Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

Tammy · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:09 pm

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rufflig

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:11 pm

@ Mafia
somehow skimmed over your answer sorry

MafiaSSK · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:12 pm

In post 600, Tammy wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: rufflig

Mind if I ask, why?

Minami no Hana · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:13 pm

Apparently when playing with SSK all votes need to be accompanied with giant walls of text.

On other news I have real life issues and haven't been able to attend this game nor will be able to tomorrow (full day work on a Saturday FML), and giffy's sick so prob. wont see anything from us until Sunday.

PEd: Oh and apparently Tammy's worth asking "why" and we arent even worth asking "why" \:D/

Tammy · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:13 pm

In post 602, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 600, Tammy wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: rufflig
Mind if I ask, why?

going back to my first gut read.

Deacon Blues · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:15 pm

In post 597, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 593, Deacon Blues wrote:Because you're not even trying to read me.
I never know with you though. I read you as town for the most part, but this game you've seemed off.

Every single game I'm a little different. I'm not a robot.

And this hydra is a new collaboration. We get along pretty well, I think, but I can tell that my reads are more generous than bork's are. That's probably a good thing.

I want to learn how to read you on my own. I have not seen you put as much heart and soul into a game since, as you did in Paradox Prime. I misread you in that game, and so did ViTierce. And that combination led to your lynch.

I don't like repeating mistakes like that. So, give me some data that can lead to a better read, and I'll try to do the same.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:16 pm

In post 603, Minami no Hana wrote:Apparently when playing with SSK all votes need to be accompanied with giant walls of text.

On other news I have real life issues and haven't been able to attend this game nor will be able to tomorrow (full day work on a Saturday FML), and giffy's sick so prob. wont see anything from us until Sunday.

PEd: Oh and apparently Tammy's worth asking "why" and we arent even worth asking "why" \:D/

No. They need to be made with more than one sentence behind them. Which they all weren't.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:18 pm

In post 605, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 597, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 593, Deacon Blues wrote:Because you're not even trying to read me.
I never know with you though. I read you as town for the most part, but this game you've seemed off.
Every single game I'm a little different. I'm not a robot.

And this hydra is a new collaboration. We get along pretty well, I think, but I can tell that my reads are more generous than bork's are. That's probably a good thing.

I want to learn how to read you on my own. I have not seen you put as much heart and soul into a game since, as you did in Paradox Prime. I misread you in that game, and so did ViTierce. And that combination led to your lynch.

I don't like repeating mistakes like that. So, give me some data that can lead to a better read, and I'll try to do the same.

I so don't remember PxP. It was my first game back and I was a different player then.

But I mean you always seem to talk about how you're different from game to game, but everyone has a basic tone that carries across. Yours here has been different than the one's I've seen you with when you're town.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:30 pm

How about this

Your comment about No Hana being a more active lurker makes no sense since she has posted alot more than you , have tried to scum hunt and tried to make reads. You answer came off as hypocritical and ungenuine. Your vote on me seems to be based on playstyle... which a better player would know not to do. Honestly this seems like an attack on me bc I questioned if you were scum and were possible going to vote for you. As for your excuse for not replacing out I just dont buy it.... Your vote on Hana seems like a bit of a stretch. Sorry but I am reading you as scum

VOTE: MafiaSSK

MafiaSSK · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:42 pm

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:How about this

Your comment about No Hana being a more active lurker makes no sense since she has posted alot more than you , have tried to scum hunt and tried to make reads. You answer came off as hypocritical and ungenuine. Your vote on me seems to be based on playstyle... which a better player would know not to do. Honestly this seems like an attack on me bc I questioned if you were scum and were possible going to vote for you. As for your excuse for not replacing out I just dont buy it.... Your vote on Hana seems like a bit of a stretch. Sorry but I am reading you as scum

VOTE: MafiaSSK

There we go. That's a good block that I respect. But the reasons inside are a bunch of crap. Let's break this up ya'll.

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Your comment about No Hana being a more active lurker makes no sense since she has posted alot more than you , have tried to scum hunt and tried to make reads. You answer came off as hypocritical and ungenuine.

Being hypocritical isn't a scumtell.
Being ungenuine, I can't defend, as it's an opinion. But, I'm being as genuine as possible.

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Your vote on me seems to be based on playstyle... which a better player would know not to do.

Playstyle is partially based off of alignment. So a better player would be able to detect when a playstyle is leaning towards that player's scum playstyle.

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:As for your excuse for not replacing out I just dont buy it....

That's cool. It's not scummy nor is it true, seeing as that is my reason for staying in. But whatever.

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Your vote on Hana seems like a bit of a stretch.

I explained my reasoning. It's not a stretch. It's what I see as the greatest reasons why someone would be scum in this game.

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Sorry but I am reading you as scum

If you are truly apologetic, that's bad. You have to be feeling guilty of something. In this case, it's that you're lying. You know that I'm town and you know that you're voting me for reasons that aren't true. You're the scum.

Tammy · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:52 pm

In post 80, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote: @ Deacon and Pitoli

Curious about your reads so far

Why did you ask pitoli here?

Tammy · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:55 pm

actually

VOTE: ms. marangal

Deacon Blues · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:01 pm

In post 607, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 605, Deacon Blues wrote:
In post 597, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 593, Deacon Blues wrote:Because you're not even trying to read me.
I never know with you though. I read you as town for the most part, but this game you've seemed off.
Every single game I'm a little different. I'm not a robot.

And this hydra is a new collaboration. We get along pretty well, I think, but I can tell that my reads are more generous than bork's are. That's probably a good thing.

I want to learn how to read you on my own. I have not seen you put as much heart and soul into a game since, as you did in Paradox Prime. I misread you in that game, and so did ViTierce. And that combination led to your lynch.

I don't like repeating mistakes like that. So, give me some data that can lead to a better read, and I'll try to do the same.
I so don't remember PxP. It was my first game back and I was a different player then.

But I mean you always seem to talk about how you're different from game to game, but everyone has a basic tone that carries across. Yours here has been different than the one's I've seen you with when you're town.

I burnt my town meta to the ground a few games ago. I mean burnt it to the ground in a game where I was scum.

I think that was a good thing in the overall scheme

I'm rebuilding with the stuff I think is meaningful and useful to me and to town. And I'm not going to restrain my play to an arbitrary set of "this is town ffery" behaviors going forward.

I don't expect this to make a huge, scary difference in my play, because I kinda lack imagination wrt the range of things you can do in mafia. I'm just not going to worry about whether I'm playing inside the known "town-ffery" envelope or not.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:04 pm

Yes being Hypocritical is a partial scum tell. It means you are not being honest....
Once again it goes back to rather you are being honest and truthful... Townie have very little to hide

True but players usually have a scum play-style and a townie style... not always but often. Unless you know my townie style how can you say this is my scum style/

I give you this one though If you are a scum lurker you would more likely not want to replace out...

Ok yes she posted 3 continuous vote and yes that is suspicious. However you seem to jump on that pretty quickly. You dont seem to care if there is a rational reason for action or not. In other words it seems like you were looking for a reason to vote for someone in order to look like you were scum hunting

not sure how you got apologetic from that when it obviously me being nice..but Ok.. I guess I can see how it could be misread

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:06 pm

@ Tammy...
to be honest i am not sure what i was thinking... I tend to have a short memory at times. If I had to guess it was probably to help get a better read on Pitoli

Tammy · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:53 pm

...i want to vote rufflig again

holding the urge...

Ms Marangal · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:44 pm

Ms Marangal · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:46 pm

In post 583, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Could you explain your vote on me and why you have me at the bottom of your scum list. Your vote seem a bit random

that list of reads isn't really put in order (the bolded are reads that are fairly strong)

I don't think my vote is all that random, tbh

Ms Marangal · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:51 pm

and, you're hurting my head more than it should be hurting

I want to get rid of that.

In post 585, MafiaSSK wrote:
NULL
orcinus_theoriginal

TOWN
Ms Marangal
Kazekirimaru

What have I done, up to this point that gave you that town read?

and why is Orci null when another of your town-read (Kaze) is clearing him via role?

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:16 pm

In post 603, Minami no Hana wrote:Apparently when playing with SSK all votes need to be accompanied with giant walls of text.

On other news I have real life issues and haven't been able to attend this game nor will be able to tomorrow (full day work on a Saturday FML), and giffy's sick so prob. wont see anything from us until Sunday.

PEd: Oh and apparently Tammy's worth asking "why" and we arent even worth asking "why" \:D/

Before you take off for the weekend, you guys mind telling me who your scumbuddies are?

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:How about this

Your comment about No Hana being a more active lurker makes no sense since she has posted alot more than you , have tried to scum hunt and tried to make reads. You answer came off as hypocritical and ungenuine. Your vote on me seems to be based on playstyle... which a better player would know not to do. Honestly this seems like an attack on me bc I questioned if you were scum and were possible going to vote for you. As for your excuse for not replacing out I just dont buy it.... Your vote on Hana seems like a bit of a stretch. Sorry but I am reading you as scum

VOTE: MafiaSSK

What a weird post. It's quite obviously bad, but I can't tell if it's scum-motivated badness or a townie genuinely trying to scumhunt.

Someone help me sort this?

In post 611, Tammy wrote:actually

VOTE: ms. marangal

Pourquoi?

In post 616, Ms Marangal wrote:Ha~

You're not at all curious about why Tammy voted you?

---

Every time someone says something related to fferybork's "tone" or "feel" being different this game I cringe a little.

It's a fucking hydra, people. It's not going to feel the same as its individual components.

Ms Marangal · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:18 pm

and, back to fuzzy

In post 608, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:How about this

Your comment about No Hana being a more active lurker makes no sense since she has posted alot more than you , have tried to scum hunt and tried to make reads. You answer came off as hypocritical and ungenuine. Your vote on me seems to be based on playstyle... which a better player would know not to do. Honestly this seems like an attack on me bc I questioned if you were scum and were possible going to vote for you. As for your excuse for not replacing out I just dont buy it.... Your vote on Hana seems like a bit of a stretch. Sorry but I am reading you as scum

VOTE: MafiaSSK

There's stuff like this that's bothering the fuck out of me.

Do you know what active lurking is?

because Minami No Hana active lurking and SSK Lurking make sense, albiet it's a little weird to bring that up at this point in time but I can kinda understand where he is coming from in that regard

and I don't even know why you're apologizing to... someone you think is... scum...

Pedit: Nope, not really. Tammy doesn't bother me she's "easy to manipulate" and I'll be able to do it with time

Tammy · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:21 pm

In post 261, Tammy wrote:If one of you could please change your avatar or at least the color of your avatar that would be awesome!

Ms Marangal · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:22 pm

we made each other's avi's though

they are special

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:23 pm

I just finished both a town and scum game for all you meta-loving masochists out there. ;D

Tammy · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:30 pm

In post 296, The Rufflig wrote:
@Minami no Hana: None of the players I listed had taken any stands on any players. I was quite willing to pressure any of them. (Unless you want to count "Oh and I want to give fuzzy a hug, which means he's town." a stand.)

It's an awesomely beautiful stand do you have something against hugs maybe you should get more joy in your life or something. Also ftr voting me will not make me give stances, that's alignment irrelevant.