A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?


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Post Post #5500 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:06 am

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In post 5497, Benmage wrote:Benmage: Benmage, you're a scary genius.
Benmage: No Benmage, you're a scary genius.
Benmage: Yeah :twisted: that is true.
Benmage: Mmmhmmm.

So time for our crazy firechat session with Benmage!

The topic: HAMMER CHARGERS

So as I previously theorized scum could gain something via hammers. Well what if that *gain* is a NK!
-We all have powers. So scum team is A) Decently sized. B) With power. So to balance... Faraday thought of a creative night kill mechanism????
-No kill N1, why? Cause PnJ hammered.
-Kill N2? YEP... why? Cause SpyreX hammered.
-D3.. Tierce hammer, no charge.
-D4.. Goat on a Raft, no charge.
-D5 Alfred hammer. Incoming charge theory, no kill.
-D6 Alfred (although still a wrong VC with Alfred missing at end)
-N6 Kill.. Yep charge used
-D7 Titus hammer, so town, no charge.. but scum still have a charge.
-N7 You know it. Charge used NK.

And that concludes todays fireside chat with me.
This actually doesn't sound as insane as I expected it to. I don't especially think Alfred is scum though.

I still want a fullclaim. If you are X-shot for instance this all becomes even weirder. And if that's the case it's odd to me that you would save them all so long.
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Post Post #5501 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:08 am

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In post 5492, Shadoweh wrote:I've been trying to encourage Garruk to post song lyrics but so far he's been resistant, either he really thinks somehow he's not dying or he's not scum here. Or maybe he's retaining hope, like Benmage will go 'oh i was kidding, i did not in fact
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Post Post #5502 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:11 am

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I am happy to vote Garruk.

Will not mind being proved right with that read.

Certainly trust sheeping Benmage atm other certain others.

Hi Magau, echo the sentiment for you to reveal your info.
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Post Post #5503 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:12 am

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Dude, I could be a gagillion things and Im not fullclaiming.

I've been pretty upfront with what I am/willing to claim.

I opened with the result. Quickly said I wasn't standard. Dismissed ooba as obviously fake. Haven't wavered in my read. Knew whatever you had was nonsense before you full claimed what you "had" on me. Claimed I've done no other night actions... (obviously scum have powers, So I've used none, and haven't done a NK... strange, no?) Whereas town saving abilities only heightens accuracy. We also go back to it making zero sense to be scum fakeclaiming at this juncture, but I digress.

Again what/if I got left could be a plethora of things,
and it only benefits scum.
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Post Post #5504 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:12 am

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EBWOP: -other +over
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Post Post #5505 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:13 am

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In post 5502, SafetyDance wrote:Hi Magau, echo the sentiment for you to reveal your info.
I liked that Magua posted inthread quickly after replacing. (I'd have read my scumqt)

I don't like that he resisted my request/is now a little mia... the paranoia alarms start going off.
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Post Post #5506 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am

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In post 5492, Shadoweh wrote:I've been trying to encourage Garruk to post song lyrics but so far he's been resistant, either he really thinks somehow he's not dying or he's not scum here. Or maybe he's retaining hope, like Benmage will go 'oh i was kidding, i did not in fact
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Post Post #5507 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am

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Hammer the troll.
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Post Post #5508 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am

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Why is ooba not being considered scum for the fakeclaim?

That's
twice
there's been
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1v1s that have resulted in town flips and there's barely any questions irt these players. Well least not from those alive....
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Post Post #5509 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:18 am

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In post 5505, Benmage wrote:
In post 5502, SafetyDance wrote:Hi Magau, echo the sentiment for you to reveal your info.
I liked that Magua posted inthread quickly after replacing. (I'd have read my scumqt)

I don't like that he resisted my request/is now a little mia... the paranoia alarms start going off.
Presume it's because he's busy isoing her now.

Your command is my wish.

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Post Post #5510 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:19 am

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Hey SD when I flip town, you promise to lynch Benmage, right?
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Post Post #5511 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:21 am

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Day 8, Vc 10

Alfred Borden (1) -
Shadoweh
Garruk Relentless (5) -
Benmage, Titus, Messiah Complex, ooba, SafetyDance
Benmage (2) -
Garruk Relentless, Cephrir
Cephrir (2) -
Tierce, The Alchemist

Not voting (3)
: Alfred Borden, Magua, Nautilius

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch
  • Deadline Date: 16th of December 20:35 EST
  • Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-12-16 20:35:00)
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Post Post #5512 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:21 am

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In post 5509, SafetyDance wrote:Presume it's because he's busy isoing her now.
Thats what concerns me... trying to match up for consistency???.. verse just claiming... Unless he thinks I'm uber-fishing which I'm sure someone else would have gone ZOMG dont listen to benmage... right?
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Post Post #5513 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:22 am

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I'm not actually a watcher/treestump, Benmage.

Also, I'm at work, so whatevs.

Also also also, what ooba safeclaim?

Also also also also also, I don't want this Day to end until I get to talk to Tierce.
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Post Post #5514 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:23 am

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Yes... you've been permanently roleblocking Tierce.
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Post Post #5515 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:24 am

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In post 5510, Garruk Relentless wrote:Hey SD when I flip town, you promise to lynch Benmage, right?
I'd consider him as scum the same as ooba
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Post Post #5516 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:29 am

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I've got to go.

The Hand speaks with the King's voice:

The hammer vote belongs to Magua.


When I return it better be night with the blood of Garruk.
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Post Post #5517 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:36 am

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You're going to have a bad time.

SafetyDance, if ooba is scum, how come you seem so nonchalant about voting along with him?
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Post Post #5518 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:52 am

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Wowwwwwwww FIRESIDE CHAT ftw

Hey Ceph,

Agar didn't claim N5 result D6.. in fact Alfred rushed the day so that he didnt even get to post!!!!!!
-Agar could have blocked the kill that night. Hence Alfreds need to rush the day.
-My townread on Titus could be wrong. But I'd obviously like to test thru Alfreds lynching.

Back to Alfred scum. Hammering before an outted PR reveals result on a night without a kill. Does that sound like town llamarable or Empire? Or (as there was significant pressure his way)... Sound like scum half suiciding for their team. MMMhhmmmm.
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Post Post #5519 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:53 am

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This obviously requires more time, but I don't think I want to lynch Magua anytime soon.
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Post Post #5520 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:54 am

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In post 5518, Benmage wrote:Wowwwwwwww FIRESIDE CHAT ftw

Hey Ceph,

Agar didn't claim N5 result D6.. in fact Alfred rushed the day so that he didnt even get to post!!!!!!
-Agar could have blocked the kill that night. Hence Alfreds need to rush the day.
-My townread on Titus could be wrong. But I'd obviously like to test thru Alfreds lynching.

Back to Alfred scum. Hammering before an outted PR reveals result on a night without a kill. Does that sound like town llamarable or Empire? Or (as there was significant pressure his way)... Sound like scum half suiciding for their team. MMMhhmmmm.
This is definitely a point against them and one I've considered. Probably the biggest reason to suspect them.

But I put a lot of stock in these meta reads, and it's not like he was the only one rushing the day.

I'm not saying he's towntowntown either.
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Post Post #5521 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:54 am

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Uhh?? what? Magua's one of the better town reads I've been espousing.
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Post Post #5522 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:57 am

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Hey Ben, you have any more reports from the Redundant Department of Redundancy?

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Post Post #5523 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:58 am

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In post 5517, Magua wrote:You're going to have a bad time.

SafetyDance, if ooba is scum, how come you seem so nonchalant about voting along with him?
What has ooba got to do with Benmage's track claim?

Why was Elle so solid town, Ben?
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Post Post #5524 (ISO) » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:59 am

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Yeah. Mafia players are like goldfish. They forget important things rather quickly. And with the unfortunate ooba tunnelage/incident on kkb.. I don't want people to forget the pressure Alfred was under, and the peculiarity of their actions.
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