Go read Sabo mafia, where EtL smoked XScorp b/c of an assumption like this.In post 79, Kagami wrote:Because flavor isn't alignment indicative, it is very unlikely that scum were given a fake-claim. There's no way bert would know to claim weak unless he is town.
Yeah.In post 108, Kagami wrote:Ok, here's what weak means:
You do not have maneuver gear.
In the advertisement for the game, it specifically says that the HUMAN faction gets maneuver gear, so it makes no sense for the scum, who already lack the gear, to get the special prefix.
The way you've derped through everything looks town.In post 116, Bert wrote:Well, I heard claiming miller right away was good. But, I can't remember who told me that way back when. Never actually drawn the role before until now.In post 115, Paschendale wrote:Isn't claiming right away considered optimal play for an actual miller?
I didn't mean to stir setup speculation and thought flavor and stuff was all just that - uncertain and flavorful, not necessarily alignment indicative - I was just claiming miller because I felt obligated to.
1) You suck at reading me.In post 127, pieguyn wrote:oh lordIn post 69, BROseidon wrote:I don't like the way you're pushing the Annie flavor based on the anime when the game's based on the manga, with Annie's alignment in the manga being incredibly clear. It's like you're simultaneously trying to write-off the flavor while using it to potentially position an attack later.
you're scum aren't you
this reminds me of how you jumped on Varsoon in imperishable night early game with a sketchy reason and iirc completely ignored everything else
I haven't seen the anime or read the manga .-. so I didn't know any of this, nor was I paying attention to exactly what this game was based off of, nor did I know this bc no one brought up the manga. so you're kind of right in that I'm not really paying much attention to the flavor, but I'm using what I'm picking up of it to try to figure out stuff
what makes you think I'm familiar with the manga?
holy shit you really are scumIn post 69, BROseidon wrote:wtf is Mykonian's read list.
vote: BRO
In post 68, pieguyn wrote:flavor doesn't determine alignment, which means that especially given annie's alignment in series was left unresolved annie's alignment in game could be just about anything
Were you just sheeping BS on your flavor comment, then?In post 127, pieguyn wrote:I haven't seen the anime or read the manga .-. so I didn't know any of this, nor was I paying attention to exactly what this game was based off of, nor did I know this bc no one brought up the manga. so you're kind of right in that I'm not really paying much attention to the flavor, but I'm using what I'm picking up of it to try to figure out stuff
Hi.In post 147, Paschendale wrote:Kagami was actively looking to get other players to claim. Lack of a weak signifier means PR abilities. Kagami not only sought to get people to claim having abilities, but also asserted that only town could have it. She pretended that it was the usual weak like a weak doctor, despite apparently knowing that it is not. She pushed for more discussion and claims over it. Everyone who replied "what do you mean, weak miller?" outed themselves as a PR. But they would not have if she hadn't revealed what it actually meant. I think it is far more likely that she or part of the scum team is a goon and has the weak modifier, hence how they know what it means. They're the only ones who get to see multiple PMs.
It looked like simple rolefishing until page 5, where she was just asking more weak people to claim, back when everyone thought that weak was the town-signifying modifier that it usually is. Then she revealed what it really means, and I (foolishly) hesitated. But after a little more thought, it looks like a deliberate attempt to get people to reveal that they are not weak before they understood the significance.
The explanation of what the modifier really meant gave me pause, but now I feel much more certain.
VOTE: Kagami
Are you her partner, Plum?
Then all the players who were openly puzzled by the "weak miller" are town, no?In post 151, BROseidon wrote:Yeah.In post 108, Kagami wrote:Ok, here's what weak means:
You do not have maneuver gear.
In the advertisement for the game, it specifically says that the HUMAN faction gets maneuver gear, so it makes no sense for the scum, who already lack the gear, to get the special prefix.
Scum were told this.
Otherwise this setup would be dumb.
1) Have you read any of my games?In post 153, Plum wrote:Bro is being smart about this.
I happen to have read sabo mafia; you and EtL smoked them with clever use of the stolen weak neighborizer ability to make it appear as though EtL was a vig who killed you. Where is the parallel?In post 150, BROseidon wrote:Go read Sabo mafia, where EtL smoked XScorp b/c of an assumption like this.In post 79, Kagami wrote:Because flavor isn't alignment indicative, it is very unlikely that scum were given a fake-claim. There's no way bert would know to claim weak unless he is town.
This is a terrible assumption to make.
No, I'm just appreciating someone being intelligent about this mess.In post 157, BROseidon wrote:1) Have you read any of my games?In post 153, Plum wrote:Bro is being smart about this.
wow nice discredit. still doesn't change the fact that you jumped on me early game for a sketchy reasonIn post 154, BROseidon wrote:1) You suck at reading me.
this is a blatant strawman. it's not bc you made an early pressure move, it's bc the early pressure move you made was shit and it p much exactly matches up with how you played in imperishable night. your jump on Varsoon in that game was an early pressure move, but it was bad bc the reasoning for it was sketchy as fuck. what's different about this?In post 154, BROseidon wrote:2) I make early pressure moves regardless of alignment
I was sheeping what everyone was saying about the flavor bc if everyone agrees about it then it's probably true. I had no way of knowing whether said flavor was BS or not, and from what people are saying it doesn't appear to be BS in the first place.In post 154, BROseidon wrote:Were you just sheeping BS on your flavor comment, then?
can you explain why you thought there wouldn't be a 3rd weak player? bc I can't look past it and how it seems like damage control. and I'm not sure I buy that such a large amt of apprehension comes from "I don't like breaking games"In post 144, Kazekirimaru wrote:I kinda thought I addressed the point. My skepticism obviously just kinda disappeared after Bert showed up.
if you believed there was another weak player why you'd be skeptical of Kagami for doing the same thing? did you think there wasn't a 3rd weak player?In post 167, Kazekirimaru wrote:I didn't say I thought there wouldn't be. I was asking Kagami why she was assuming there would be. There's quite a difference.
Scum and town, respectively.
why do you think he'd always do the most obvious strategy? this is the same guy who stole a weak neighborize and suicided on his partner just to give her a ridiculous amt of towncred. it's obvious BRO would NOT necessarily make the obvious scum play all the time and I could totally see him doing this for the towncredIn post 171, Kazekirimaru wrote:Bro pretty much disassembled the entire "We can find the scums based on the Weak modifier" idea that was floating around. If he were scum, he would have let the town indulge that poor avenue of thinking and probably try to score some mislynches off it rather than argue against it. I'm not voting Bro. He's town.
it's a big deal bc he's relying on incorrect arguments, discrediting, strawmanning, etc. and isn't actually answering any of my questions about him. he thinks he can just brush my suspicion on him off by doing nothing and no one will call him on it (which is p much what you're doing). his engagement of me is full of loaded questions that make assumptions that I know the flavor, despite the fact I'VE ALREADY SAID I DON'T. p much my last paragraph and tl;dr explains everythingPlum wrote:Pie, I'm not seeing anything Bro is saying that you don't like as a big deal. Likewise vice versa.
Occam's razor. I'm not going to assume he'd purposely destroy a perfectly good mislynch outlet in some sort of next-level plot because he played well as scum in game X. If that's the way to win the game, all scum should just claim scum in their first post and vote their partners from the get-go because next-level WIFOMsandwiches. You're confbiasing.In post 173, pieguyn wrote: why do you think he'd always do the most obvious strategy? this is the same guy who stole a weak neighborize and suicided on his partner just to give her a ridiculous amt of towncred. it's obvious BRO would NOT necessarily make the obvious scum play all the time and I could totally see him doing this for the towncred