Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Harakiri]

I don't like how Mhork latched onto some pretty flimsy reasoning for my lynch, either.

[Lord Mhork]

Look I know there's a slight chance that maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe scum flew the giant red flag governing their own.

HOWEVER

There are huge odds that this is a LyLo gambit. One that will lose us the game. So if we could look for one of the 4 or 5 other possible scum, would that be so difficult to do?

PEDIT:
Oh my fucking god guys. I'm not saying he's confirmed town. I'm saying odds are not in the town's favor at all.

[Lost Butterfly]

Hey, Garuda, how are you feeling about Nero/eagle/Mhork right about

now

?

[Lord Mhork]

You're joking.

Fuck it. I'm done with this game.

VOTE: Nero

Enjoy it.

[Lost Butterfly]

Shush, Mhork. I was asking

Garuda

, not you. No need to have an implosion just yet.

[Lost Butterfly]

(I mean, those italics were there for a reason.)

Also, Voided, I hate just about everything in your 4613. How does that make you feel? And we want actual bids, not just what roles you have.

[Magua]

Vote Count 6.8

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Nero Cain (5): 1baldeagle1, uʍop ǝpısdn, Garuda, VoidedMafia, Lord Mhork
Harakiri (1): ProHawk
Ghostly Penguin (1): BBmolla

Not Voting (5): Nero Cain, Lost Butterfly, Ghostly Penguin, Harakiri, zMuffinMan

Deadline for Day 6 is Monday, December 23rd, at 5:00am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-12-23 05:00:00)

[zMuffinMan]

mhork, if you're really worried about today being potential mylo, what about this as an idea: no lynch today, LB shoots nero tonight?

[Lord Mhork]

No that's silly. Plus wouldn't today be LyLo?

[zMuffinMan]

actually nm that. i forgot scum could have an extra kill right now which potentially makes that a really dumb idea if LB is scum

hey nati,

talk to me about your current reads
especially the LB one

No that's silly. Plus wouldn't today be LyLo?

12 alive, it's not lylo, it's potential mylo, assuming no blocking of kills

[Lord Mhork]

I don't even know anymore. I'm gonna take a break from this game.

[Harakiri]

LB is town to the Nth and if she's scum, well, I'm glad to lose to her. The whole deal with correcting the mod and checking my math seems to be the last straw, really. I don't see how scum check with the mod and everything there instead of bringing it to the thread and throwing fire and brimstone.

I'm avoiding the mhork/eagle stuff til Nacho responds--Mina knows where I stand.

Actually, let's just say I'm avoiding the rest of this conversation til Nacho responds unless you have a specific direction in mind here, muffin.

[Harakiri]

It still leaves us with the question of the night kill, but what. Fucking. Ever.

[Lost Butterfly]

Hey, Nacho, are you still online?

For the record, I think Mhork's logic for Nero town is silly and too paranoid--yes, he has a point that it's POSSIBLE scum in a fantastic position might govern town just so LYLO is straightforward, but there are much stronger reasons for scum to keep it in reserve for the last day or to govern a teammate (no matter how useless a teammate) rather than risk losing a teammate to a perfectly good mislynch. Even if Nero isn't confirmed scum right now (only like 2x more likely to be scum or something), there's a reason Nero got run up

before

the govern--because he's both one of the scummiest AND least "town"-looking people in the game.

That said, I REALLY don't like how people started piling up on Nero just as Muffin said, "Okay, let's start our massclaim now or never." At least Garuda is consistent in not caring much about one, but Voided's impatience (combined with hedging his bets a lot today) bugs me.

Voided, what's your read on ProHawk? Or are you just helpfully telling him how town Harakiri and I are despite the fact that you've also been sort of looking at us sideways now and then in your posts? And the person I'd thought was confirmed town earlier was Klick/Espeonage.

eagle, why is your sudden shift on Voided (or on me earlier) less suspicious than BBmolla's and Quilford's on each other?

[zMuffinMan]

@nati,

nah, no specific direction. i'm just kinda up and down on my LB read right now and wanted to know where you stand. plus it feels like you've been out of the game for most of this day phase, or at least i don't remember much from you

[Harakiri]

I have, its true. We had a big snowstorm last weekend and I've been out of it. Then I got my Hearthstone beta key two days ago, so my mafia motivation has been pretty low, especially when the game involves me logging into another account. I'm feeling a bit more motivated tonight though so yeah.

[Lost Butterfly]

Can you elaborate on why you've been up and down on me, Muffin? I'm not sure I've followed your trajectory on my slot this game, since you've gone from being leery of me to having me as a weak townread to not wanting to go anywhere near lynching me to now apparently being unsure of me again. Also, shouldn't I be the one you're questioning, rather than asking other people about their reads on me (I mean, was ProHawk really going to change your mind)? Considering you're apparently unsure of me, I don't like how you haven't even mentioned the NK thing or any of my arguments with Harakiri, or that I have an innocent on you.

I mean, I'm reasonably confident in your alignment at this point, but I'm not quite "bet the game on it" sure, yet.

Also, the no-lynch plan is terrible and has no upside. If there isn't a kill in reserve, then we just lost the advantage I won by stealing the NK from scum and are throwing away a mislynch. If there IS a kill in reserve, then we're in exactly the same position as we'd be by lynching, except with a dead Mina--and that's if my kill even goes through.

[zMuffinMan]

a lot of my scum reads started flipping town, so now i'm going back and looking at stuff again and i realised that a lot of what you've talked about this game has been iioa and while i see some things in your ISO that look townish (mostly the arguments you got into on D1), i have this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that it could have been faked.

i asked nati about you because i feel pretty good about nati being town and i wanted to know what his read on you based on neighbourhood stuff is

i don't really care that you claimed an inno on me (why should i?) and i didn't mention your arguments with harakiri because i was kind of waiting for nati to say something about it; he didn't, so i asked.

[Harakiri]

For the record, Mina did play hard to the script I expected given my reactions in the QT(that is a good thing).

[Harakiri]

And please never utter the words iioa ever again, muffin.

[zMuffinMan]

what's wrong with "ever"?

[geists]

Its an awfully long period of time.

[Voidedmafia]

No. No he hasn't. It's just been me saying that he's scum and everyone ignoring. Probably because scum was setting up an endgame. Prolly because scum saw more viable mislynches and this town really isn't doing much.

So yeah. There are better targets. We're not losing because of this play.

N3? Yesterday?

And you're self-centered enough to ignore how Muffin and I've been calling him scum since Day 2?

[Lord Mhork]

Calling him scum is different than trying to push him though >.>

[Voidedmafia]

Voided: why shouldn't it be eagles work?

Because the whole debacle began with Eagle demanding BB show why he suddenly townread UD and vice versa?

Also, Voided, I hate just about everything in your 4613. How does that make you feel? And we want actual bids, not just what roles you have.

Meh. The sheer amount of...non-usage, for lack of a better way to put it, has really dragged on my ability to care about what you think of my posts.

And I followed my part the plan to the letter.

That said, I REALLY don't like how people started piling up on Nero just as Muffin said, "Okay, let's start our massclaim now or never." At least Garuda is consistent in not caring much about one, but Voided's impatience (combined with hedging his bets a lot today) bugs me.

For the record, I've been advocating that Nero dies even after his governing. I'm just in the camp that says we massclaim BEFORE he dies, not after he dies. And I will unvote to that end, if necessary.

Voided, what's your read on ProHawk?

Null-scum.

Or are you just helpfully telling him how town Harakiri and I are despite the fact that you've also been sort of looking at us sideways now and then in your posts?

That sounds dumb.

And the person I'd thought was confirmed town earlier was Klick/Espeonage.

...Why was Esp conftown again?

Calling him scum is different than trying to push him though >.>

Muffin WAS pushing him all that time! So was I!

You just kinda petulantly whined about how Nero wasn't dead yet. That's

technically

pushing, but.