A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

ISO · Post Post #6025 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:31 pm

If I thought Benmage was scum on a different team, and I also knew Garruk wasn't on my team, it would have been in my best interests to chill and watch them both get lynched. Instead I tried to prevent the lynch because I doubted both that Benmage was an investigative role that chose not to act until like day 7 (IDC how few shots you have that's stupid) and because I doubted we would have me, SD, and a tracker variant in one setup.

ISO · Post Post #6026 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:31 pm

(In addition there is still no evidence for 2 scumteams)

Nautilius · Post Post #6027 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:45 pm

CONSTANT VIGILANCE

Shadowed is singing my paranoid thoughts to sleep.

ooba · Post Post #6028 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:45 pm

In post 6022, Shadoweh wrote:Mmmmmmno, I'm saying you thought he was scum on a different team because town has no reason to lie about who killed who.

Lord Varys:
I did what I did for the good of the realm.

Petyr 'Littlefinger' Baelish:
The realm. Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agree to tell each other over and over, until we forget that it's a lie.

Lord Varys:
But what do we have left, once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all.
Petyr 'Littlefinger' Baelish: Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, are given a chance to climb. They refuse, they cling to the realm or the gods or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

I've watched this scene like ten times and read the setup spec to see if I can get any clues to the setup. There must be some restriction on the scum team since they have 6 members - the dialogue also points to some mechanic that promotes strife\infighting within the scum.

Titus · Post Post #6029 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:46 pm

Ooba, how the hell do you know how many members the scum team has? Firgive me if I am beibg stupid. I am a wee bit drunk.

Titus · Post Post #6030 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:47 pm

In post 6027, Nautilius wrote:CONSTANT VIGILANCE

Shadowed is singing my paranoid thoughts to sleep.

No sense this makes young Padawan.

Nautilius · Post Post #6031 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:47 pm

Public info, all townies got it PMed to them at the start of the day thanks to my final ability. Did you not get the PM?

Nautilius · Post Post #6032 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:48 pm

In post 6031, Nautilius wrote:Public info, all townies got it PMed to them at the start of the day thanks to my final ability. Did you not get the PM?

Wrt how many scum were left. I didnnt think to ask everyone to confirm they got it before since I figured no one would deny it :/

Nautilius · Post Post #6033 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:48 pm

Titus, don't you delay in confirming its sketching me the fuck out

ooba · Post Post #6034 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:49 pm

Titus: From Goat on D2..

In post 1814, Goat on a Raft wrote:Hear us!

As of right now, there are six players alive who do not have the town wincon.

Also SCREW YOU GUYS WE WANTED FLIPS. GLORIOUS FLIPS.

VOTE: Amrun

Nautilius · Post Post #6035 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:49 pm

Ooba, I really do hate you.

ooba · Post Post #6036 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:49 pm

Lol Sorry

Titus · Post Post #6037 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:51 pm

In post 6033, Nautilius wrote:Titus, don't you delay in confirming its sketching me the fuck out

I am drunk and ignored the day start pm and just began posting. I figured it had no relevant info. :$

Titus · Post Post #6038 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:52 pm

Ooh gambit. Me likey. Nauty is town. Nauty or nice is asking the same question.

Titus · Post Post #6039 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:53 pm

Oh so GnR was jusr speculating.

GnR = Goat on a Raft. I love abbreviations.

Nautilius · Post Post #6040 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:56 pm

In post 6000, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 5998, Shadoweh wrote:No one wants to lynch Alfred anyways, and something something DRAGON FIRE Okay, I could accept that he's not lynched today
???????????????

We just had him at L-1!

@ Ooba: At daystart, Borden was not an option. Magua voting him changed the equation because Elle had them as town. Ben moved from Alch to Borden, and I knew Titus also had Borden as scum so that is 4 votes. Bandwagoning him got Alch to put him to L-1, which made it clear that Borden was now a realistic lynch option. So the vote stayed.

- Des

In post 5828, Messiah Complex wrote: @ Magua: I'm only seeing four possible Borden votes--you, us, Ben, Titus. Do you see two more? If not, vote Alchemist.

- Des

First quote makes it seem like Magua vote was what made it all better, but second quote shows that wasn't the case. The only reason the Borden wagon became viable was because of the wild card Alchemist switch over... But that happened after your vote. Why did you switch over when you did? Can you finally admit that the vote switches look sketchy?

ooba · Post Post #6041 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:56 pm

In post 6039, Titus wrote:Oh so GnR was jusr speculating.

??

Nautilius · Post Post #6042 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:58 pm

In post 6009, Benmage wrote:
OOBA/EVERYONE

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY... Myself, Titus, MC, TA and even Magua all voted/would vote Alfred. You don't think the remaining scum could weasel their way onto a the Alfred wagon if it were a mislynch.
ALFRED HASN"T BEEEN LYNCHED BECAUSE HE"S SCUM AND SCUM HAVE NO REASON TO BUS.

Do you mean that's why The Alchemist wasn't lynched? Or why Messiah wasn't lynched?

Titus · Post Post #6043 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:11 pm

In post 6041, ooba wrote:
In post 6039, Titus wrote:Oh so GnR was jusr speculating.
??

I replaced in after day 2, so GnR saying 6 ppl without town wincon is speculation. It could be five scums plus a traitor 6 scums or totally wrong no?

Shadoweh · Post Post #6044 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:23 pm

In post 6025, Cephrir wrote:If I thought Benmage was scum on a different team, and I also knew Garruk wasn't on my team, it would have been in my best interests to chill and watch them both get lynched. Instead I tried to prevent the lynch because I doubted both that Benmage was an investigative role that chose not to act until like day 7 (IDC how few shots you have that's stupid) and because I doubted we would have me, SD, and a tracker variant in one setup.

Okay, this is why I'm mad at you, because you didn't try to prevnt the lynch, you did this.

In post 5551, Cephrir wrote:Yeah, I'm gonna go with Benmage is lying. I don't even know what a tracker variant is, and the claim is far too convenient. I'm getting really sick of fake investigative roles, like REALLY sick.

That doesn't make Garruk town though. They are probably not scumbuddies but I'll be stunned if we don't find a scum between them. I have liked some of Garruk's reactions today but I don't know if it's sufficient to make up for the whole game for me.

In conclusion, bleh.

I mean you want to throw the no evidence of two scum team at me, maybe you shouldn't have done it first? How the fuck do you explain this bendy twisty timey wimey?

Shadoweh · Post Post #6045 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:25 pm

Hi drunk people! Although with Titus I'm not sure if I can tell the difference. Titus are you implying you turned your slot scum when you replaced in or something :V Goat wasn't speculating.

Titus · Post Post #6046 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:29 pm

You can't tell the difference between drunk me and sober me... that means no more posting. Good night. Apparently I need to reread GnR. My mussing his value makes sense why I thought he was scum when obvs wront.

ooba · Post Post #6047 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:59 pm

Naut: Your thoughts on a team of Alfred, Magua, Cephrir, TA?

ooba · Post Post #6048 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:06 pm

In post 5977, Alfred Borden wrote:If we lynch correctly today, we are in business.
If my role and one other both succeed, there is even potential for an additional lynch.

"One other"? Why didnt you use this before?

ISO · Post Post #6049 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:19 pm

In post 6044, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 6025, Cephrir wrote:If I thought Benmage was scum on a different team, and I also knew Garruk wasn't on my team, it would have been in my best interests to chill and watch them both get lynched. Instead I tried to prevent the lynch because I doubted both that Benmage was an investigative role that chose not to act until like day 7 (IDC how few shots you have that's stupid) and because I doubted we would have me, SD, and a tracker variant in one setup.
Okay, this is why I'm mad at you, because you didn't try to prevnt the lynch, you did this.

In post 5551, Cephrir wrote:Yeah, I'm gonna go with Benmage is lying. I don't even know what a tracker variant is, and the claim is far too convenient. I'm getting really sick of fake investigative roles, like REALLY sick.

That doesn't make Garruk town though. They are probably not scumbuddies but I'll be stunned if we don't find a scum between them. I have liked some of Garruk's reactions today but I don't know if it's sufficient to make up for the whole game for me.

In conclusion, bleh.
I mean you want to throw the no evidence of two scum team at me, maybe you shouldn't have done it first? How the fuck do you explain this bendy twisty timey wimey?

I guess that was worse than I remembered it. Your theory is still based on multiple scumgroup moonlogic though. Frankly, if there are two scum groups somehow (despite ya know the no more than one kill per night ever thing) then that's great and we can all dance together in the moonlight because this game isn't as hopeless as it looks but until I have some reason to believe this I'm assuming the worst.

And there's still no reason for Scumrir to stick his neck out at all there.