Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Magua]

Vote Count 6.3

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Nero Cain (2): 1baldeagle1, BBmolla
Harakiri (1): ProHawk

Not Voting (9): VoidedMafia, Nero Cain, Lost Butterfly, Garuda, Ghostly Penguin, Harakiri, uʍop ǝpısdn, zMuffinMan, Lord Mhork

Deadline for Day 6 is Sunday, December 22nd, at 5:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-12-22 17:00:00)

Quilford is posting in place of uʍop ǝpısdn until access issues for the hydra get resolved.

[Voidedmafia]

Ok so I'm getting the urge to want to lynch Harakiri and then we make LB shoot Nero. What about that?

Why Harakiri and not, say, Eagle or Garuda or me?

Can we revisit the idea of mass-claim? At least of used abilities, if not things people still have in their arsenals.

I agree.

I'm not sure if I want to lynch Nero or eagle ATM.

Nero is the more surefire bet.

I don't understand this theory; major flaw seems to be that both scumteams locking out one another is not only highly improbable, but almost bordering on impossible.

I think it's very possible, though it does require that at no point during the game either team managed to actually find the other.

It's not as outlandish as you may think, though, since unless those who were in Pere's neighborhood were scum on opposite teams the only way I can think of that they'd know about each other is from the N1 kill, or lack thereof. Unless you know of any other way they could know who's who among the other team.

What have you done this game that has been town? The only thing that you have in your favor is the Nero tunnel, but you weren't exactly the main proponent of that.

And the medium.

I'm also not particularly interested in a massclaim today.
Maybe tomorrow.

Why?

The lock-out theory is complete tinfoil hat, but it would explain why ONE team didn't bid on NK.

How do you know ONE team didn't bid?

i am upset to announce that i think bbmolla is probably town now.

Based on what?

[1baldeagle1]

i am upset to announce that i think bbmolla is probably town now.

You better explain this. Both of you. You guys are both suddenly townreading each other, given the fact you were scumreading each other yesterday.

Nero is still scum, and he's a safer lynch.

[Ghostly Penguin]

I'm not sure if I want to lynch Nero or eagle ATM

who do you want to lynch? and is ghostlin still MIA?

Sorry, reading that back I realize it was unclear. I meant I would be on board lynching either one of them and just didn't know which at the time of the posting. I was originally weighing whether there was any scum motivation to set NC up to be lynched today, except that scum wouldn't have known where the lynch was going to swing after the NC wagon was shut down. Then I wasn't sure what the scum motivation was to keep him alive. Having thought about it, it seems likely that ensuring he lives to the night phase lets him transfer money to a scum buddy.

I think I'm good with a NC lynch today, but I want the mass claim. I don't care if we popcorn or LB makes up an order list or whatever. Just so it happens while town likely still has the numbers to lynch scum without relying on help from an opposing scum team.

And yes, you're still stuck with me; Ghostlin's been MIA for two and a half weeks now. I'd switch to my main account, but I figure it's easier to stick with one if people want to ISO our slot.

--PA

[Magua]

Vote Count 6.4

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Nero Cain (2): 1baldeagle1, BBmolla
Harakiri (1): ProHawk

Not Voting (9): VoidedMafia, Nero Cain, Lost Butterfly, Garuda, Ghostly Penguin, Harakiri, uʍop ǝpısdn, zMuffinMan, Lord Mhork

Deadline for Day 6 is Sunday, December 22nd, at 5:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-12-22 17:00:00)

Deadline for Day 6 is Monday, December 23rd, at 5:00am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-12-23 05:00:00)

Deadline extended for 12 hours because of site downtime.

Prodded ProHawk.

Quilford is posting in place of uʍop ǝpısdn until access issues for the hydra get resolved.

[Lord Mhork]

VOTE: Harakiri

I find the no submit + tiny auctions + trying to incriminate LB more scummy than Nero at this particular moment. This is my theory unless someone can prove LB scum.

[ProHawk]

Prodded ProHawk.

Site was down last night.

[ProHawk]

Going through a re-read...

Don't like LB's pushes. In fact, if you read his ISO, he actually DOESN'T push anyone really. He will call people scummy, and throw down votes, but a majority of them are hedged with a lot of words in between placing the responsibility on the other head. Its a whole-lotta on the fence stuff going around. Hermy vote and lynch was bad. KingdomAces vote was bad. Just look at his votes are all freaking over the place and don't match up at all with his "scum-hunting".

There is a lot of game mechanics theory is strong in this one, but has yielded little to no results. Not to mention trying to find scum based on advertisement claims is inherently flawed.

With regards to what we SHOULD have been doing is getting auction won results from people before they died so we could account for all of the roles, but hindsite is 20/20 and I have been pretty much lost this whole game anyway.

LB, did you ever mention why you Neighborized Harakiri?

[BBmolla]

Fwiw, I totally acknowledge that Nacho could be scum, I can't read him.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ghostly Penguin

[zMuffinMan]

if we are massclaiming, someone should actually start it or it's never going to happen

You better explain this. Both of you. You guys are both suddenly townreading each other, given the fact you were scumreading each other yesterday.

also, this

[Harakiri]

I find the no submit + tiny auctions + trying to incriminate LB more scummy than Nero at this particular moment.

Now that's kind of a fuckin' stretch.

[1baldeagle1]

I'm down for a massclaim. Popcorn style?

Also, Molla, answer my question please. It's very concering that you are suddenly townreading Quil and he is suddenly townreading you. This goes to Quil when he catches up.

[BBmolla]

?

Cause he's showing a clearly town thought process?

[1baldeagle1]

?

Cause he's showing a clearly town thought process?

Explain.

[BBmolla]

Explain how he isn't showing a town thought process

[1baldeagle1]

Explain how he isn't showing a town thought process

Since you are the one townreading him, you can do it. Don't try to push the work over to me.

[Quilford]

If I was scum then at least I could make up reads.

Why wouldn't I just make up reads by now as scum

Bullshit isn't hard to make up dude. I could have reads on everyone as scum. I'm town, and because of that, I don't have shit.

i was pretty sure that this was just bbmolla making up shit. i didn't really realise that he was actually referring to his meta as in: he does actually put a lot of effort into making up reads as scum

then lb quoted him saying the exact thing before as scum in an offsite game

Here I am, spewing BULLSHIT, and everyone is calling me town for it. Because I have reads. Do they make sense? Fuck no. But because they don't know it's me, they think "oh this adorable players has silly reads, how cute, he's town."

which is pretty incontrovertible

so i'm pretty sure that bbmolla would be faking it right now were he scum. but he's not. i think he's town for that.

[Quilford]

You guys are both suddenly townreading each other, given the fact you were scumreading each other yesterday.

and the significance of this is

[Nero Cain]

Are you an idiot?

I said exactly how it was. But I said I wasn't sure if you were townreading me at all because I wanted Voided dead like you did.

I AM A HUGE IDIOT!!!!! I mean, you come in the thread and are all "NERO 180'D ON ME!!!!" and I show proof that I always had a lingering doubt about your slot...and some how I'm the idiot.

Why don't you explain why you refuse to answer my question about Mhork.

Muffin, your read on Eagle?

why are you asking me specifically?

Well earlier you were huffing and puffing about how I was being so dishonest so I just wanted to see what you thought of his dishonesty.

then i read things like 4471 and think it looks genuinely town.

Can you explain how his looks "genuinely town" but when I said practically the same thing before him its different?

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

magua the hydras back up

[BBmolla]

Explain how he isn't showing a town thought process

Since you are the one townreading him, you can do it. Don't try to push the work over to me.

Pass

[uʍop ǝpısdn]

I'm back, everybody! What an adventure this has been!

VOTE: Nero Cain

[Lord Mhork]

Yo. Upside. You should vote Harakiri

[1baldeagle1]

Molla gets rope after Nero.