Open 538: Diffusion of Power (Game Over)

[Lucky2u]

#98 is so bad Lucky . There is enough content for you to comment on . Instead you go and do a random vote .

Your taking that wholly out of context and THAT is bad. Are you just trying to misrep me or did you skim the interaction between me and ETL instead of reading it?

[Lucky2u]

Give him time.

Lucky, I'm assuming you do plan to get into this game.

Your defending me an awful lot wake, like more than seems warranted. I don't quite get the motivation. Are you the secret Night 0 cop?

[Lucky2u]

VOTE: Aptil

Because the dice said so.

There, am I doing it right?

You're doing it even more wrong.

All the posts I made and you chose to snipe at the heavily sarcastic vote? Find something else in the twenty posts between yours and that quote to comment on that has substance please.

[Lucky2u]

Wow, lots of posts since I checked last time!

Yeah, I don't like this from you two. His first post wasn't serious, and was a playful poke at MS for its problems. I'd do the same. Your reason for voting him is nonexistent.having an unserious post isn't Scummy, and you know that, so what are you doing?

I agree with this, I assumed lucky's vote was just a joke and he'd eventually get around to something. However, lucky's next post completely disregards the whole BB gambiting Wake thing, and doesn't haven't any feelings about whether or not about if it's scummy or not. Lucky, do you have anything else to say about what happened then?

Ignoring your terrible vote in the post following this one and responding to your question. I take gambits like that with a grain of salt. The rules don't leave much to the imagination so a night 0 cop is a bit ridiculous. He could have done it in an attempt to seem town because there is a stereotype that only town players make reaction test gambits. It doesn't sway my opinion of either player since wake didn't give anything away during the gambit. The only knowledge I really gleemed from it is that if BB is scum, wake probably isn't on his team. I don't think BB would have targeted a scum mate for that gambit if it was a fake.

[Wake1]

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[Does Bo Know]

Wow, lots of posts since I checked last time!

Yeah, I don't like this from you two. His first post wasn't serious, and was a playful poke at MS for its problems. I'd do the same. Your reason for voting him is nonexistent.having an unserious post isn't Scummy, and you know that, so what are you doing?

I agree with this, I assumed lucky's vote was just a joke and he'd eventually get around to something. However, lucky's next post completely disregards the whole BB gambiting Wake thing, and doesn't haven't any feelings about whether or not about if it's scummy or not. Lucky, do you have anything else to say about what happened then?

@Bo: something about this post really pings me. The waffly nature he took by agreeing with wake about me, asking lucky for input, but then voting him anyway is weird.

VOTE: gam

Ehhhhhhhh

I don't agree. People vote other people to pressure while questioning. I actually find his post pretty townie.

[Does Bo Know]

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The fuck is this?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Ehhhhhhhh

I don't agree. People vote other people to pressure while questioning. I actually find his post pretty townie.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the motivation behind his comments. He agrees with Wake who has been clearly argumentative, in an attempt to appease him, and cast doubt on me and my reads. He asks Lucky for comments on BB's claim and results thereof, with the intention of seeming productive townie, and despite agreeing with Wake about Lucky, he puts him at L2.

It's one thing to apply pressure, but to do so after the fact is just bad scum trying to blend in.

Also the "wow lots of posts" comment is just unnecessary and fishy, like he's trying to give the impression he hasn't been active lurking.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

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The fuck is this?

[Does Bo Know]

Okay thanks ETL, I get what you're saying now.

I'm not done with this wagon yet though.

[Wake1]

DBK/ETL, it's not trolling. In five games right now. Working on this one at the moment. Whatever you think it is, it's not trolling. You can trust me on that.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I'm just making jokes, Wake.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

By the way, Lucky's posts 126 and 127 make me feel better about him.

[Does Bo Know]

DBK/ETL, it's not trolling. In five games right now. Working on this one at the moment. Whatever you think it is, it's not trolling. You can trust me on that.

Are you going to reveal this:
- At the end of this game?
- Ever?

[Wake1]

EspeciallyTheLies

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Who's your top Town and Scum reads?

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Say your gut is strongly telling you someone is Scum, but there was no logic or evidence behind it. Is anyone here that person so far?

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What's your read on DBK, Lucky, and Aptil?

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I just don't see the case on Lucky, and I'm not buddying him, either. You're basically voting for him because he made some fluffy posts instead of getting serious all up in this bitch. I usually make at least one unserious post within the first few pages, just for fun and, well, sometimes I have fun mid and late game, too.

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Garmr, if memory serves, has at least one Scum game and a few Town games. However, I may be wrong.

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I sorta kinda see your point in #124, but I'm not sold on it yet. Anything else that makes you suspect them?

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What are all the points you have against Lucky and Garmantz for reference' sake, please.

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This is my signature. My method of Scumhunting. I'm better able to play using this technique. Suffering from ADD, I can better gather my thoughts this way. You can check Mini 1516: Mafia in Space to see the inception and progression of my gameplay.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Whoa I get a special post.

EspeciallyTheLies

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Who's your top Town and Scum reads?

BB as town. Gam as scum.

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Say your gut is strongly telling you someone is Scum, but there was no logic or evidence behind it. Is anyone here that person so far?

Gut scum read with no evidence or logic... um... I haven't had one of those yet. I need a bit more from everyone.

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What's your read on DBK, Lucky, and Aptil?

I like DBK so far. I feel he's going to be a bit more difficult for me to read, the same way ffery is hard to ready, because they are both such calm posters it's hard not to equate it with towniness on a gut level.

Lucky is leaning more town. I am waiting to see his reactions to other wagons besides his own. So far I like what he's done since getting the sillies out of his system.

Aptil, I don't know. I don't like her posts yet, but I've seen her style in other games. She tends to be lynch bait.

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I just don't see the case on Lucky, and I'm not buddying him, either. You're basically voting for him because he made some fluffy posts instead of getting serious all up in this bitch. I usually make at least one unserious post within the first few pages, just for fun and, well, sometimes I have fun mid and late game, too.

I did it to sort him, and now he's mostly sorted for me. But I'm also no longer voting him (I'm voting gam).

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Garmr, if memory serves, has at least one Scum game and a few Town games. However, I may be wrong.

Ok?

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I sorta kinda see your point in #124, but I'm not sold on it yet. Anything else that makes you suspect them?

Nope. I explained it a bit further a couple posts ago, you may have missed.

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What are all the points you have against Lucky and Garmantz for reference' sake, please.

I am not suspecting Lucky at this time. See my post 132 for the answer to this question.

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This is my signature. My method of Scumhunting. I'm better able to play using this technique. Suffering from ADD, I can better gather my thoughts this way. You can check Mini 1516: Mafia in Space to see the inception and progression of my gameplay.

Ok.

[Wake1]

Whoa I get a special post.

I have a special place in my heart for intelligent females.

EspeciallyTheLies

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Who's your top Town and Scum reads?

BB as town. Gam as scum.

OK. Why?

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Say your gut is strongly telling you someone is Scum, but there was no logic or evidence behind it. Is anyone here that person so far?

Gut scum read with no evidence or logic... um... I haven't had one of those yet. I need a bit more from everyone.

Fair enough. With time I will ask you this again.

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What's your read on DBK, Lucky, and Aptil?

I like DBK so far. I feel he's going to be a bit more difficult for me to read, the same way ffery is hard to ready, because they are both such calm posters it's hard not to equate it with towniness on a gut level.

Lucky is leaning more town. I am waiting to see his reactions to other wagons besides his own. So far I like what he's done since getting the sillies out of his system.

Aptil, I don't know. I don't like her posts yet, but I've seen her style in other games. She tends to be lynch bait.

Aptil's a he, and he regrets sounding like April.

Interesting on DBK. Do you consider me calm as well? Just curious. Does your gut say he's leaning a little Town or Scum?

What if people thought you and Lucky were Scumbuddies, and you two just did a distancing act? Crazy, right?

Aptil's lynchbait because he's not very intimidating. "Oh my God, it's Aptil." "Oh my God, it's Bob." "Eddie." 'April." Whenever I read his name I think spring, flowers, and chocolate eggs. Aptil, put a zombie dragon in your avatar immediately.

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I just don't see the case on Lucky, and I'm not buddying him, either. You're basically voting for him because he made some fluffy posts instead of getting serious all up in this bitch. I usually make at least one unserious post within the first few pages, just for fun and, well, sometimes I have fun mid and late game, too.

I did it to sort him, and now he's mostly sorted for me. But I'm also no longer voting him (I'm voting gam).

Uh huh. And what did you learn? Maybe you shifted towards Gam too quickly, considering your earlier show of tenacity? (PSST~It means I suspect you a little. Don't worry.)

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Garmr, if memory serves, has at least one Scum game and a few Town games. However, I may be wrong.

Ok?

You gave me a bland muffin when I wanted a delicious cupcake. Don't do this. Ever. Clearly this segment pertained to your mention of Gam possible being Newb Scum.

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I sorta kinda see your point in #124, but I'm not sold on it yet. Anything else that makes you suspect them?

Nope. I explained it a bit further a couple posts ago, you may have missed.

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Hm...

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What are all the points you have against Lucky and Garmantz for reference' sake, please.

I am not suspecting Lucky at this time. See my post 132 for the answer to this question.

Out of curiosity, should your newfound target flip Town, how would you like your neck broken? Lengthwise or crosswise?

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This is my signature. My method of Scumhunting. I'm better able to play using this technique. Suffering from ADD, I can better gather my thoughts this way. You can check Mini 1516: Mafia in Space to see the inception and progression of my gameplay.

Ok.

I don't know why, but I sense a sort of apprehension from you. Maybe it's the chili I ate earlier.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Whoa I get a special post.

I have a special place in my heart for intelligent females.

EspeciallyTheLies

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Who's your top Town and Scum reads?

BB as town. Gam as scum.

OK. Why?

You didn't ask that! I really liked BB's reaction test, despite the lame results. I am not discounting that scum may do it to, but in my opinion, reaction tests are dangerous for scum because it reveals a lot about a lot of people, depending on the result. I think BB would stay away from that as scum.

Gam I explained. He needs to post more. I don't have anything else on him at the moment other than what I noticed in his pre-vote post.

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Say your gut is strongly telling you someone is Scum, but there was no logic or evidence behind it. Is anyone here that person so far?

Gut scum read with no evidence or logic... um... I haven't had one of those yet. I need a bit more from everyone.

Fair enough. With time I will ask you this again.

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What's your read on DBK, Lucky, and Aptil?

I like DBK so far. I feel he's going to be a bit more difficult for me to read, the same way ffery is hard to ready, because they are both such calm posters it's hard not to equate it with towniness on a gut level.

Lucky is leaning more town. I am waiting to see his reactions to other wagons besides his own. So far I like what he's done since getting the sillies out of his system.

Aptil, I don't know. I don't like her posts yet, but I've seen her style in other games. She tends to be lynch bait.

Aptil's a he, and he regrets sounding like April.

Interesting on DBK. Do you consider me calm as well? Just curious. Does your gut say he's leaning a little Town or Scum?

(I have always thought Aptil was April because his avatar was April from TMNT... )

Gut tells me Bo is leaning town.

And right now I consider you calm which is not very similar to your town games, but I've never seen one of your scum games so I have you as "fucking weird, need to sort". It's also not the same kind of calm from Bo. There's a difference between logical calm and creepy forced calm.

What if people thought you and Lucky were Scumbuddies, and you two just did a distancing act? Crazy, right?

lol... not something I considered. It's one theory I suppose, though it's incorrect. This would mean you find both of us scummy independently, but I actually feel you think I'm scummy, and Lucky by association. That's a little weird to me.

Aptil's lynchbait because he's not very intimidating. "Oh my God, it's Aptil." "Oh my God, it's Bob." "Eddie." 'April." Whenever I read his name I think spring, flowers, and chocolate eggs. Aptil, put a zombie dragon in your avatar immediately.

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I just don't see the case on Lucky, and I'm not buddying him, either. You're basically voting for him because he made some fluffy posts instead of getting serious all up in this bitch. I usually make at least one unserious post within the first few pages, just for fun and, well, sometimes I have fun mid and late game, too.

I did it to sort him, and now he's mostly sorted for me. But I'm also no longer voting him (I'm voting gam).

Uh huh. And what did you learn? Maybe you shifted towards Gam too quickly, considering your earlier show of tenacity? (PSST~It means I suspect you a little. Don't worry.)

I wanted to see his reaction to pressure. It took him a moment, but like I said, his post 126 and 127 make me lean more town on him. I don't understand what you mean, "shifted to Gam too quickly"? In whose opinion? If that is

your

opinion, then explain why. I obviously don't think so. Right now I'm not using my vote to lynch people, if you hadn't noticed.

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Garmr, if memory serves, has at least one Scum game and a few Town games. However, I may be wrong.

Ok?

You gave me a bland muffin when I wanted a delicious cupcake. Don't do this. Ever. Clearly this segment pertained to your mention of Gam possible being Newb Scum.

You made a bland statement and did not ask me for anything. Am I supposed to read your mind? Come on now. That's not really fair, is it? To set someone up to fail and then chastise them for it when they do? If you want to know something, ask me what you want to know. Don't just throw out random statements and expect me to instantly know what you want.

The newbie scum comment came from the general feel of his posts and his join date.

Did you really need to me to actively explain that to you?

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I sorta kinda see your point in #124, but I'm not sold on it yet. Anything else that makes you suspect them?

Nope. I explained it a bit further a couple posts ago, you may have missed.

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Hm...

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What are all the points you have against Lucky and Garmantz for reference' sake, please.

I am not suspecting Lucky at this time. See my post 132 for the answer to this question.

Out of curiosity, should your newfound target flip Town, how would you like your neck broken? Lengthwise or crosswise?

What the hell are you talking about? It would be nice if people would just apply some fucking pressure on him so I can see what happens.

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This is my signature. My method of Scumhunting. I'm better able to play using this technique. Suffering from ADD, I can better gather my thoughts this way. You can check Mini 1516: Mafia in Space to see the inception and progression of my gameplay.

Ok.

I don't know why, but I sense a sort of apprehension from you. Maybe it's the chili I ate earlier.

It must be. Define apprehension and how you imagine I would manifest it via my posts. Then go find a common example from any of my other games to support this statement.

[Zebe]

Bep Boop.

I've read the thread few times now, but I (still) need time to think. I don't have solid reads yet, but DBK, Wake, ETL and maybe BB are leaning town at the moment. Rest are null, scummy or nothing. Anyone can ask questions and whatnot.

VOTE: Kalimar

Let's see what happens.

[Does Bo Know]

Oh crap

I just remembered that Zebe and KBW are like super lurkers, and that Kalimar hasn't done anything yet.

@Zebe: Is there a reason for voting Kalimar besides "just because?"

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Bep Boop.

I've read the thread few times now, but I (still) need time to think. I don't have solid reads yet, but DBK, Wake, ETL and maybe BB are leaning town at the moment.

Rest are null, scummy or nothing.

Anyone can ask questions and whatnot.

VOTE: Kalimar

Let's see what happens.

Expand on that please. Who do you think is null, why? Who do you think is scummy? Why? And what is "nothing"?

[Zebe]

@DBK: I find 34 interesting. Kalimar is just visiting here to vote Wake (to -2 as he mentioned). It's also nice you remember me...

@ETL:
Null: Mr_Blonde, Smudger and aptil because almost nothing to read.
Scummy: Gam and Kalimar leaning scum (more or less) because I cannot see reasoning behind some of their votes except wagoning.
Nothing: KBW, simply no posts...

I didn't include either Cheery Dog or lucky, I'm not decided where to put them yet.

[Does Bo Know]

Oh wait I forgot he posted and I was too lazy to go back.

There's also nothing wrong with wagoning votes in RVS.

Why don't you think pressuring Gam is better than having a sole vote on Kalimar?

[Lucky2u]

@DBK: I find 34 interesting. Kalimar is just visiting here to vote Wake (to -2 as he mentioned). It's also nice you remember me...

@ETL:
Null: Mr_Blonde, Smudger and aptil because almost nothing to read.
Scummy: Gam and Kalimar leaning scum (more or less) because I cannot see reasoning behind some of their votes except wagoning.
Nothing: KBW, simply no posts...

I didn't include either Cheery Dog or lucky, I'm not decided where to put them yet.

Curious. What's the difference between null/nothing/and the unnamed category for me and cherry?

[EspeciallyTheLies]

@ETL:
Null: Mr_Blonde, Smudger and aptil because almost nothing to read.
Scummy: Gam and Kalimar leaning scum (more or less) because I cannot see reasoning behind some of their votes except wagoning.
Nothing: KBW, simply no posts...

I didn't include either Cheery Dog or lucky, I'm not decided where to put them yet.

Ok so... your nulls are:

Blondie, Smudger, aptil, KBW, Cheery Dog, and Lucky.

"Nothing b/c no posts" = null
"I don't know where to put them" = null

So why the distinction instead of, perhaps, a tiered list?