A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[ooba]

The whole they were good D1 crap.. they'll come in and be good.. No shit. Its Empire and Llamarable.. you don't think they could dangle shiny coins in front of you rednecks to go ooo ahhh at and all go yep yep town town.. like WTF are u expecting them to come in an do? Claim scum.

This is fucking pathetic.

Considering you were on TA's case for D4 and D5 - why do you have a problem with lynching TA first? At least Alfred had a good D1.

[Benmage]

When did I say I did?

[Titus]

Context. You are throwing a fit over AB not being lynched.

There is your lynch order post that suggests you shouldn't mind if TA goes first but prefer AB. Given they are both really high.

[Cephrir]

Explaing context is not after the fact errata. It is impossible to put all context into a post. That would require a) no pronoun usage at the start of a post b) constantly reaffirming every read I have, since hey context is now errata, and c) quoting everything anyone ever said. Your argument is ridiculous abd you are the only one pushing that after I explained. Quit tunnelling me and focus on what is happening.

VOTE: Alchemist

I am willing to give Tammy and ooba a chance to show AB is town given my other major scum wagon is gaining steam.

That still makes your complaining about people "taking you out of context" invalid seeing as they literally didn't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The whole they were good D1 crap.. they'll come in and be good.. No shit. Its Empire and Llamarable.. you don't think they could dangle shiny coins in front of you rednecks to go ooo ahhh at and all go yep yep town town.. like WTF are u expecting them to come in an do? Claim scum.

This is fucking pathetic.

So by this token we should never townread anyone ever? =S

[Titus]

Cephir what the hell are you saying now? It was taken out of context. I was an early pusher today, rather than going with the flow.

Alo, why the hell are you reaching the conclysion BM suggested no one be townread?

[Cephrir]

So you're saying you took yourself out of context then? *oonfused*

He pretty much said we shouldn't townread someone for acting like town, so... what are we supposed to do then? XD

[Benmage]

Context. You are throwing a fit over AB not being lynched.

There is your lynch order post that suggests you shouldn't mind if TA goes first but prefer AB. Given they are both really high.

What fit am I throwing for him not being lynched? Where did I ever say I won't lynch TA/don't want to lynch TA??

I'm "throwing a fit" at the idea that you all will write off AB's scumminess once he comes in and start posting. That mentality is fail.

The whole they were good D1 crap.. they'll come in and be good.. No shit. Its Empire and Llamarable.. you don't think they could dangle shiny coins in front of you rednecks to go ooo ahhh at and all go yep yep town town.. like WTF are u expecting them to come in an do? Claim scum.

This is fucking pathetic.

So by this token we should never townread anyone ever? =S

You don't ignore how scummy they've been simply because they come in and act a little towny... So the whole,

I'm willing to see them come in and play,

bit... is fucking useless.

He pretty much said we shouldn't townread someone for acting like town, so... what are we supposed to do then? XD

Wrong.

[Messiah Complex]

So you're saying you took yourself out of context then? *oonfused*

He pretty much said we shouldn't townread someone for acting like town, so... what are we supposed to do then? XD

ohmigodgoaway

He said that Borden had a great D1 and then took the scummiest route possible in literally every other day, and now everyone is just sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for Marble to show up and post something so they can townread him and lynch someone else.

Just to recap, Borden was universally townread since early D1 and proceeded to:

Push every major town wagon on D1 and D2
Fail to participate in either of the two scum lynches on D3 and D4
Reappear to quickhammer two town lynches and squelch discussion in the process on D5 and D6--with the coup de grace of AGar's early D6 absence and no kill N5 giving the most recent hammer even more scum motivation

But no, let's all just wait here for Marble to "step it" (??? he's the one who hammered the last two days) so we can reaffirm our townread and move on.

- Des

[Messiah Complex]

I don't think the Desperado's reasoning for Empire being scum is compelling. I'm worried about that slot, but anyone will have to come up with things that I would expect for him as town.

I think I have a slam dunk.

PS "jesus christ everyone is so scummy" isn't a very satisfactory answer. Can you be more specific?

- Des

[Titus]

Benmage, I am not ignoring AB's scuminess. I am fine if he dies. I am just voting my other scumread while I wait for the people arguing he's town to bring more than meta. Your actions seem to suggest AB is the only lynch you will accept today, like a high pressure sales tactic.

[Benmage]

Your actions seem to suggest AB is the only lynch you will accept today, like a high pressure sales tactic.

Not sure where you construed that from

my posting

... misinterpreting others aint my problem.

[Titus]

Your acting like everyone who isn't on the AB train is ignoring him gives that impression. You act as if he is not lynched today, he'll have some magic fairy dust that causes us to forget about AB if he posts. That is high pressures sales tctic.

[Benmage]

You act as if he is not lynched today, he'll have some magic fairy dust that causes us to forget about AB if he posts. That is high pressures sales tctic.

Actually that is pretty accurate. The more town we lose, the stronger scum voice become. Then the mindless sheep will be confounded looking at the magicians dangly shiny coins, and AB won't be lynched. Because he'll come in and "act towny" because wowzers its fucking Empire and Llamarable... so people will be swayed. And he will not be lynched. The longer we wait, the harder to lynch him it will become. TA can be lynched without batting an eye.

So yes.... it is more important to lynch AB today than TA is you find AB scummy.

Period.

You can't argue that. 2+2 still equals 4.

[Benmage]

Whose in here defending TA??? Noone.... has TA attempted to even defend herself? Nope... TA is a site troll and Faraday is a dumbass.

Whose defending AB???? TAMMY IS. One of the most universal strongest town reads in the game. WHOSE GOING TO FUCKING ARGUE WITH HER. None of these PUSSYs.. Why aren't more people hammering at AB?? Because his scum partners see no reason to bus. IS anyone rescuing TA?? OR COACHING him in the scumqt to wake the fuck up?? OR IS SHE STILL TROLLING THE SHIT OUT OF US. You all want to policy lynch onDay fucking 7 when you have one of the juicyiest more difficult scums to lynch dangling right in front of you. REACH out and grab it. For fucks sake... mindlessfucking-fucks.

Ya I wanted TA for like 4 days. But not today. Not when we can lynch a scumslot like AB.

[Cephrir]

A) Perhaps AB is being defended because there's a better chance they're town

b) TA has nonetheless somehow gone 6 days of complete uselessness without being lynched

[Titus]

Wow. Apparently your brain works Cephir when you aren't talking to me.

Benmage, you are fear talking. Objective reason says if both TA nd AB are scum, we cn lynch one today and he other tomorrow.

[Cephrir]

Hint: My brain actually works all the time

[Benmage]

Alternative reasons suggests TA lived 6 days of trolling because scum saved that mislynchbait for later.

WHILE reasoning of AB being scum and the difficulty in which it will be to lynch him on future days is still sound.

Checkmate.

Go ahead, town only win 20% of large themes, and Faraday likes scum, so I don't even care. Run and lose! HOORAH!

[Titus]

Why the hell s TA so high on your list if you believe he is town?

The third explanation is both AB and TA are scum and the scum are trying for a third wagon but cannot too hard for fear of looking suspicious.

[Benmage]

There's no 3rd wagon today. TA is high on my list because I want him dead asap. I do not want him anywhere near endgame. But you are 100% correct in that if we do not lynch AB today he will become virtually impossible to lynch on future days. Period.

And paranoia that people only recognize TA as scum 6 days into his useless shit when suddenly we want to lynch AB suggests that scum did save that for a mislynch.

[Titus]

Benmage, I believe both TA and AB are both equally lynchable. You are fearmongering.

[Messiah Complex]

Benmage, I believe both TA and AB are both equally lynchable. You are fearmongering.

Is he though? We've already seen one instance where someone's prowess for the game almost out shadowed their ability to be read objectively. Spyrex seems to ring bells for some reason. If you have 2 equally scummy people why fight for the lesser of 2 evils. This is like trying to decide between taking out Hitler or one of his guards.

[Cephrir]

Alternatively, why not keep the one that could actually be helpful if town.

There's a flip side to all these arguments and the right answer is 'lynch the scummiest one first'. If you think that's AB, great.

[Benmage]

Ceph, What makes today different than 6 days ago for TA?

Where is the scum logic in trolling??

[Cephrir]

Nothing. I've wanted to lynch it all of those days.