Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[Kazekirimaru]

Actually

UNVOTE:

I'll get back to this.

[ProHawk]

For ease of viewing...

Role-Reveals

Player	Name	Role	Alignment
MafiaSSK	Anise Tatlin	Town-Aligned 1-Shot Bulletproof Bodyguard	Town
Deacon Blues	Jade Curtiss	Town-Aligned Necromancer	Town
Orcinus_TheOriginal	Luke fon Fabre	Town-Aligned Suicide Bomber	Town
Mykonian	Nephry Osborne	Town-Aligned Vanilla	Town
Kazekirimaru	Natalia Luzu Kimlasca-Lanvaldear	Town-Aligned Stalker changed Town-Aligned Unrequited Lover and Conditional Innocent Child	Town
ProHawk	Fon Master Ion	Town-Aligned 1-Shot Motivator	????
Tammy	emperor peoni	title vendor, basically a fruit vendor	????
Fuzzylogic99	Noir leader of the Darkwing circus	town alligned neighbor	????
Nachomamma8	York	Miller Neighbor	????
Pitoli	Mieu	Hider	????
The Rufflig	Guy Cecil	2-shot Gender Cop	????
MinamiNoHana	Tear grants Girl with a spear	JoaT with 1-shot cop and 1-shot JK	????
Mac	???	???? ????	????

[ProHawk]

Also just realized all of Pitoli, Nacho, and Rufflig claimed with claims that look like came straight from their role-card without the Town-Aligned portion.

Tammy and MinamiNoHana also claimed without the town-aligned part, but their claims were less of a copy and paste and more of a description.

[ProHawk]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rufflig

Really need this flip for my sanity.

[Nachomamma8]

One-shot cop + godfather isn't a real possibility.

[ProHawk]

Kinda like one-shot cop + Miller amirite?

[ProHawk]

Rufflig scum-flip guarantees your scum-flip in my book Nacho.

[Nachomamma8]

One-shot cop + miller makes more sense than one-shot cop + godfather.
An incorrect investigation in the first case is one mislynch and a confirmed one-shot cop.
An incorrect investigation in the second case is a loss for town.

[Nachomamma8]

Rufflig scum-flip guarantees your scum-flip in my book Nacho.

But it doesn't confirm a Minaho scum flip? Even though they have a claimed innocent on him and all?

[The Rufflig]

Rufflig, what is your result from last night?
Why do you think there is a gender cop in the setup when we already have a flavor cop?

You are correct, of course. I did use it last night on Tammy -> Male.

Most likely, I have been given a functionally useless role. It is possible there exists a scum out there whose fake claim gender does not match his true name gender. However, without names and only 2 shots, my role was unlikely to do more than prove that I have such a role.

[ProHawk]

An incorrect investigation in the second case is a loss for town.

With role-madness isn't this what they are going for?

[Nachomamma8]

An incorrect investigation in the second case is a loss for town.

With role-madness isn't this what they are going for?

Role madness is much different from horribly modded.
If you lose a game because your one-shot investigative role hit scum, it was 100% the moderators fault and not your fault since that is all the godfather can do if scum uses it optimally.

[ProHawk]

You mean hit the godfathered scum?

[Nachomamma8]

Yes. But scum nonetheless. How the hell are you supposed to know scum is a godfather? How is cop supposed to figure out a godfather if he only gets one investigation?

[ProHawk]

Why does that even matter?

[Nachomamma8]

What are you talking about?

[Nachomamma8]

Do you think one shot cop + godfather is a legitimate combination?
Do you think one-shot cop + miller + godfather is a legitimate combination?

[ProHawk]

I guess what I am trying to say is I think there is a large connection with you and Rufflig if he is scum and his flip would go miles in helping solve that. I have liked the improvement in your play in that it looks a lot more town than your play at the beginning, but something is still nagging me and its the whole Rufflig/SSK thing. It doesn't add up. I can also completely see you bussing Pitoli, because her result on you gave the general appearance of Nacho-town kinda like what Minami said with --->

Like, pitoli claimed hider and claimed that she hid behind nacho.
Doesn't that make nacho town regardless of pitoli's alignment objectively speaking?

Which doesn't actually make you town if Pitoli is lying about being a hider in the event she is scum with you and just trying to push some WIFOM into post-flip-analysis.

Want to know what happened with your "legitimate combination" theory? IT GOT MYKO SHOT.

[Nachomamma8]

Role madness -1 got myko shot more than anything else.
I realize that pitoli hiding behind me doesn't make me town. I dont know why Minaho thought as much.

[ProHawk]

Ok, so you want to lynch Pitoli over Minami?

[ProHawk]

Also, how confident are you now that all three of your neighborhood are town?

[Nachomamma8]

I still don't think any scumteam with Rufflig on it makes sense without Minaho also on that team, just like no scumteam with me on it makes sense without pitoli accompanying me.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: Pitoli

Yes, I would like to lynch pitoli over Minaho.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm still pretty sure that all three of the neighborhood are town, although Mac might need some rereading before I can make the incredibly town comment.

Do you think Fuzzy could be scum?

[ProHawk]

just like no scumteam with me on it makes sense without pitoli accompanying me.

Wait... so what does that mean if Pitoli flips scum?

No, Fuzzy looks pretty town to me. My top two town reads are actually first Tammy, then Fuzzy (aside from the IC).