Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[Tammy]

VOTE: rufflig

[Tammy]

Don't know, couldn't care less.

Wagon analysis before a flip is stupid. You're literally scumhunting on a wagon, you were on, for no reason, for someone you have no idea what their alignment is, because they joined the wagon for the same reason you did. You're not scumhunting the wagon; you're scattershot voting and making up a reason. The faster you admit that to yourself the better you'll be.

I'm voting for who I think scum is.

So am I making up reasons, or do I have no reasons? Am I scumhunting in your opinion, or aren't I? If I had no idea what your alignment is, why would I make up reasons?

This post is a clusterfuck, miss.

You were on a wagon for no reason. You were then "scumhunting" the wagon you were on and accusing people for being on a wagon for the same "non" reasons you were.

No you were not actually scumhunting.

If the wagon had actually led to a lynch, and Prohawk flipped town, then analyzing his wagon would be a thing. That didn't happen. If you are town, which by your later claim you probably are, then you have no idea what Prohawk's alignment is. Therefore, "scumhunting" his wagon is inane busywork at best.

Pressure voting and reaction testing is a thing, but don't mistake it for what it's not.

[Kazekirimaru]

Livin' in the past, livin' in the past~

[Tammy]

Because if not, you don't know how to read Tammy and I'll probably be too drunk by the time I finish explaining her meta for you to completely understand it.

I'm drunk now and I was looking forward to reading all about me and i haz a disappoint.

[Tammy]

Livin' in the past, livin' in the past~

In my absorption I let a couple things get past me

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Kaze
can you explain why you think my post was bad

[Kazekirimaru]

SSK pretty much summed it up, but what really pinged me was that "Sorry, but I'm reading you as scum" line. Just, no. I almost voted you again right there.

[Tammy]

Oh and Nacho, get over yourself. I have yet to see any game-changing moves from you. You are overrated.

We are early day one, not even at page 20, what "game-changing moves" are you expecting?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

are you saying my reasoning is bad or that I did not explain myself well or both

[Tammy]

How did you interpret my request that (someone) unvote prohawk? Furthermore, what is your current read on him?

You seemed concerned that someone might quick hammer Prohawk and end the day prematurely.

My current thoughts on Prohawk: Unengaged with the game. Does not care if he is lynched or not. Pressure will not work on him. I do not expect any meaningful contributions from him. Null. (Although, if he's town and has no intention of playing, he really should do the honorable thing and replace out).

If pressure will not work on him, why did you join his pressure wagon?

[Tammy]

Oh Okay, wait, my vote might be in the right place. I'm now remembering Mara reading me as town early in Chef Mafia. I think. Check back later.

[Kazekirimaru]

are you saying my reasoning is bad or that I did not explain myself well or both

Probably just the former. And it just sounds bad. If it weren't for the fact that I've already decided to leave you be for now I'd be pouncing on you like a newlywed Catholic.

[Tammy]

Why did you choose Tammy to push on in your opening post?

Because her opening post was boring, seemed overly terse. Thought I was sensing a bit of weakness, couldn't pass up the opportunity to catch Tammy-scum in one post and make up for chosen mafia. I did research into her other opening posts and everything!

You did?

I'd really like to know what recent town games have been wordy? Or what games you're comparing it to for my openings that you are comparing it to.

[Tammy]

Tammy

is

town isn't she?

why does when I make that read on her, matter?

making a read too early is generally not a good sign because scum know alignments already and can guess what will happen with reads on certain players based on those players

!!!

[Tammy]

Can you provide YOUR reads and why you think that way?

Sure.

GiF's town.



No really that was a joke, anyway as for my reads.

Rufflig: Leaning Scum, I didnt like his vote hoping everytime someone did as much as suspect him, and his vote on prohawk seemed opportunistic (bus?)
prohawk: Scum, Don't like his attitude this game, but then again i didnt like him in xenologue either and he was town, so i'm letting Nacho deal with him, besides, GiF wants our vote to be on Rufflig.
Mara: Null, because idk wth is she thinking atm, she's doing nothing for me to work with, just a vote...
You: Leaning Town, tho i'm not sure what you're asking everyone's reads for, unless you're planning on doing that big towntell of yours (or you just remembered why i thought you were scum for in that newbie game and refined your scum game for that?).
Kaze: Null, I think im not able to read Kaze at all
orc: Leaning Town, so far he seems like someone that wants to contribute in general.
Mac: Leaning Town, I like his posts so far, specially his interactions with the other players.

Now you asking reads out of everyone is causing me to be paranoid because on that newbie game where you were scum I had to ask you to do trajectory analisis and that's what in the end made me think you were scum, and idk if you're doing this for the towntell or because of your trajectory from that game.

INVISIBLE!!!

[Tammy]

PROHAWK - If I was a gut scum read on like page 5 or whatever, how come you haven't directed anything to me since then?

[Tammy]

Oh i did miss the role reveal, well guess that takes my worries off Kaze and strengthens my read on orc then, considering it's a confirmable role if lynching orc does do what he said.

You were able to find the role claim and clear in four minutes after deacon pointed out that you hadn't caught it?

[Tammy]

Yes being Hypocritical is a partial scum tell. It means you are not being honest....
Once again it goes back to rather you are being honest and truthful... Townie have very little to hide

True but players usually have a scum play-style and a townie style... not always but often. Unless you know my townie style how can you say this is my scum style/

I give you this one though If you are a scum lurker you would more likely not want to replace out...

Ok yes she posted 3 continuous vote and yes that is suspicious. However you seem to jump on that pretty quickly. You dont seem to care if there is a rational reason for action or not. In other words it seems like you were looking for a reason to vote for someone in order to look like you were scum hunting

not sure how you got apologetic from that when it obviously me being nice..but Ok.. I guess I can see how it could be misread

I have absolutely no idea who you are talking to or about here.

[Tammy]

Pedit: Nope, not really. Tammy doesn't bother me she's "easy to manipulate" and I'll be able to do it with time

That may have been the case one day, but I've learned to harden my heart so you'll have to try harder.

[Tammy]

we made each other's avi's though

they are special

I was talking to giffykuracho whose avatars look too much alike. But yeah you guys could change yours too. That would be swell!

[Tammy]

Lalala...

I finished reading. I'll give thoughts tomorrow. It's late and I'm stupid tired.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Tammy
was talking to Mafia

UNVOTE: mafia

[TheFuzzylogic99]

@ Kaze
You know I am town.....my argument might of been bad but you have a strong town read on me. That is why you left me alone. Plus you know that voting for me bc I said sorry would be a bit weak especially since it is clearly me trying to be nice.

@ Mafia
I still feel your reasoning for considering me scum very weak.....

[orcinus_theoriginal]

VOTE: mara

Friends pls

[Yulia Jue]

My name