Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:16 am

In post 421, Deacon Blues wrote:My approach to reading and working with ProHawk's been seriously influenced by your observations in the cash cabd game neighborhood. I feel like you're not walking your talk.

By pushing on him?

In post 422, Deacon Blues wrote:I felt like your reaction to that looked a little disingenuous.

My reaction to his attack on me? Why?

In post 423, Deacon Blues wrote:Why did you choose Tammy to push on in your opening post?

Because her opening post was boring, seemed overly terse. Thought I was sensing a bit of weakness, couldn't pass up the opportunity to catch Tammy-scum in one post and make up for chosen mafia. I did research into her other opening posts and everything!

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:20 am

You are an extraordinarily slow typist, ffery. I feel like I'm playing chat mafia with you.

Deacon Blues · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:23 am

In post 425, Nachomamma8 wrote:By pushing on him?

By failing at something you usually do so well - seeing how the reaction to your push could come from a town mindset.

In post 405, Nachomamma8 wrote:How am I poisoning a well by attacking you?

bork and I both thought this was bad, because your attack had a huge BoP component.

Ms Marangal · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:24 am

SAKURA

Deacon Blues · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:25 am

In post 426, Nachomamma8 wrote:You are an extraordinarily slow typist, ffery. I feel like I'm playing chat mafia with you.

Are you implying that this time it's alignment indicative, or just messing with me?

Deacon Blues · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:27 am

In post 428, Ms Marangal wrote:SAKURA

Question for you in post 399.

Ms Marangal · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:29 am

In post 399, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 395, Ms Marangal wrote:I think both Nacho votes are coming from town
What specifically gave you a townread on prohawk?

reasoning he had with his vote

pedit: i'm gettin to everything chill

Ms Marangal · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:32 am

In post 414, Tammy wrote:
In post 368, Ms Marangal wrote:
In post 158, Tammy wrote:Just so you all know, there are too many quote stripers here. I mean I guess it's a nice balance to the spam posting ala moi but dayum, my eyes glazes over.

I will actually read the game when not skimming on my phone later, just wanted to whine. Oh and I want to give fuzzy a hug, which means he's town.
This is coming from you?
Is this sarcasm?

No.

I found it weird that you thought there were to many quote strips considering that you are a known waller (I think)

Deacon Blues · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:33 am

In post 148, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 64, Ms Marangal wrote:Tammy-town?
Why? You didn't get the joke and there was nothing else in that singular post of hers.

This post doesn't really feel like your usual inquisitiveness.

Deacon Blues · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:34 am

Now who's the slow typist.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:34 am

IS THAT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE OR ARE YOU JUST MESSING WITH ME
;[

Deacon Blues · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:37 am

I don't use capslock often enough.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:39 am

In post 427, Deacon Blues wrote:By failing at something you usually do so well - seeing how the reaction to your push could come from a town mindset.

I see how it comes from a town mindset, but I also see how it could come from a scum mindset. I'm sure you can see both sides easily, and I'm sure you wouldn't mind firming up your read on ProHawk a little more. If you have a solid townread on him at the moment, then you're underestimating him quite a bit.

In post 427, Deacon Blues wrote:bork and I both thought this was bad, because your attack had a huge BoP component.

I still don't understand how I was poisoning the well.

In post 433, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 148, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 64, Ms Marangal wrote:Tammy-town?
Why? You didn't get the joke and there was nothing else in that singular post of hers.
This post doesn't really feel like your usual inquisitiveness.

I have no idea how to respond to this. I briefly considered squiggles, but then decided that wouldn't get us anywhere.

Ms Marangal · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:47 am

Squiggles?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:49 am

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Deacon Blues · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:50 am

In post 437, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I see how it comes from a town mindset, but I also see how it could come from a scum mindset
. I'm sure you can see both sides easily, and I'm sure you wouldn't mind firming up your read on ProHawk a little more. If you have a solid townread on him at the moment, then you're underestimating him quite a bit.

ffery is at town-prohawk right now. I'm getting there but I'm rereading the evolution of the argument between the two of you, and at the moment because I don't feel comfortable sheeping either of you onto the other without falling prey to whomever is making the better argument at the time.

re: the underlined: seems to be that you're arguing that it necessarily (or at least really likely) is coming from a scum mindset; how would town prohawk respond differently to pressure, then?

Deacon Blues · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:54 am

In post 437, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 427, Deacon Blues wrote:By failing at something you usually do so well - seeing how the reaction to your push could come from a town mindset.
I see how it comes from a town mindset, but I also see how it could come from a scum mindset. I'm sure you can see both sides easily, and I'm sure you wouldn't mind firming up your read on ProHawk a little more. If you have a solid townread on him at the moment, then you're underestimating him quite a bit.

Maybe. If I am I think I'll figure it out.

In post 427, Deacon Blues wrote:bork and I both thought this was bad, because your attack had a huge BoP component.
I still don't understand how I was poisoning the well.

This is the post:

In post 251, Nachomamma8 wrote:THIS is your reaction to the flashwagon on you? No diatribes on why everyone sheeping me is a bad idea and shows incredible scum motivation, no rage and anger on how you can't believe that the town is this lazy and horrible? And hell, even lacking that, no analysis and instead easy obvious scumreads? Come on, hawkie. You're a much better player than this.

This was like a one paragraph distillation of 2 pages or so worth of walling that you and I did in GiF's micro while you tried to sort me.

If you had hit me with a distillation like that you would have gotten back something very close to what ProHawk posted, laced with my own particular brand of snark.

We're different people, but I don't care who you're trying to sort, a paragraph as laden with that much "you suck so bad this time you have to be scum" is not going to go anywhere good. It can take me the better part of a gameday or more to recover from the kind of reaction that elicits and start acting like my alignment again.

In post 433, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 148, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 64, Ms Marangal wrote:Tammy-town?
Why? You didn't get the joke and there was nothing else in that singular post of hers.
This post doesn't really feel like your usual inquisitiveness.
I have no idea how to respond to this. I briefly considered squiggles, but then decided that wouldn't get us anywhere.

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It's kinda of a piece with what I'm already yelling at you about. You could have left the comment at "Why?" rather than shutting off directions the answer could go and narrowing the focus like that.

It feels like tryhard scumhunting. :/

Ms Marangal · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:56 am

Deacon Blues · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:57 am

In post 442, Ms Marangal wrote::/

sup

Ms Marangal · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:59 am

I'm lost, and confused

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:59 am

In post 440, Deacon Blues wrote:re: the underlined: seems to be that you're arguing that it necessarily (or at least really likely) is coming from a scum mindset; how would town prohawk respond differently to pressure, then?

ProHawk would immediately go after me for being antitown as hell with my big wagons without any debate. A wagon forming in the way that it did means that there's no real way to distinguish between town or scum jumping on the wagon; Prohawk would be likely to express that as well. I didn't like the ease that he picked two names to be scum from the wagon with (considering the wagon gave no information whatsoever based on who jumped on it), and I didn't like I wasn't named in his suspects until I reaffirmed my push on him. Timing was late.

Deacon Blues · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:00 am

@mara: Just about the gamestate in general? Let's just narrow the scope a bit:

Who are your biggest reads in either direction and why?

Deacon Blues · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:01 am

In post 445, Nachomamma8 wrote:A wagon forming in the way that it did means that there's no real way to distinguish between town or scum jumping on the wagon; Prohawk would be likely to express that as well.

I do agree with this.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:02 am

In post 445, Nachomamma8 wrote:I didn't like the ease that he picked two names to be scum from the wagon with (considering the wagon gave no information whatsoever based on who jumped on it)...

I did that, too. Yet you don't seem to give two licks about me.

Deacon Blues · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:04 am

In post 447, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 445, Nachomamma8 wrote:A wagon forming in the way that it did means that there's no real way to distinguish between town or scum jumping on the wagon; Prohawk would be likely to express that as well.
I do agree with this.

Well, to be clear: I agree with it in the sense that all other things being equal, there is no way that, in the microcosm of that wagon and nothing around it, to cherry pick the scum.

But I don't really think that's what he was doing.