Mini 1524: Olympian Gods Mafia - Game Over

[Wisdom]

And lol

When do mollie's pushes ever make sense?

[Desperado]

All the fucking time--we've been hydraing lately. The level of synchronicity is spooky. I am NOT getting that right now from her.

[Desperado]

And you're okay with such nonsense. You're not this stupid.

It's more like I don't think Whiskers is in a position to do anything about his conspiracy theory so I'm not worried about it right now.

[shos]

wisdom.
it seems like you are being Matt's pet. the moment he just mentioned a possibility that he has to reread me, you flipped and all of a sudden you're not even voting me.

tell me, what made you decide to move your vote?

[MattP]

I think desp and whiskers are town

[Wisdom]

wisdom.
it seems like you are being Matt's pet. the moment he just mentioned a possibility that he has to reread me, you flipped and all of a sudden you're not even voting me.

tell me, what made you decide to move your vote?

From experience, when I am sure about someone being scum and someone disagrees, the one I thought is scum is actually town, and the one who disagreed is scum WKing the town.

[pirate mollie]

Like it really looks like Whiskers is being voted for being a big meanie and for not being one of the cool kids.

^Does no one understand that Whisker's "hostility" is related to feeling left out/threatened by a bunch of people who clearly know each other and are using tools that he can't given the circumstances?

You in particular, mollie, should have seen this. Whisker looks exactly like I looked in Maniacal.

have you lost your mind

she looks

nothing

like you in maniacal. if anything she looks like sg did in grey's anatomy with her starting her crap with me and getting pissy over nothing jesus we just saw this. we also saw with etl in sabotage and baby spice in maniacal and I don't care what you say *grits teeth* melting down over nothing IS a scumtell

melting down is 1 thing, every1 meltsdown at some point during a game. but there a progression that makes sense as to why they are melting down and you can see the warning signs. whiskers didn't show any of them.

[shos]

that's bullshit.

[pirate mollie]

who are you talking to shos

[Desperado]

I don't think Whiskers has melted down. I think she feels left out and is lashing out in response.

[pirate mollie]

I don't think Whiskers has melted down. I think she feels left out and is lashing out in response.

I am not seeing that. she isn't whinging about cliques or getting all varsoony. it isn't directed at the group as a whole except for the meta stuff but is directed

at me specifically

. <------ it is the player specificity that I find scummy. she is doing the exact same thing to me that etl did to you and I can't believe that you are giving her a pass.

[Desperado]

No she isn't. I caught ETL red handed and she didn't know what to do but yell at me and call some names.

Whiskers is "being mean" to wisdom and Matt too. The meta thing and yiu and them all point to town who thinks highly of their play and can sense themselves being pushed to the side by a group of people who knew each other previously.

[pirate mollie]

No she isn't. I caught ETL red handed and she didn't know what to do but yell at me and call some names.

Whiskers is "being mean" to wisdom and Matt too. The meta thing and yiu and them all point to town who thinks highly of their play and can sense themselves being pushed to the side by a group of people who knew each other previously.

I disagree. that isn't what I am seeing at all. show me where you see that

[Wisdom]

Desp, he's not just "being mean". He is misrepping and calling us scum.

[shos]

I was talking to wisdom, obviously, are you reading the thread?

and wis nobody misrepped you here. you have probably missed the part where matt's posting seems to have only helped YOU. from our POV, that's all shit, both you and matt at the time. Matt's later posting became good and legit(even if wrong ofc). yours did quite the opposite.

[Wisdom]

I think the fact that Wisdom can't understand and has to dip his fingers into every post MattP makes, makes Wisdom more likely scum

This is a misrep, there's no post of Matt's that I didn't understand.

[shos]

it sure sounds like it, tho.

for example, that first example that you gave - the 'reaction test'. well. firstly, I'm like 99% sure that this was not a reaction test, and rather it was just a bullshit lie matt was saying which is perfectly fine because that's what people say in RVS.

Matt - was it planned to be a reaction test or not?

-to confirm. then, you say that you called the RT, and pretended to not know that this is a reaction test. that sounds the most fake you can say EVER. that's really not even close.

[shos]

*

Hey, thanks for answering a question I addressed to someone else.

your welcome since I answered after the person who you addressed to answered!

Wrong again! You answered

immediately

after I asked it, in the very next post, in fact. As in, my question was 120, and your answer was 121.
So are you lying, or just stupid?

okay. so you think he was being defensive yet faking defensiveness.

wow cool. try reading.

tbh I am not even sure what we are talking about even more

tbh i am not even surprised.

idgi

of course you don't.

oh my god how the hell did we not see this guys. this post is SUCH FUCKING BULLSHIT. I mean seriously. WHAT THE FUCK.

VOTE: whiskers

[MattP]

There have been a lot of very beautiful games where Kanye and I are town and immediately buddied each other hardcore because we knew, because we could read each other well and relied on that ability. People got very butthurt and called us scum. We were both town. I can provide links.

I'm reading Wisdom well. I know he's town. In fact, he's my strongest townread. He's reading me well. That's great. That's going to cause huge overlapping of reads and in-thread mason-like discussion. It happens, and it's not exclusive or selfish or scummy, having someone you can trust is very powerful. Us working together like this, even if you think we're gaining nothing from it, is astronomically beneficial. We will never lynch each other and we will defend the other hardcore, and that will prevent a mislynch we are both positive of. Anyone being annoying and bullying us for that is more likely scum trying to damage a strong town-town alliance than paranoid town trying to break apart supposed buddying.

[MattP]

it sure sounds like it, tho.

for example, that first example that you gave - the 'reaction test'. well. firstly, I'm like 99% sure that this was not a reaction test, and rather it was just a bullshit lie matt was saying which is perfectly fine because that's what people say in RVS.

Matt - was it planned to be a reaction test or not?

-to confirm. then, you say that you called the RT, and pretended to not know that this is a reaction test. that sounds the most fake you can say EVER. that's really not even close.

I have no idea what you're asking here. All of my posts had meaning this entire game, sans posts where I was patting myself on the back or being snarky. My initial conversation with Wisdom was me trying to get a read on him. Similarly, my first conversation with Nacho was me trying to read him. I know Nacho well, and I got my read quickly. Wisdom was doing enough on his own, and in my convo with him, to demonstrate his alliance. I don't see how this is so confusing or deserves discussion. What is so damn wrong with us town-reading each other?

[Elyse]

Votecount 1.06

Nachomamma8 - 1 - ArcAngel9 (L-6)
penguin_alien - 1 - Malakittens (L-6)
Mirari - 1 - penguin_alien (L-6)
shos - 3 - MattP, Mirari, Nachomamm8 (L-4)
Malakittens - 1 - Grimgroove (L-6)
Whiskers - 4 - pirate mollie, Wisdom, ooba, shos (L-3)
MattP - 1 - Whiskers (L-6)
pirate mollie - 1 - Desperado (L-6)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline: (expired on 2013-12-21 12:00:00)
Mirari is V/LA until Sunday.

Interesting Fact #7: Hermes is the messenger of gods and leads dead souls to the Underworld.

[Wisdom]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: shos

[shos]

You misunderstood. I asked if post 23 was a planned reaction test or not. Plain and simple.

[Nachomamma8]

Can't really post right now but I wanna apologize in advance nacho for when I vote you out of paranoia in like a hundred pages from now

I forgive you in advance
Although I don't expect the game to go long enough for you to get paranoid of me.

Nacho sheeping people felt a little weird, I'm too used to him being the leader. At least he agrees with the reads.

It's fun to sheep sometimes!

looks like I'm going to be today's lynch, but it's not too bad, and much information will float from this wagon. so spam the thread as you wish guyz, you have at least 18 hours free from shos

This is pretty fatalistic for the recipient of the first serious wagon of the game, don't you think?

- Mollie's tone seems off - I have a town baseline and this is not it. But that's based off one game and Mala apparently has more experience on mollie's game so disregarding my meta knowledge for now

Is this the game that we played together?

Whiskers - Scum

I have trouble seeing scum flying so thoroughly down the rabbit hole so early; the "Nacho is trying to manipulate everyone into thinking being overdefensive is a scumtell early" would be an conspiracy theory to break out right of the gate, and full tilt on MattP based on the weird things Whiskers picks up on with the conviction Whiskers is pushing it would be immensely impressive for Whiskers-scum.

@ Mollie: Why are you hesitant to vote shos when he was intentionally playing scummy in Doctor mafia because he was the nurse? He said as much in thread. I also agree with Ooba, your Whiskers vote just looks like sour grapes to me. Who do you actually think is scum?

how does it look like sour grapes

Why is Whiskers scum?

the pissiness looks fake and it looks like she is trying to work at coming up with a reason as to why nacho is scum and I am not town scum reading nacho but if whiskers flips scum nacho is for sure town but to me it is more about the fake meltdowns

You don't have a read on me? Why not? And why would you try to read me through Whiskers's flip?

[Nachomamma8]

Desp is a strong strong townread for his push on mollie; doesn't strike me as something that he'd try if there's no way in hell he's getting her mislynched, and the conviction of not matching up is serious :goodvibes:.