Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[TheFuzzylogic99]

though in my defense it was strongly based speculation....

[Kazekirimaru]

Holy ever loving fuck, Fuzzy. You don't just say things prefaced with "I know" unless you have results. I was about to go on a bloody crusade against either you or Orci.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

bc I was 100 percent sure I was right.... plus i am a complete dork

what do you think of a Tammy/ Myko vig and than a Pit Lynch. Tammy and Myko seems to be middle of the road and both could be scum in hiding. Not sure about that ....so I thought I would ask for feed back

[Kazekirimaru]

I like Tammy for town and I'm not so sure on Myko anymore after the flip. I was a bit worried about Myko since fferybork said they'd meta Myko and ended up dead before they had the chance but I decided that was probably not the reason for the NK.

[mykonian]

Oi

Do you counterclaim me?

This is a terrible response to a vote.

Let me explain why i asked

pitoli
Nachomamma8
MykonianMs Marangal
TheFuzzylogic99

In this list are the 4 people I don't have a strong strong town read on

I am going to vig one of these four people before the day ends and another should be lynched

Tell me who it should be

Pedit: I think myko is scum, but mara's replace out bugs me like holy hell

I think that's one very poor list. I want to lynch fuzzy but only because I can't get out of my mind that he's scum. The other two I'd be very surprised about if they weren't town.

I think there's from setup perspective something else to consider. Why is it that you could be doubly confirmed, both by killing and by your interaction with kaze? It's bordering on mod-humor.

Mara's replace out is a major pull for town-Myko, I think.

So from your perspective, you are strong towning nacho and believe kaze and minami.

This leaves the following list for you

MykonianMs Marangal
Tammy
ProHawk
TheFuzzylogic99
Mac

Who's scum

This list is much better already. Hawk could be lynchbait or scum who got lucky, I tend to go with the first. Mac is the guy who skirts around the edges of this game. I would be surprised if anyone had a strong read on him and I think that's the person you'd worry about. For me, tammy annoys me. I don't know if that's tammy or the role she got. Maybe other people think the same.

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch or no lynch.

Minami no Hana (2):mykonian, ProHawk(L-5)
The Rufflig (2):MafiaSSK, Tammy (L-5)
Nachomamma8 (1): pitoli, (L-6)

MafiaSSK (7): orcinus_theoriginal, TheFuzzylogic99, Mac, Nachomamma8, The Rufflig, Minami no Hana, Kazekirimaru (LYNCH)

Not Voting (1): Deacon Blues

Upon review, we're extending the deadline by 24 hours to account for site downtime the past few days.

Absolute deadline falls on Wednesday, December 18th, at 4PM GMT -7.

This is in (expired on 2013-12-19 16:00:00)

Since a lynch has been reached, the remaining 42 hours as of the hammer post have been added to Day 2's deadline.

First of all, there was scum on the MafiaSSK wagon. This is a bit of a crazy spoiler alert, but I think it might be Kaze. It doesn't make any fucking sense for there to be a player that confirms you, a role that pretty much confirms itself as town ANYWAYS, and the "I get my alignment confirmed" claim gives motive to Kaze claiming as early as he did.

YES. In sync. See, this guy is town.

a selfvote would be cool

And calling Kaze scum while not even addressing his claim is pretty fucking strange.
There's the whole "oh I would totally vig you" and "oh so you're saying you would vig a townie?" feels like scum theatre between two people who know they aren't getting lynched.

I had missed kaze's claim till pretty late, must have read over it with the reread.



I'm probably beating a dead horse by now, but sadly fuzzy is still alive. Last pages is analysing on basis of roles, easier to do then actual scumhunting. It's noob scum behaviour, I'd be happy if fuzzy died soonish, I think he's scum, I keep seeing things but it really doesn't matter that I keep writing about it because people aren't coming around to actually voting him.

[mykonian]

I like Tammy for town and I'm not so sure on Myko anymore after the flip. I was a bit worried about Myko since fferybork said they'd meta Myko and ended up dead before they had the chance but I decided that was probably not the reason for the NK.

indeed, doubtful. I am aware of ffery's meta, seen that I had just finished a game with her (being scum in that game). I also am aware of the biggest gaps between my scum and town meta and it's not beyond me to play closer to my town meta should ffery be in the game. After last game, I think I have a shot at getting inside her head with playing (as nacho might be able to confirm). There'd be other players I'd be worried about.

idk when the deadline is, but I wouldn't mind lynching minoha, a thing that got reinforced with their last posts. I think I'll want to lynch fuzzy all game long, and seen your enthusiasm, that's how long it's going to take. Mac's the main player I worry about. He'd be the guy who played scum well. Matter of "he's bugging me but I can't put my finger on why" and "if the game was a pool, he's making the least ripples". Same goes in lesser fashion for Tammy, but she's not as likable (to me. Not meant personally).

[Kazekirimaru]

I think I'll want to lynch fuzzy all game long, and seen your enthusiasm, that's how long it's going to take.

Like I said, if Orci is a vig, I want Fuzzy shot.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I like Tammy for town and I'm not so sure on Myko anymore after the flip. I was a bit worried about Myko since fferybork said they'd meta Myko and ended up dead before they had the chance but I decided that was probably not the reason for the NK.

indeed, doubtful. I am aware of ffery's meta, seen that I had just finished a game with her (being scum in that game). I also am aware of the biggest gaps between my scum and town meta and it's not beyond me to play closer to my town meta should ffery be in the game. After last game, I think I have a shot at getting inside her head with playing (as nacho might be able to confirm). There'd be other players I'd be worried about.

idk when the deadline is, but I wouldn't mind lynching minoha,

a thing that got reinforced with their last posts. I think I'll want to lynch fuzzy all game long, and seen your enthusiasm, that's how long it's going to take. Mac's the main player I worry about. He'd be the guy who played scum well. Matter of "he's bugging me but I can't put my finger on why" and "if the game was a pool, he's making the least ripples". Same goes in lesser fashion for Tammy, but she's not as likable (to me. Not meant personally).

Red Quote- This is just bad, bad bad. Not to mention you failed to address her claim or let her clarify before you . Mac is obvious town. i do not see how you see this. Moreover the scum list you agree with ( Pit"s list is full of town or fairly town read.

Scum
Pit, Myko ???

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Of course you want me shot that way you can kill a town and not get your hands dirty. The only good thing about me getting shot is it would clear Mac and Nacho.

[Kazekirimaru]

In what universe would it be okay to speculate about Lovers, Fuzzy?

[The Rufflig]

Merry Christmas!

(Why did the thread have to explode today?)

HE WAS SCUM READING YOU FOR THE WHOLE FREAKING GAME

Yes. So what? My first game out of the newbies was a theme game with Nacho. Nacho was mafia and I was the sk. Nacho fooled me a good portion of that game. I fooled Nacho all game (I won). Since then he has always scum read me in every game. I used to scum read Nacho every game too, but I've slowly grown out of that.

[pitoli]

I think that Necromancer is a reviver . Makes sense since in the series Jade was secretly bringing soldiers back to life.


VOTE: Pit

Merry Christmas to you too.

[pitoli]

@ The Original

I know that You are Asch the Bloody. It was pretty easy to figure out. The vig role does not make 100 % sense but from what I learned from deathnote the game sometimes is not always what it seems . There were a bunch of oddly placed PR in that game.. . I prefer you do not kill me however if you do than it will confirm my some of my reads so it wont be a total useless death. I think Pit would be the best choice. It would clarify the field as well as he the scummiest at the moment.

@ No Hana
Are you making a cop claim

Maybe I am wrong... It seems to be the most likely sense you claimed stalker.

In the mythos it says that Natalia loved Ascch but he did not love her back. Also that Natalia was heavily dependent on him. All this made me strongly believe that Orcina was Asch. Like i said i could be wrong

Lol what

[Tammy]

I don't know, I'm going to look into that now.

I think that if anyone has anything to do with with the Anises beloved thing, they should claim now. I thought that it was from fferybork role (see baby I didn't forget you, I'll be with you soon) and it determined if the person was the same alignment as a dead player, so limited ability to crumb after death. That would make for limited crumbling after death, and would explain why the role went unexplained.

I'm pretty sure it's me.

Hang on.

And I'm not exactly scum reading you, I'm I need nacho sorted reading you.

Also I had a dream last night that the necromancer wan someone who could take the powers of the dead. I don't think it's that, but that was my dream.

[pitoli]

Like a scavenger ish type role?

[Tammy]

Like a scavenger ish type role?

Yeah I guess, they became the bulletproof bodyguard.

Also, I skimmed like hell, so didn't really read. Need to go do the family thing so I'll be back in a bit.

But I'm pretty sure I'm the reason for the prohawk voting thing.

Ha!

I'm town

I rule, you drool.

VOTE: nacho

Bring the good stuff!

I'm emperor peoni (now do you get my joke?). Yes, I know I'm 10 and easily amused, sue me.

I'm a title vendor, basically I'm a fruit vendor, but I don't know if my fruit has any effects. I had a town read on prohawk so I gave him a title last night.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I fell asleep sry

[pitoli]

Need to check if fruit vendors can be anti town...

[orcinus_theoriginal]

3) Actually they get to see a role of someone town, which has its pros even if its a role not worth night-killing. Aside from that Mafia-Goons aren't that util anyway.

I just noticed this.

I don't know Orc's actual abilities, just his rolename and alignment. So, no.

@ The Original

I know that You are Asch the Bloody. It was pretty easy to figure out. The vig role does not make 100 % sense but from what I learned from deathnote the game sometimes is not always what it seems . There were a bunch of oddly placed PR in that game.. . I prefer you do not kill me however if you do than it will confirm my some of my reads so it wont be a total useless death. I think Pit would be the best choice. It would clarify the field as well as he the scummiest at the moment.

@ No Hana
Are you making a cop claim

wait a second WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

MY ROLE PM SAYS ORCI IS A DIFFERENT ROLE THAN THIS

hello

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Need to check if fruit vendors can be anti town...

this should not be your line of thinking

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I sort of want to mass claim. discuss.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

fuck it we're massclaiming

nacho<myko<fuzzy then whatever order you guys want

[Kazekirimaru]

Pourquoi, Orci?

[Tammy]

Mykos posting reminds me of his posting and the message I got from him when he was scum in Harry potter.

[pitoli]

Need to check if fruit vendors can be anti town...

this should not be your line of thinking

Why not? It's a double checking sort of thing for a role that essentially exists to confirm itself - its utility isn't town or scum inherently.

I don't think scum fruit vendors are completely unheard of, but the claim probably does help the town a little; every person with a confirmable role makes it easier for us to figure out the setup.