Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[GuyInFreezer]

PITOLI - Who do you suspect today?
Same question to Sakura-GiF.

Dunno
My reads are in total jumble

[GuyInFreezer]

O rite
Hydra
I'll quote them later

[Nachomamma8]

PITOLI - Who do you suspect today?
Same question to Sakura-GiF.

Dunno
My reads are in total jumble

Well that seems like bullshit, considering you should have a hell of a town block right now. I know I do!

[GuyInFreezer]

Normally I should've but I don't for many reasons and I won't bother listing why
But i can say this though: so far my townblocs are all of your scumreads.

[Tammy]

Will people stop acting like they are cops who got a clear over night. Both Pitoli and SakGif can't be cops who cleared Nacho and Rufflig respectively, so just stop, all you're doing is making my reads even more confused.

[Nachomamma8]

Normally I should've but I don't for many reasons and I won't bother listing why
But i can say this though: so far my townblocs are all of your scumreads.

Did you cop Rufflig last night?

[Minami no Hana]

PITOLI - Who do you suspect today?
Same question to Sakura-GiF.

Dunno
My reads are in total jumble

O rite
Hydra
I'll quote them later

Normally I should've but I don't for many reasons and I won't bother listing why
But i can say this though: so far my townblocs are all of your scumreads.

[Minami no Hana]

Normally I should've but I don't for many reasons and I won't bother listing why
But i can say this though: so far my townblocs are all of your scumreads.

Did you cop Rufflig last night?

It was either that or option 2
I preferred option 2 but sak wanted to go with it
I still think option 2 was the better idea

[Nachomamma8]

VOTE: Pitoli

[Nachomamma8]

Now convince me why she is in your town block.
My current town block is:
You, Orc, Kaze, Rufflig, Mac, Fuzzy, Tammy

Which leaves something like:
Hawkie
Myko
Pitoli

And I sort of doubt myko scum thanks to Mara replace out, so I guess I'd downgrade Kaze and fuzzy a notch if I was being extra careful.

[Minami no Hana]

Isn't the townslip I mentioned long time ago is not enough for you?

[Minami no Hana]

The rest of the playerlist I really have to set myself an hour or two with Sakura and go over them

[pitoli]

ugh

[Nachomamma8]

Isn't the townslip I mentioned long time ago is not enough for you?

Considering I don't know what the hell the township is, no. It isn't.

[pitoli]

UNVOTE:

[Minami no Hana]

Random ISO when I have a time~
(This will help me form an updated readlist eventually by the time I finish ISOing.)

Kaze is so town because he's early aggressive omgz

Yes, I am aware of my meta.

And I didn't like this. Why not let Orci explain why you're town instead of running to the meta assumption?

Asking a good question.

No, I didn't like that test either, Kaze.

Why not?

Because it's totally possible someone wouldn't have thought "blue townie" was a literal description of the PM sitting in their inbox. I for one thought you were speaking figuratively so it's weird to me that you would jump on that and assume scum would try to be "in" on a role PM that could be easily verified by the OP.

And I didn't like this. Why not let Orci explain why you're town instead of running to the meta assumption?

That was to fferybork

Mmm yeah that's m'bad.

I am not surprised to see hedginess from a newbie. The part I don't like, however, is that Fuzzylogic seems to be repeating "you are observing X about me, and saying X is scummy. however, town can also do X" and yeah zzzzzzz

The first paragraph is a townslip if not towntell.
The second paragraph, as I said (I think I said it), I'm leaning towards the playstyle clash.

Because it's totally possible someone wouldn't have thought "blue townie" was a literal description of the PM sitting in their inbox. I for one thought you were speaking figuratively so it's weird to me that you would jump on that and assume scum would try to be "in" on a role PM that could be easily verified by the OP.

How is the role PM verified by the OP? I don't see any example role PMs, do you?

Fair enough. I remembered seeing the town wincon and for some reason assumed the rest was there. But still, you don't think it's a possibility that Fuzzy was not taking you at face value when you said "blue"?

Townslip #2.

As far as her general posts goes, it's not aggresssive. I played with pitoli once when she was scum and replaced out. In there, I remember she going aggressive against her pushes (also with a long post = long dick joke lol). In this game, she didn't look aggressive against her pushes so I guess that's another townpoint for her. Also, her general posts looked townish.

So I think she's town.

(1/12)

[mykonian]

prods are after three days, aren't they?

[Kazekirimaru]

Town

Kaze & Orci
Tammy
ProHawk
Mac
-------
pitoli
Myko
-------
Fuzzy
Nacho
Rufflig
SakuraGiF

Not so Town

Scumread positions interchangeable.

Mm. Hither.

VOTE: Minami no Hana

Rufflig likely scum with them.

[Minami no Hana]

Oi

Do you counterclaim me?

[ProHawk]

You're joking with a counter-claim right?

[Minami no Hana]

If I was serious I would post more than

Oi

Do you counterclaim me?

[Tammy]

Something doesn't feel right. If we believe all the claims/flips so far, town has a mason-like pair and a cop? A bulletproof bodyguard and whatever a necromancer is?

VOTE: nachomamma8

[The Rufflig]

Seriously Rufflig - No paranoia on Nacho at all, not even a little bit?

Want to know what my paranoia of Nacho has gotten me in the past? Nothing. Nacho was town. I'll start getting paranoid when I see a solid reason to suspect Nacho. I can't make a case on Nacho that does not depend on a flip that we do not have. In general, I do not make relational cases without flips. When I have made such a case before a flip, it was because there was a strong connection. However, I've always marked it as a conditional case if x flips scum. I do not recall ever acting on a relational case without a scum flip.

If you want me to be suspicious of Nacho then present something to be suspicious of. As far as I can tell, your paranoia of Nacho depends on my alignment. Since I know I'm town, I know your case on Nacho is wrong.

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@ Ruff

What , No scum reads??

Who do think needs to be lynched??

I did, but now I need to sort out Minami's claim and sort out why Tammy claims Pitoli is a cop that cleared Nacho. I don't see where Pitoli made such a claim. My initial thought was this is a semi role madness game, so x-shots of different sorts of cops is possible. Then I remembered Kaze's claim and that we have a quasi name cop floating about as well. Even with x-shots this seems to be getting a bit too town sided. Something isn't adding up.

[Tammy]

If you want me to be suspicious of Nacho then present something to be suspicious of. As far as I can tell, your paranoia of Nacho depends on my alignment. Since I know I'm town, I know your case on Nacho is wrong.

No? I'm not asking you to be suspicious of Nacho; it felt off that you weren't paranoid at all and just wrote him off as town without much thought, which I thought was possible if you were scum and he was town.

My suspicion of Nacho is based on gut and poe. If kaze/orc are a town pair, and if gifkura is a town cop with a clear on you, then there's no much left to choose from.

@ Ruff

What , No scum reads??

Who do think needs to be lynched??

I did, but now I need to sort out Minami's claim and sort out why Tammy claims Pitoli is a cop that cleared Nacho. I don't see where Pitoli made such a claim. My initial thought was this is a semi role madness game, so x-shots of different sorts of cops is possible. Then I remembered Kaze's claim and that we have a quasi name cop floating about as well. Even with x-shots this seems to be getting a bit too town sided. Something isn't adding up.[/quote]

Pitoli ended yesterday voting nacho then came in today backing off that suspicion. In fact, he made the claim that there were reasons to not suspect him. When someone comes out of night all of a sudden not suspecting someone they suspected going into night, I take that as they have role information for their shift. It was why I was getting frustrated because both Pitoli and Gifkura came out of night all of a sudden not suspecting the person they were the day before.

[Nachomamma8]

GiF, I still don't understand the townslip.