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Post Post #4900 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:17 am

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hikiraira wrote:Like this wagon is good, but how's its forming is sososososo sketchy. Like so sketchy I don't really want to join it...
nati, please don't do this

you're voting alongside someone who is basically confscum (ok, yeah, there's a possibility it's distancing, but i think that's unlikely in comparison to the possibility he's just looking for a mislynch, given he also voted baldy yesterday when it was a viable counter-wagon to espeonage)

plus, i'm tired atm but the way the votes have fallen today is making me think both the wagons that were leading for most of the day (baldy, you) are likely town wagons
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Post Post #4901 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:01 am

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VOTE: Voidedmafia

Ghostlin thought he was sketchy near the end of his time here, he never backed up his Harakiri argument to my satisfaction, and since Ghostlin was apparently right on NC where I was wrong, I'll sheep him in abstentia.

Garuda, I had no good reason to want Harakiri lynched beyond finding his wagon more towny than eagle's and wanting to see what would happen.
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Post Post #4902 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:07 am

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UNVOTE:

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Post Post #4903 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:02 am

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Hmm.

Muffin, your thoughts on the Voided wagon?

Garuda, why didn't you find the penguin wagon that exciting in this post? What changed your mind?
Garuda wrote:What does people being passive about the top two wagons have to do with anything? I will acknowledge that Voided has fell off a bit since earlier days, but I wouldn't call his stances meatless and I wouldn't say that he's completely disengaged from the game and stopped giving a shit ala Mhork who stopped doing anything since being the mouthpiece for Pyro.

Thanks for the Mhork townread!

What I said about Mhork is because Mhork went from "oh Nero is scum as hell, let's lynch" to "no no he's town". Voided was also aggressively against him, but his flip wasn't as dramatic as Mhorks. Voided also contradicts himself constantly in a way that looks like he doesn't give a shit about what he's saying anymore, and I would expect him to at least monitor his quotes in order to make sure that he's playing consistently, somewhat. He also has a nice moment where he gets paranoid on me when i act weird, where he makes a small push on you... voided is still trying to figure the game out. Mhrok isn't.
I didn't like how all the lazy votes were falling onto eagle and Harakiri, and thought it might be nice to shake things up a bit. Also, effort and innocence are not always correlated. Mhork may be posting less, but what he does say
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(And I knew you'd have that reaction to my Mhork read, but tough, I'm not going to pretend he's not townie just to deprive your conspiracy theory of more fodder.)

@Mhork: the reason not to discuss my target in the thread is Countermeasures.
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Post Post #4904 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:31 am

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Vote Count 6.19


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

1baldeagle1 (4): Harakiri, Nero Cain, uʍop ǝpısdn, VoidedMafia
penguin_alien (3): Lord Mhork, zMuffinMan, Garuda
VoidedMafia (3): Lost Butterfly, ProHawk, penguin_alien
uʍop ǝpısdn (1): 1baldeagle1

Not Voting (1): BBmolla

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Post Post #4905 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:24 am

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I'm confused. Are people saying that I'm lying about having Auction Detective? 'Cause that's really stupid.

Also I guess that penguin is my lynch for the day. I am NOT voting for baldeagle. He. Is. Town.
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Post Post #4906 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:21 pm

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Vote Voided.
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Post Post #4907 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:48 pm

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VOTE: Voided
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Post Post #4908 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:16 pm

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In post 4893, zMuffinMan wrote:are you reading LB as scum now, nacho? when did that happen?
Not confident scum, no.
Unless all three of these counterwagons are town or already have 2 scum on them.

But LB scum makes a ton of sense, and I suppose there might be horrible coordination going on.
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Post Post #4909 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:16 pm

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I mean, do you disagree?
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Post Post #4910 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:17 pm

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In post 4897, Harakiri wrote:Like this wagon is good, but how's its forming is sososososo sketchy. Like so sketchy I don't really want to join it...
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Post Post #4911 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:19 pm

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Voided, why do you think Mina-scum would be dumb to do what she's doing this game?
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Post Post #4912 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:19 pm

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Lots of nameless votes, a compromise factor...I don't like it sir, no I don't.

The wagon compositions of both voided and pa suck too. Like, why is Prohawk voting with one of his top scumreads?

I hate how everyone is avoiding eagle like the plague. I know games gonna end and he's gonna flip scum and everyone is gonna say I told you so.
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Post Post #4913 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:20 pm

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There is confirmed scum on the eagle wagon.
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Post Post #4914 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:22 pm

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In post 4901, penguin_alien wrote:VOTE: Voidedmafia

Ghostlin thought he was sketchy near the end of his time here, he never backed up his Harakiri argument to my satisfaction, and since Ghostlin was apparently right on NC where I was wrong, I'll sheep him in abstentia.

Garuda, I had no good reason to want Harakiri lynched beyond finding his wagon more towny than eagle's and wanting to see what would happen.
So you didnt have a reason for Harakiri scum?
And you don't have a reason for Voided scum except Ghostlin who never explained?

Even though today might be the last day?
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Post Post #4915 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:25 pm

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In post 4903, Lost Butterfly wrote:Hmm.

Muffin, your thoughts on the Voided wagon?

Garuda, why didn't you find the penguin wagon that exciting in this post? What changed your mind?
Garuda wrote:What does people being passive about the top two wagons have to do with anything? I will acknowledge that Voided has fell off a bit since earlier days, but I wouldn't call his stances meatless and I wouldn't say that he's completely disengaged from the game and stopped giving a shit ala Mhork who stopped doing anything since being the mouthpiece for Pyro.

Thanks for the Mhork townread!

What I said about Mhork is because Mhork went from "oh Nero is scum as hell, let's lynch" to "no no he's town". Voided was also aggressively against him, but his flip wasn't as dramatic as Mhorks. Voided also contradicts himself constantly in a way that looks like he doesn't give a shit about what he's saying anymore, and I would expect him to at least monitor his quotes in order to make sure that he's playing consistently, somewhat. He also has a nice moment where he gets paranoid on me when i act weird, where he makes a small push on you... voided is still trying to figure the game out. Mhrok isn't.
I didn't like how all the lazy votes were falling onto eagle and Harakiri, and thought it might be nice to shake things up a bit. Also, effort and innocence are not always correlated. Mhork may be posting less, but what he does say
feels
more genuine and passionate than Voided. Examples of times Voided has contradicted himself in a townish way? If anything, that's what I'd consider Mhork's paranoid Nero defence and then petulant Nero vote when people ignored him. (Voided just seems to have a lack of focus in his scumhunting. And I'd like his paranoia of me a lot more if he'd followed up on it.)

(And I knew you'd have that reaction to my Mhork read, but tough, I'm not going to pretend he's not townie just to deprive your conspiracy theory of more fodder.)

@Mhork: the reason not to discuss my target in the thread is Countermeasures.
Didn't find the penguin wagon exciting until reread.

Lazy votes is a dumb reason to find a wagon unlikely to hit scum when everyone is lazy at this point. Lack of focus in his scumhunting, sure. Mhork is scummy because he has lots of focus but no motivation, which is worse.

Townish contradiction is something like Voided bathroom paranoiaing on you and then calling you someone he won't lynch today, not Mhork bullshit.

I would like your Mhork read better if you didn't just support it with vague bullshit. I backed up my Voided read a while ago.
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Post Post #4916 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:27 pm

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Eh, I forgot countermeasures was a thing. Accept a pool of three people, then.
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Post Post #4917 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:29 pm

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In post 4914, Garuda wrote:
In post 4901, penguin_alien wrote:VOTE: Voidedmafia

Ghostlin thought he was sketchy near the end of his time here, he never backed up his Harakiri argument to my satisfaction, and since Ghostlin was apparently right on NC where I was wrong, I'll sheep him in abstentia.

Garuda, I had no good reason to want Harakiri lynched beyond finding his wagon more towny than eagle's and wanting to see what would happen.
So you didnt have a reason for Harakiri scum?
And you don't have a reason for Voided scum except Ghostlin who never explained?

Even though today might be the last day?
If it's multiball, how is today conceivably the last day?
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Post Post #4918 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:32 pm

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In post 4913, Garuda wrote:There is confirmed scum on the eagle wagon.
Nacho, you're a better player than to fall into this fallacy.
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Post Post #4919 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:33 pm

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Scum win condition is based on how many kills they get off, not whoever is the last surviving. If one mafia member successfully gets off 4 kills, which seem pretty likely, scum win.
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Post Post #4920 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:33 pm

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In post 4918, Harakiri wrote:
In post 4913, Garuda wrote:There is confirmed scum on the eagle wagon.
Nacho, you're a better player than to fall into this fallacy.
You're a better player than to care about wagon composition in possible lylo.
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Post Post #4921 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:49 pm

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In post 4919, Garuda wrote:Scum win condition is based on how many kills they get off, not whoever is the last surviving. If one mafia member successfully gets off 4 kills, which seem pretty likely, scum win.
...the two mafias win together. Oy.

Ghostlin did explain why he found Voided scummy.
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Post Post #4922 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:54 pm

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Hmmm.

I tried to lie to you in order to elicit a townie reaction such as "what the fuck are you talking about?" or "well, that's weird as shit". Instead, you figured out the actual setup from my bullshitting somehow.
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Post Post #4923 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:56 pm

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In post 4912, Harakiri wrote:Like, why is Prohawk voting with one of his top scumreads?
This is a silly argument. Why are you making it?
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Post Post #4924 (ISO) » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:02 pm

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Fuck all of you.

Fuck all of you.
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