A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?


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Post Post #5825 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:48 am

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In post 5819, Nautilius wrote:
In post 5796, Titus wrote:TA and Nautilus is likely TvT. I cannot see scum TA doing that, acknowledging he's been in a lurkish death tunnel on me and taking the time to prep that wall.
TA is town because :effort:?
You usually don't fall to such easily fake able things... Indefinitely never remember you seeing a wall and going "okay, town". he also didn't acknowledge a Kurdish death tunnel on you, so

I am a sucker for acknowledgement AND reformation, the pair rarely go together. I lack the time to explain beyond that.
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Post Post #5826 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:29 am

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In post 5806, Shadoweh wrote:Ugh, I really don't see Naut getting lynched when he's practically driving the train right now. I'd frankly feel bad voting him. Maybe that's just my chickenness talking. (Not that I don't like my avatar, I just literally can't change it <_< ) I'm kind of garbage this game.
This train needs a new conductor, stat. Come talk to me, I'm proof garbage can stop stinking.
In post 5812, Titus wrote:TA, your play is consistent with idiot. You FoS heavily on town. Withdraw when proven false and go back to the drawing board.
It's needlessly antagonistic and derogatory shit like this that keeps bringing your slot down to the scumfuck level for me. And other things, but I've no time to waste on you right now.
In post 5817, Nautilius wrote:Now, the reason that I quoted your cases and singled them out because regardless of shenanigans, one two cases were the only two pieces of content you contributed during the time where you were town as fuck and the most engaged. Part of it is that there's nothing ultra town lurking in those posts, fair, and I will address it when you do. The other part in that case is that it doesn't really make any sort of sense; your case on him was sheeping what people had already said plus one additional golden nugget where you go *and* he didn't sort them out, but that doesn't matter at all.
I don't understand what you mean by "and I will address it when you do". Address what? In fact, what is this paragraph even trying to say?
In post 5817, Nautilius wrote:You do correctly more that I called you town a bunch day 1. For light attitude. For posting that generally felt good. You can see how that doesn't necessarily hold too much weight day 9, right? You can see how I have townreads who have done a lot more than what you did day 1 hold up beyond your play, no?
You were defending the fuck out of me up until the tail end of Day 8. Obviously Day 1 shit shouldn't carry me this far, but apparently somehow it did for you. What's your point?
In post 5817, Nautilius wrote:I also did like your middle finger up to tierce, similar to how I liked shadoweh and tierce trolling of me. I generally like when townies with easier to figure out metas are snarky, I'm your face; it's an aggressive move to throw around your towniness that can be afforded because you are confident that you will be read correctly eventually. Here, the context is different. Tierce calls you out on something that's pretty readily justified and you respond with "you pushed mislynches, nyeh". Which is not exactly anywhere close to a compelling argument (or, since you were railing on me for using weak language earlier, this is scummy bullshit mudslinging and you know it. What else was your purpose?). Also, does bringing up a dead townies name mean that my case has less merit? Considering my argument doesn't consist of "oh tierce said he was scum".... No, it doesn't. Nice attempt at a discredit though!
Tierce was being snarky, so I decided to be snarky back. Way to completely ignore my original counterpoint, which was "you didn't jump on this as scummy earlier (in fact you called it town), and the person you copied this idea from came to think it wasn't scummy either, so why are you bringing this up again?"
In post 5817, Nautilius wrote:You townread quadz when he claimed macho cop and apparently have a hidden thought process that backs that up. I'm happy with that point staying right there.
This shows an exemplary lack of knowledge of my scum meta, for someone that knows my scum meta so well.
In post 5817, Nautilius wrote:You think I was setting up for your lynch by calling you a policy lynch (still implying you were town)? And it wasn't a reaction test because I didn't blow the lid immediately? These two points are horrible and shouldn't need refuting, but for your amusement: I have no need to posture for your lynch. Saying "man I would policy lynch that guy" isn't very good posturing to set up for a lynch. Secondly, reaction tests like that usually last a while, as you saw in stack the deck.
You
had
the reaction (according to you) and you
still
went on with the policy thing. Which is rather secondary to my actual point, which was YOU WENT FROM NEVER LYNCH THIS TO POLICY IT TO SCUMREAD IN <5 POSTS. Why the fuck are you wasting my/everyone else's time explaining what a fucking reaction test is when you're not actually addressing my point???
In post 5817, Nautilius wrote:Your response to meta case is: what about all those games I played in a hydra? Yes, you lurk as town in hydras. Do you want to know why? Because in those hydras, you have players that can cover for you and generally don't need you in order for the slot to prosper. When you are the only person representing your slot, you are responsible for that slot being read and you are responsible for pushing lynches through that slot. In no other toe games no matter how short (save curse of pleadon which wasn't a game) you have shown more dedication to the game and produced more content than you have here. This is not the case for your scumgames.
Dude.
Dude.
You are not town.

Hunter Hunter. One Day of goodposting, lurked to doom and gone. Xylbot, lurked to doom and gone until Tierce interested me. Raptured; goodposting Day 1, one case on Fery, lurked till LyLo.

Furthermore, you know full well I'd never bother to go to all this fucking effort to save my own ass as scum right now. Remember MyLO? Harry Potter? Ferygame? You bloody well ought to; you were in all of them.
In post 5824, Nautilius wrote:Oh and holy shit - TA, you claim to have no time for the game ever to do anything but suddenly become flush with time when I call your ass out and start pushing you? You don't think you could have made a little bit of time earlier...?
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Post Post #5827 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:27 am

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Syr, I am antagonistic. Period. Your play has bern stupid. If you expect PC crap from me look elsewhere.
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Post Post #5828 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:57 am

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In post 5812, Titus wrote:MC, I have proven the dual claimers one must be scum to myself. I understandI have the burden to convince you. You have the burden to convince me. I am going to try again because I feel TA is a lurktastic moron.

First, we have two fake claimers. Ooba's timing was right when kanye's wagon was the weakest. He was quickhammered before I could see it and say fake guilty or scum cop.

Benmage causes another mislynch on a player who had almost worked his way to conftown status. Noapparent town motivation exists for the claim.

Two suspicious claims under the circumstances, at least 1 is scum.
The only reason you have proven it to yourself is because you are making Ooba's fakeclaim sound prettier than it was. Kanye wasn't a viable lynch option until Ooba fakeclaimed. Garruk had not even come close to working his way to conftown.

Both fakeclaims were equally bad. There does not have to be scum among them, and Ooba's was just as (if not more) dubious than Benmage's, so your analysis is just wrong.
In post 5822, Nautilius wrote:Re deep:

1) they commented on it, which you can verify yourself. I never said they took a stance. Why wouldn't scum be able to take a stance, do you think?

4) I don't know what impact FF would have on your game. What impact does he have on your game? Wrt llamarble, llamarble can't coach him on something he has no understanding of. Which is sort of obvious and a point I feel I brought up before. His posting here and in Space Maria is pretty comparable. Yes there were points where he posted more in Space mafia, but... So?
1) The only comment they made was that we shouldn't put off sorting the 1v1...which is exactly what they proceeded to do.
4) I think it's a mistake to base hydra reads on single heads while ignoring the partner, which you have done on both Borden and us. Marble doesn't need to understand it if Empire does--are you suggesting that Empire doesn't know what it takes to get townread by Tammy and Tierce? Because the combination of Empire's knowledge of his own meta + Marble's ability as a scum player seems like a prime recipe for fooling them. Why can't you see this?

And the point is, he sacrificed time he could have spent in this game (where he was universally townread since D1 and had caught 0 scum) to recalibrate on D1 of Space Mafia. Do you think town-Borden led by Empire who had had such a shitty towngame would choose D1 of a new mini over trying to figure this game out? Because I don't.

@ Magua: I'm only seeing four possible Borden votes--you, us, Ben, Titus. Do you see two more? If not, vote Alchemist.

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Post Post #5829 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:59 am

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unvote vote Alfred


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Post Post #5830 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:00 am

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MC, vote alred. Naut will wakeup.
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Post Post #5831 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:01 am

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I'll believe it when I see it.

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Post Post #5832 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:02 am

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Post Post #5833 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:15 am

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Day 9, Vc 9

The Alchemist (2) -
Nautilius, Cephrir
Benmage (1) -
Titus
ooba (1) -
SafetyDance
Messiah (2) -
ooba, Alfred Borden
Nautilius (1) -
The Alchemist
Alfred Borden (3) -
Magua, Benmage, Messiah Complex

Not voting (1)
: Shadoweh

With 11 alive it takes 6 votes to lynch
  • Deadline Date: 26th of December 19:30 EST
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Post Post #5834 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:18 am

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P obv I'm not getting Naut votes. Fuck it. L-2.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Alfred Borden
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Post Post #5835 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:47 am

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@OOBA
lets go bro.
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Post Post #5836 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:31 pm

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Ok. I am not getting ooba or benmage.

VOTE: AB
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Post Post #5837 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:59 pm

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UNVOTE: Alfred Borden
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Post Post #5838 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:00 pm

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Flash wagon makes me nervous.
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Post Post #5839 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:01 pm

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On phone cant check precise nights
Balerion the black dread
End of d1 dragon rider tammy failed
D2 dragon rider tierce success
Tierce knows empire better than anyone. she wasnt happy about our activity but certified us town with way more info than you guys have.
Also we ate amrun corpse and learned of Hes a Monster
If Joffrey baratheon is in the setup hes scum with means of concealing identity and 1shot death immunity
Shared info with tierce so she could coin
Thought garruk and someone else potential joffreys due to lannister gold

hhae another ability im not claiming because It can still help and is best unknown
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Post Post #5840 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:05 pm

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@Alchemist:
You've really got zero said about Alfred. None of what you've said so far has been about Alfred; the only people you've given a read on today has been Nautilus.

Kindly enlighten me with your thought process that led from "Thank God I'm going to be lynched" to "1v1 time with Nautilus!" to "Alright, I'll vote Borden"

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Post Post #5841 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:06 pm

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In post 5838, Magua wrote:Flash wagon makes me nervous.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Post Post #5842 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:07 pm

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Oh, yes, Benmage, because the fucking quicklynches have worked out so fucking wonderfully so far.
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Post Post #5843 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:10 pm

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Dragon rider neighborizes.
I have it again today.
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Post Post #5844 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:10 pm

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The OoOOoOOoOOO I have secret information... only I must know Im the key!!!! didn't u read my pm to faraday.. its scum bullshit twisting, and town thinking they're hot shit when they aren't.

You think alfred has all that and some super thing up his sleeve... its page what? You shouldn't have to read another line of text... Its all there.. its been there the only thing changes now is analysis after flips...

ZZZzzzzz

take all the time you need... Ill be the one at the end going I told you so.
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Post Post #5845 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:12 pm

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ALFRED has mutlitple neighborizes, is a coroner, AND something up his sleeve he cant reveal. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #5846 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:12 pm

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Im tempted to targwt shadoweh so she can ride us all nifht long after all
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Post Post #5847 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:15 pm

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Tammy/Syranna marriage... Garruk/Shadoweh neighbor given a strongarmvig... Cephrir/kkb 1 way notes..... and now Alfreds a town neighbor too.. *cough bullshit* *cough*
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Post Post #5848 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:18 pm

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Titus was your other best town read Magua.....

Ball

You


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Post Post #5849 (ISO) » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:21 pm

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@Alfred:
Kindly redo your claim fully at some point. Preferably tonight. I can make assumptions about things like "Ate Amrun's corpse" but I'd vastly prefer if I didn't have to. Your powers, how they work (eg, why do you have another Neighborize shot tonight?), how you used them, etc.

Also, I'm going to assume this is Llamarble doing this, unless told otherwise.

@Benmage:
Town or scum, complaining about "people withholding secret information" while you fake guiltied Garruk means you're a fucking hypocrite. And, truth be told, given the level of reads you've shown so far this game, you pushing a wagon is quickly becoming a good reason to
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