Yet Another Dance of the Title Fairy: Change Up

[mastin2]

@mastin. Which of all suggested is your favorite ?

That's actually a tough question. But since you've asked...I always have a soft-spot for paperback writer. (Yes, I know the song it's from, and yes I know what it's mainly about. The title's grown on me over the years.) It might have originally been for excessively-long-windedness, but is surprisingly good.

I have a similar fondness for stylish, because it was one of the first times people acknowledged that I was trying to reform from the bad person I used to be into a respectable mafiascum citizen.

What Would Mastin Do (And ETL's revival of it) has gained new meaning as of the recent in-jokes I've been trading with people, so it's no longer an AP-specific in-joke.

I've thought about ":P" being my title myself. I loved manual maker. Stay a while and listen I also thought was brilliant. For a change might be a bit generic, but I liked it.

Then there's Safe Behind My Walls (as discussed) and scripsi, ergo sum.

If I had to pick a favorite of favorites, though, it'd probably be Tome of Knowledge. But again. All of these are my personal tastes in titles. Not what the community has suggested as a whole. I'm not going to shove a title that I want down your throats.

[Oversoul]

agh so harsh

You and DRK just couldn't quietly let Tome of Knowledge flourish.

[KittyMo]

mastin2 ->

Megalomaniac

Let's make it a thing.

Third

[Mr. Flay]

Nth

Safe Behind My Walls

- it's inferior to several he won't accept, but still gets at the essential mastinness.

[Umbrage]

this mastin thing has been going on for too long

he wants Tome of Knowledge, give him that and we can all shut up about it

[Kublai Khan]

Title Fairy Policy:

1. Accounts must be at least six months old before they can be nominated.
2. There is no requirements for nominating someone.
3. Self nominations will not be accepted.
4. Nominations based on avatars will not be accepted.
5. Recipients must approve of the title.
6. This thread is for title discussion only.

I think Buttons needs to exercise his authority. Abuse of Rule #5 is causing the spirit of Rule #3 to be violated. People, like mastin (& there have been others), are constantly refusing perfectly fine titles because they want to nudge towards a preferred title.

The Titling on his site has been a fine tradition of "hey, we as a site recognize you as having made a great, funny, and/or super interesting contribution to this site. Here's a title!" to which the recipient responds with "Hey! I don't find that title insulting! So be it!" Then the Title Fairy acts and all are happy.

Now lately it's a series of manipulative jockeying of "no.. that's not quite right. Try again, peons! I DEMAND BETTER!" and the fun is dead.

This happened on your watch, Buttons. Either fix it or let it be your shameful legacy.

[TheButtonmen]

I'm really not a fan of how the Mastin thing has kept playing out given that my entire stance on the titling process was to make it quick and easy to avoid long drawn out discussions going in circles. However at the moment given that it's the only game in town and not drowning out other title discussions I'm not quite at the abuse of power point at the moment.

[Kublai Khan]

Booo. Gotta take things into my own hands. Let's get a gang-up with this title:

mastin2 ->

Mafia Goon

It's the shaming title for those who refuse too much.

[TheButtonmen]

Actually I miscounted!

Safe Behind My Walls

hit the required 5 supports and Mastin seems to be okay with it.

3rd Safe Behind My Walls

because it made me smile when I thought about Mastin triumphantly standing on a wall of walltexts, Jesus-hair and all.

(I can't unsee that image, either. ) Though the meaning behind the title might not be immediately obvious, it's there. It

does

define me a lot. It's not obvious, its first meaning can send off the wrong impression, but if you get the actual meaning...you GET it. So, probably not the best title...but one which I am quite willing to accept.

So we're going to run with it.

[Kublai Khan]

And the crowd goes mild.

[RichardGHP]

Title Fairy Policy:

1. Accounts must be at least six months old before they can be nominated.
2. There is no requirements for nominating someone.
3. Self nominations will not be accepted.
4. Nominations based on avatars will not be accepted.
5. Recipients must approve of the title.
6. This thread is for title discussion only.

I think Buttons needs to exercise his authority. Abuse of Rule #5 is causing the spirit of Rule #3 to be violated. People, like mastin (& there have been others), are constantly refusing perfectly fine titles because they want to nudge towards a preferred title.

The Titling on his site has been a fine tradition of "hey, we as a site recognize you as having made a great, funny, and/or super interesting contribution to this site. Here's a title!" to which the recipient responds with "Hey! I don't find that title insulting! So be it!" Then the Title Fairy acts and all are happy.

Now lately it's a series of manipulative jockeying of "no.. that's not quite right. Try again, peons! I DEMAND BETTER!" and the fun is dead.

This happened on your watch, Buttons. Either fix it or let it be your shameful legacy.

Not to defend mastin2's own ego, but if people aren't happy with title nominations, they shouldn't have to accept them, no matter how popular. Rule #3 is there to stop anyone just walking in and asking for a title like in the old days, not to prevent universally known and popular users actively participating in the process of their own titling. At least, that's how I see it. TheButtonmen can and should correct me if I'm wrong here.

(Not that it really matters much now, anyway.)

[Papa Zito]

woo

[Kublai Khan]

Title Fairy Policy:

1. Accounts must be at least six months old before they can be nominated.
2. There is no requirements for nominating someone.
3. Self nominations will not be accepted.
4. Nominations based on avatars will not be accepted.
5. Recipients must approve of the title.
6. This thread is for title discussion only.

I think Buttons needs to exercise his authority. Abuse of Rule #5 is causing the spirit of Rule #3 to be violated. People, like mastin (& there have been others), are constantly refusing perfectly fine titles because they want to nudge towards a preferred title.

The Titling on his site has been a fine tradition of "hey, we as a site recognize you as having made a great, funny, and/or super interesting contribution to this site. Here's a title!" to which the recipient responds with "Hey! I don't find that title insulting! So be it!" Then the Title Fairy acts and all are happy.

Now lately it's a series of manipulative jockeying of "no.. that's not quite right. Try again, peons! I DEMAND BETTER!" and the fun is dead.

This happened on your watch, Buttons. Either fix it or let it be your shameful legacy.

Not to defend mastin2's own ego, but if people aren't happy with title nominations, they shouldn't have to accept them, no matter how popular. Rule #3 is there to stop anyone just walking in and asking for a title like in the old days, not to prevent universally known and popular users actively participating in the process of their own titling. At least, that's how I see it. TheButtonmen can and should correct me if I'm wrong here.

(Not that it really matters much now, anyway.)

I know. I just really hate dithering.

[Mr. Flay]

Title Fairy Policy:

1. Accounts must be at least six months old before they can be nominated.
2. There is no requirements for nominating someone.
3. Self nominations will not be accepted.
4. Nominations based on avatars will not be accepted.
5. Recipients must approve of the title.
6. This thread is for title discussion only.

I think Buttons needs to exercise his authority. Abuse of Rule #5 is causing the spirit of Rule #3 to be violated. People, like mastin (& there have been others), are constantly refusing perfectly fine titles because they want to nudge towards a preferred title.

The Titling on his site has been a fine tradition of "hey, we as a site recognize you as having made a great, funny, and/or super interesting contribution to this site. Here's a title!" to which the recipient responds with "Hey! I don't find that title insulting! So be it!" Then the Title Fairy acts and all are happy.

Now lately it's a series of manipulative jockeying of "no.. that's not quite right. Try again, peons! I DEMAND BETTER!" and the fun is dead.

This happened on your watch, Buttons. Either fix it or let it be your shameful legacy.

Not to defend mastin2's own ego, but if people aren't happy with title nominations, they shouldn't have to accept them, no matter how popular. Rule #3 is there to stop anyone just walking in and asking for a title like in the old days, not to prevent universally known and popular users actively participating in the process of their own titling. At least, that's how I see it. TheButtonmen can and should correct me if I'm wrong here.

(Not that it really matters much now, anyway.)

Hence why we should stop renomming people right after they reject one. Okay, you didn't like it, see you in six months when you've done something new and different for us to title off of.

It's the back-and-forth between the nominators and the nominee that gets into this sense of "you're getting warmer..."

[Jake from State Farm]

I don't see why people just can't have whatever they want.

[Jake from State Farm]

How about "the second coming" for mastin since he thinks he looks like Jesus

[chamber]

How about "the second coming" for mastin since he thinks he looks like Jesus

I'd second this.

[Tamuz]

The biggest issue is that this thread is just becoming a circlejerk for mastin's ego so everything is getting forced

[Jake from State Farm]

Well nobody is nomming anyone else.

[Cheery Dog]

The biggest issue is that this thread is just becoming a circlejerk for mastin's ego so everything is getting forced

Practically the whole non-mafia forums had become mastin-ego boosting.

[Mina]

Third "The Second Coming" for mastin2.

It doesn't reference the verbosity, but it's positive and works because of the WWMD thing, his resemblance to Jesus, Mastin's resurrection as mastin2, and the hype he receives. And it's actually funny, unlike milquetoast stuff like "Safe Behind His Walls."

I don't want this to come across as an attack on mastin, who often has insightful things to say. And certain people are being far harsher than they need to be. No one should feel pressured to accept an insulting title just to be the butt of someone else's joke. But "Tome of Knowledge" is just such a fawning, over-the-top title that it's only human nature to react badly to either the hubris in unironically suggesting it for yourself or the sycophancy in unironically suggesting it for someone else. People don't like arrogance.

Also, there's a trend on mafiascum (with fads like the Cult of UberNinja or the Flowchartians) that repeating over and over again that you're smart, good at Mafia, popular, etc., will get a large contingent of the site to take your word for it without questioning you. So no matter how useful you think mastin's MD threads are, shoving their usefulness down people's throats creates a backlash.

[quadz08]

Buttons literally

just gave mastin a title

can we please stop talking about him now

[Jake from State Farm]

all i want for christmas is a title

[Who]

And it's actually funny, unlike milquetoast stuff like "Safe Behind His Walls."

Fourth "The Second Coming" for Mastin2

[DeathRowKitty]

Buttons literally

just gave mastin a title

can we please stop talking about him now

He gave mastin the title "Mafia Scum"?