Mini 1531 ~ Mafia Pinnipedum (Game Over!)

[walked into a club]

You have PA as in your strongest townpile?

Wow.

plz explain.

Both heads are pretty confident in this read. There's a towntell penguin has that she's dropped here, that to the best of my knowledge is still accurate. Mala has a good feel from being a hydra partner of hers, (Turkish van) as well.

[Selkies]

I hate when you give me that unspecified towntell crap. Especially when you haven't begun to make yourself town to me.

Why are you leaning scum on Garmr?

[Selkies]

Idk about fery but cabd seems pretty weird right now

And it's not like me where I don't know how to read fery so sometimes I flail around a bit and tries to get her to react

fery are you on gchat

[Natirasha]

VOTE: Club

[Plum]

UNVOTE:

Hate to break it to you, the choice between Penguin and Smudger is very much a brainer. Please hold.

[walked into a club]

VOTE: Club

Yawn.

UNVOTE:

Hate to break it to you, the choice between Penguin and Smudger is very much a brainer. Please hold.

Oh? Do tell.

[Natirasha]

I play by my own rules, Cabd-sama.

[Plum]

UNVOTE:

Hate to break it to you, the choice between Penguin and Smudger is very much a brainer. Please hold.

Oh? Do tell.

Both are scummy. Deliberation time on my end.

[Does Bo Know]

UNVOTE:

Hate to break it to you, the choice between Penguin and Smudger is very much a brainer. Please hold.

Oh? Do tell.

Both are scummy. Deliberation time on my end.

I don't believe you.

I think if Smudger were actually scum that the Penguin wagon wouldn't have gone up so quickly,

while

the Smudger wagon maintained its magnitude.

[walked into a club]

I think if Smudger were actually scum that the Penguin wagon wouldn't have gone up so quickly, while the Smudger wagon maintained its magnitude.

... What? Did you mean the opposite?

[Plum]

To clarify: both are scummy of their own merits. One of the things I need to deliberate about is what the tempo and so forth of the wagons might signify about their relative likelihoods of being scum.

[Does Bo Know]

I think if Smudger were actually scum that the Penguin wagon wouldn't have gone up so quickly, while the Smudger wagon maintained its magnitude.

... What? Did you mean the opposite?

Wait

I think so.

But Plum do you think they're both scum? Or just scummy?

[walked into a club]

Not really seeing scum-PA.

would you mind talking to me about her?

in maniacal, You were pretty certain on your read of her because of things I didn't understand even after you explained it to me but, over time you were a little washy on that read. Ultimately, you thought she was scum and had made that evident to me within out chat. you know her better than I do so I'm receptive to your opinions on her.

Pedit: Initial push on people D1, period.

You tend to pick up on behaviors that are more anti-town than scum, IMO and town-you tends to think they are actual scum-tells when they aren't. You did that in the other plague game, I think

Yeah it was something that at the time I recently figured out so it was one of those shiney new things at the time. I'm not so sure that tell I used there is that reliable in Day 1 however, but gut is telling me that this isn't scum-Peng.

I only got washy on it because she was the ONLY person there who was willing to communicate with me there (other than you ofc) and it gave me warm and fuzzies and made the bad feelings go away.

I SAID I WAS SORRY

I ate a bitter pill this morning.

[Plum]

I think if Smudger were actually scum that the Penguin wagon wouldn't have gone up so quickly, while the Smudger wagon maintained its magnitude.

... What? Did you mean the opposite?

Wait

I think so.

But Plum do you think they're both scum? Or just scummy?

I don't think they're particularly likely to be scum together, no.

[kanyeknowsbest]

personally i was orig thinking they were both scum when i placed my vote, but the speed with which smudger followed onto the wagon leads me to think otherwise at this point. there does not appear to be the "should i bus to save my skin" delay that i was expecting.

[Plum]

Well, the first thing I found just scanning the votecounts (trying to look at wagon composition and change) was that I don't trust Purple Plague much anymore.

[Kazekirimaru]

Mm. The PA wagon is bad for the speed and timing alone. I'm surprised people are actually entertaining the idea that it's legitimate.

Selkies's 627. Gives me the bad feels. "Idk about fery but cabd seems pretty weird right now" Just bleh.


Plum, what's your conclusion on the two wagons if you think they're both scummy but not scum together?

[Does Bo Know]

Mm. The PA wagon is bad for the speed and timing alone. I'm surprised people are actually entertaining the idea that it's legitimate.

Selkies's 627. Gives me the bad feels. "Idk about fery but cabd seems pretty weird right now" Just bleh.


Plum, what's your conclusion on the two wagons if you think they're both scummy but not scum together?

This is kinda how I feel too tbh

[Kazekirimaru]

Yet you're voting PA...?

[Does Bo Know]

Oh

UNVOTE:

I thought I did that already

[Kazekirimaru]

Oh

UNVOTE:

I thought I did that already

[Plum]

VOTE: Smudger

Yeah, this is the play today.

Ehhhhh. The actually

might

both be scum; I was speaking mostly on odds. I tend to think of the odds of having two scum run up, and both at least L-2 simultaneously Day 1, as vanishingly low. Regardless. I want Smudger's blood.

[Garmr]

Something just dawned on me something I was forgetting to ask but told to shut up on and was hushed. But now I have to ask it.

lol raise your amount of content because you been pushed a bit suspicious much.

Have you considered taking the advice from my username lately? VOTE: Garmr

Why do you think he's scum?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=5338111
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31972
compare to
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31636
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=31485
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=32209
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31202
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=30956

Clubs Reason for voting me earlier on. This obviously cabd path as this quote.

Also mala is out with the flu so it's all cabd all the time for now.

Gives us confirmation his had little contact with Mala.

Which means all that meta work was done by cabd alone and when I ask what his reason were he pushes me off.

with out reading them.

I'll let somebody not-me explain to you why the above is incorrect.

God fucking dammit Cabd.

I prefer Arceus Dammit myself but you can choose your own deity. If you want a full explaination of the meta parallels, it will have to wait until tomorrow, it's bed time here. As for the motivation? I've totally gotten into 1v1s before as scum because early smokescreen rocks. You're probably a better judge of motive than me, though. The meta thing is a crutch for sucking at reading players the normal way. Don't write gamr off as a newer player incapable of doing something like an early 1v1, he's better than you might guess.

Still posting meta shit like it's a case but never actually bringing up the reasons. Does promise it for the next day but I haven't seen it. Also mala still isn't in the picture.

You're town, and you're bad

Really? I think I'm feeling the opposite actually.

You really do suck as town, Cabd.

You don't get to townbin me this quickly.

Doesn't refer back to the meta he promised hasn't used any parallel's and pretended like it never existed just pushes criticisms aside.

I also dislike the fact that my absence means I never gave garmr the meta case he wanted and yet past the initial dig at me there was no followup at all about it. Seems he was content to take a potshot and leave it at that.

Mentions the meta read again finally thank fuck.I have been out partying and only mala has been online from what I can tell looks like he is trying to squirm out of giving it.

I want explanations why your dodging it Cabd Because with out your meta your first vote was bogus with out it. So please give an explantion.

[Garmr]

was that a hammer?

[Kazekirimaru]

L-1, I believe.