for not seeing that it is clearly a scumdriven wagon (those og you that are town that is). And you are also stupid for not seing how obvious scum Garmr is.

[ICEninja]

Says the guy who has been solo voting the most town player in the game for quite some time? *Cough*

[TvK]

anyone else starting to feel ICEninja as scum

Once again he just pops in when someone mentions that he hasn't been posting in a while. I'd love to go after this guy somewhere in day 2.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

bump for vc