Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

mykonian · Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:27 pm

I'd love to hear that, nacho.

pitoli · Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:30 pm

In post 973, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Also if the cop wants to investigate me I am fine with that. I welcome it.

pitoli, what do you think?[/quote]
Why ask me specifically?

During one my recent town games I said the same thing as a joke, people took it as a "godfather tell" and it went very badly.

I know I keep waffling back and forth on Fuzzy but for now I don't want to vote him.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:31 pm

I agree that I gave him too much credit for his early posting, which is something I discovered last night while looking for alternatives. I don't like that Sakura sheeped me after voting me; it felt like if she was concerned about Nachoscum, then she probably wouldn't have been so immediately reassured by me. She is not the type of player who dances with me or challenges me to dance with her, she usually just follows along with my initial pushes. If she's paranoid of me, she's usually clearly and obviously paranoid of me, not this strange middle ground where she's kind of paranoid of me but not really. So I feel like she's sorting me out because she thinks that's the type of thing I would townread from her, but not showing actual signs of sorting me out because she's not actually town.

pitoli · Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:34 pm

In post 988, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 897, pitoli wrote:Oh good, my townreads blocing without me ):

My vote on Nacho was basically to try to force some interaction with him, since what he was doing didn't look like town and I wanted to get more out of him. Omgus is one of those things that people rarely ignore and I wanted to see what peoples' reactions would be.

The way Nacho is flipping about makes me think he could be scum pretending he has reads to sort out. The momentum comment derided me out.
You haven't seen me flip out, have you?

Not flipping out, flipping votes.

mykonian · Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:39 pm

In post 1001, pitoli wrote:
In post 973, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Also if the cop wants to investigate me I am fine with that. I welcome it.
pitoli, what do you think?

Why ask me specifically?

During one my recent town games I said the same thing as a joke, people took it as a "godfather tell" and it went very badly.

I know I keep waffling back and forth on Fuzzy but for now I don't want to vote him.[/quote]

Yeah, I kinda was the person pushing you very hard there. Won't play on that account anymore as I started playing like myself in parts, and then the point of an alt is a bit gone. So I might as well talk about it in games.

But I do believe in that tell. I'm not a cop here in a game where I expect a godfather as I was there, but still, it's a tell I've seen work. Fuzzy didn't read that game, maybe it works here?

mykonian · Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:40 pm

I guess I could have fixed that quote.

pitoli · Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:41 pm

Lol. You suck, you really suck

mykonian · Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:43 pm

I know

I said I was sorry and I meant that. But I was so convinced you had to be scum, couldn't see it in another way...

pitoli · Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:49 pm

Is that pretty much the cherry on top for your Fuzzy case then?

pitoli · Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:51 pm

In post 995, Nachomamma8 wrote:Pitoli town based on interactions and a level of ballsiness required to be coming from pitoli scum that I don't think she possesses.
Marangal meltdown makes myko town, don't really give a shit what he posts although moving away from the norm in a significant way is something that comes from myko town more often than myko scum.
Tammy deacon town.
MafiaSSK gets two points based on what I assume scumbuddies would have filled him in on. If scumteam is prohawk/gif though, maybe not. Otherwise would prefer not to kill him based on townreads elsewhere (head can be cut off today).
Ruffling trust of me is weird and I am suspicious as all hell, but not sure he is best flip for today. Look into again later.
Prohawk still scummy. Conviction in response to me was good, follow up responses were not. Current line on ruffling is concerning if ruffling town.
Mac town.
Fuzzy most likely town, although I have paranoid flashes now and then.
Kaze also most likely town although I have similar paranoid flashes on him.
Minami good bet for scum.

Does scum-Nacho typically provide so many town reads?

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:54 pm

@ Nacho

You seem kinda certain that Myko is likely town. You appear to have more game with him so I am trusting your read

UNVOTE: Myko

for now.... Cause I would really hate to lynch a townie and I am not sure about you anymore

@Myko

I did look at the game where you were a cop. I did not consider it in my meta dig since players often act differently as cops than as VT. Your basis for voting for me is bad. I am not sure why you are reading some of the things I do as scum but you are wrong. Please rethink your rationale. Also why did you ask Pit about my cop comment..a little weird

@ Deacon
I am not weird just awkward, at least that how I see it

mykonian · Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:56 pm

In post 1008, pitoli wrote:Is that pretty much the cherry on top for your Fuzzy case then?

the slip was already. I'm building cherries on cherries!

idk though. I get what you people mean. Too good to be true, etc.

In post 1010, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I did look at the game where you were a cop. I did not consider it in my meta dig since players often act differently as cops than as VT. Your basis for voting for me is bad. I am not sure why you are reading some of the things I do as scum but you are wrong. Please rethink your rationale. Also why did you ask Pit about my cop comment..a little weird

it was on a recent game, I was on an alt.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:01 pm

@Myko
I swore that you were a cop in an older game as well.....I could be wrong. Point being that I did not consider it. Please explain how it was a scum slip bc I am very very confused.

mykonian · Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:02 pm

also, you obviously don't come from EM. aaaaaah

there's only one role in the whole game that simultaniously cares/thinks about investigations and wants to be investigated. It's scum.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:09 pm

Really...... bc unless I am a Godfather there is no reason I would want to be investigated. I am doubting there is a Godfather role in a mini game.Plus this is nonsense bc I have seen plenty of time where townies ask to be investigated. I would be surprised if you have not seen that also. I am really confused by your logic.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:11 pm

I should say want to be investigated if I was scum!

pitoli · Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:14 pm

You basically answered your own question Fuzzy

mykonian · Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:17 pm

In post 1014, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Really...... bc unless I am a Godfather there is no reason I would want to be investigated. I am doubting there is a Godfather role in a mini game.Plus this is nonsense bc I have seen plenty of time where townies ask to be investigated. I would be surprised if you have not seen that also. I am really confused by your logic.

I've seen it a couple of times. Last time was pitoli. And I've seen it work a couple of times. I think it works more often then the average amount of scum in a game.

in pitoli's case she responded to a joke, and I failed to understand that properly, it didnt make sense to me at that moment. Your mention of it is completely out of the blue. Pitoli had 2 reasons to be town and think about cops (one person was joking about it towards her, and she was a cop variant herself). I don't see that counting for you here.

And you aren't confused.

Minami no Hana · Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:28 pm

In post 1002, Nachomamma8 wrote:I agree that I gave him too much credit for his early posting, which is something I discovered last night while looking for alternatives. I don't like that Sakura sheeped me after voting me; it felt like if she was concerned about Nachoscum, then she probably wouldn't have been so immediately reassured by me. She is not the type of player who dances with me or challenges me to dance with her, she usually just follows along with my initial pushes. If she's paranoid of me, she's usually clearly and obviously paranoid of me, not this strange middle ground where she's kind of paranoid of me but not really. So I feel like she's sorting me out because she thinks that's the type of thing I would townread from her, but not showing actual signs of sorting me out because she's not actually town.

Except when I voted you, you hadn't even posted, when I checked the thread again you had already gone through Tammy and went on to prohawk, I felt your interaction was townish and decided to sheep you.
wrt GiF he's been V/LA for a while because first he was sick, and now... well he didnt tell me the reason for his V/LA i only know it's until Thursday (which is today).

At least you're not attributing my innactivity to your scumread on us, but I guess you could explain to ffery how active I am when im in hydra if she didnt notice from her games with me when I was in hydra with you, mostly because im lazy to switch accounts (hence why i play solo so often).

Now can we go on with lynching scum Rufflig and be done with it?

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:29 pm

No, since there is good possibilities that I am a townie. To act like townie don't ask to be investigated is to bend reality to fit your perception.

@ Myko
You want to make me hit my head against a brick wall . Please explain why a scum would want to be investigated? This would increase the chance they would be caught. Plus to garner such attention would be a dangerous gambit. To believe what you are saying means that there are alot of GF roles or that the scum are dumb and want to take a risky gambit for no reason. I guess it possible it happening every now and than but I do not see it happening enough for it to be a smart gambit
And yes it was out of the blue bc I wanted to convince you i was town . I dont know why bc if I said the sky was blue you would claim it was a scummy remark.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:31 pm

@No Hana
Can you state your case for Ruffling being scum..thank you

Minami no Hana · Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:33 pm

Gut actually.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:34 pm

@ Myko...
never mind bc I am done arguing with you over moot points. I rather focus on lynching scum than to argue with you

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:35 pm

@ No hana
I need a little more than that for me to get on a Ruffling wagon

mykonian · Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:42 pm

In post 1019, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:No, since there is good possibilities that I am a townie. To act like townie don't ask to be investigated is to bend reality to fit your perception.

@ Myko
You want to make me hit my head against a brick wall . Please explain why a scum would want to be investigated? This would increase the chance they would be caught. Plus to garner such attention would be a dangerous gambit. To believe what you are saying means that there are alot of GF roles or that the scum are dumb and want to take a risky gambit for no reason. I guess it possible it happening every now and than but I do not see it happening enough for it to be a smart gambit
And yes it was out of the blue bc I wanted to convince you i was town . I dont know why bc if I said the sky was blue you would claim it was a scummy remark.

yes, because godfathers exist. I don't understand how that is particulary hard to get.