Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[Kazekirimaru]

That nacho suggestion looked like it implied the knowledge of a scum encryptor

I don't think that's Normal.

[Kazekirimaru]

That nacho suggestion looked like it implied the knowledge of a scum encryptor

I don't think that's Normal.

Never mind. It is.

[Minami no Hana]

GiF just informed me that

he's extending his V/LA until sunday

so the hydra's V/LA until sunday atm.

[Nachomamma8]

Oh good, my townreads blocing without me ):

My vote on Nacho was basically to try to force some interaction with him, since what he was doing didn't look like town and I wanted to get more out of him. Omgus is one of those things that people rarely ignore and I wanted to see what peoples' reactions would be.

The way Nacho is flipping about makes me think he could be scum pretending he has reads to sort out. The momentum comment derided me out.

You haven't seen me flip out, have you?

Not flipping out, flipping votes.

So I could be scum pretending to have reads to sort out, or... I could have reads to sort out.

[Nachomamma8]

I agree that I gave him too much credit for his early posting, which is something I discovered last night while looking for alternatives. I don't like that Sakura sheeped me after voting me; it felt like if she was concerned about Nachoscum, then she probably wouldn't have been so immediately reassured by me. She is not the type of player who dances with me or challenges me to dance with her, she usually just follows along with my initial pushes. If she's paranoid of me, she's usually clearly and obviously paranoid of me, not this strange middle ground where she's kind of paranoid of me but not really. So I feel like she's sorting me out because she thinks that's the type of thing I would townread from her, but not showing actual signs of sorting me out because she's not actually town.

Except when I voted you, you hadn't even posted, when I checked the thread again you had already gone through Tammy and went on to prohawk, I felt your interaction was townish and decided to sheep you.
wrt GiF he's been V/LA for a while because first he was sick, and now... well he didnt tell me the reason for his V/LA i only know it's until Thursday (which is today).

At least you're not attributing my innactivity to your scumread on us, but I guess you could explain to ffery how active I am when im in hydra if she didnt notice from her games with me when I was in hydra with you, mostly because im lazy to switch accounts (hence why i play solo so often).

Now can we go on with lynching scum Rufflig and be done with it?

Why are you so confident in ruffling when all you have is gut? What does GiF think about the push?

[Nachomamma8]

I forgot that I didn't post by then, but there's still a bit of a disconnect between dancing with me to immediately sheeping me. If you wanted to dance, why not dance?

[Nachomamma8]

Seriously, guys. Mara's play was scummy and Myko's certainly didn't do the slot much better. I put down a metacase and Myko shrugs it off with the most uninspired "ehh, I just play how I feel. That means nothing" defense I've ever seen. Have you ever seen a townie that cavalier about being accused? Not an ounce of indignation? He's not even trying! Practically laughing me off.

What do I have to do to get you guys to see where I'm coming from?

Yes

[Nachomamma8]

but I think scum partners would probably fill him in on Orc claim.

How exactly would this occur Nacho?

One scum says "hi Orc is confirmed town" after Kaze claims.

[Nachomamma8]

Those necessarily wouldn't be his (or her) words, but they would be close.

[Minami no Hana]

I took your not wanting to engage with me and proceeding to dance with other people as not wanting to dance with me, but since you're here we might as well dance now.

Also I haven't heard from GiF for a while, last 2 things i hard was a V/LA until thursday that he mentioned 3 days ago, and now a V/LA extension until sunday.

It may be gut, or there may be more to it, but considering how so far my gut reads are usually right, i'm pretty confident.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho, since you obviously feel like my case on Rufflig is bad, how about you explain my "line" without looking back at my ISO. What in the world makes you say Rufflig is/was an easy lynch at the time I voted him? Because Tammy was yelling he was scum?

I don't think your case on Rufflig is bad.
If I close my eyes and remember your posts, your line is push Rufflig and spew conviction and anger whenever I renew my push on you and then stay under the radar otherwise.
Rufflig was an easy lynch because he's an easier lynch than players with meta experience with each other. He's a bit outside of the clique.

[Nachomamma8]

I took your not wanting to engage with me and proceeding to dance with other people as not wanting to dance with me, but since you're here we might as well dance now.

Also I haven't heard from GiF for a while, last 2 things i hard was a V/LA until thursday that he mentioned 3 days ago, and now a V/LA extension until sunday.

It may be gut, or there may be more to it, but considering how so far my gut reads are usually right, i'm pretty confident.

He was there when he put down the vote on Rufflig. What did he say about it?

[Nachomamma8]

That nacho suggestion looked like it implied the knowledge of a scum encryptor

It did!

[Nachomamma8]

Seriously, guys. Mara's play was scummy and Myko's certainly didn't do the slot much better. I put down a metacase and Myko shrugs it off with the most uninspired "ehh, I just play how I feel. That means nothing" defense I've ever seen. Have you ever seen a townie that cavalier about being accused? Not an ounce of indignation? He's not even trying! Practically laughing me off.

What do I have to do to get you guys to see where I'm coming from?

I wasn't a fan of Mara, but I rather like Myko. What I like most about him is that he isn't going with the flow. He has put in his own ideas for everyone to consider and mull over instead of retreading the same old ground.

VOTE: Minami

What a jump. Mind explaining?

SSK, what are your thoughts? I don't think you gave an updated reads list yet.

[Minami no Hana]

I took your not wanting to engage with me and proceeding to dance with other people as not wanting to dance with me, but since you're here we might as well dance now.

Also I haven't heard from GiF for a while, last 2 things i hard was a V/LA until thursday that he mentioned 3 days ago, and now a V/LA extension until sunday.

It may be gut, or there may be more to it, but considering how so far my gut reads are usually right, i'm pretty confident.

He was there when he put down the vote on Rufflig. What did he say about it?

He didnt say anything about it to me, i just noticed he quoted that post and voted him, I didnt ask further because I figured he had his reasons on said quote, which is also what gave me the gut scumread initially.

All I remember is that he asked me why were we voting prohawk and i said that it was because i was sheeping you like usual.

[Nachomamma8]

What have you talked about game wise?

[Nachomamma8]

Has he commented on his ffery read at all?

[Nachomamma8]

What are your nonRufflig thoughts?

[Nachomamma8]

Sakuraaaaaa

[Nachomamma8]

Come dance with meeeee

[Minami no Hana]

Thinking about it he hasn't talked with me about anything game related, hasn't let me in on any reads or anything and now i'm here while he's on V/LA (and im supposed to be V/LA too but taking the chance that my boss is around).

Non rufflig thoughts:
orc/kaze are town because i doubt scum would've made a confirmable fakeclaim like that, specially the "mod confirming kaze as town if orc is lynched"
Mara's AtE looked town, so im not buying Kaze's meta case on myko
Mac gut town
fuzzylogic is in the "dunno" realm, my read on him has been jumping up and down all day, the scum slips thingy seems decent but i trust my gut read on Rufflig more in this case.
You were town, but i dont like your reasoning on your push on me when you have knowledge of how i act in hydra (which is usually rely a lot on my other head and bounce reads off them, the issue here is that GiF doesnt talk at all so I have to guess :<)
SSK is... idk how to read him at all.
ffery/bork seem way to aggresive for what I remember of ffery or bork (tho the one game i played with bork was a long time ago)
prohawk is another gut scum read.

PEd: JEEZ IM TYPING

[Minami no Hana]

And here i thought you wanted to dance with me

[Kazekirimaru]

where do we want my vote today

[mykonian]

a selfvote would be cool

[Kazekirimaru]

I don't think I'll do that.

Playing against my win condition and all that jazz.

Do you think I'm scum, Myko?