"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
"If i must blantantly follow somone a player cannot do better than blindly following benmage" - tubby216
Not quite, it seems. Benmage's manages to whisper to someone with his last breath. They scurry off. But for...what purpose
?
For JUSTICE
. With his last breathe Rossart had told his assistant to IGNITE the Wildifire which had been planted, justice, his killer would be brought down - Rossart rested easy with that knowledge.
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Oh, damn. 4 remained. Surely this could still be salvaged. Was it the dirty woman from North of the wall? The sellsword who...sold his sword. The crippled child who looked sort of like a tree. The Giant awesome impressive looking, well written, amazingly cool, murdering, pillaging, godhandequpped, VICTARION.
No one knew.
Well, until Victarion stepped forward menacingly. He grunted, pointing his axe at Bronn.
A duel! Oh, wait, no Bronn just stabbed MAGUA through the heart.
Spoiler:
3 left. Bronn turned towards Bran menacingly. Victarion looked on, in confusion. It looked to be two versus one. Cephrir was all alone!
"That's what they call Warging", Bran said, speaking slowly.
Vitarion grunted. "Let him be free, I can kill him anyway" he said, turning to face the sellsword.
Bran rolled his eyes. "If you insist, got knows I've seen my team-mates do enough stupid things this game to last me a life time, let's hope he's not vengeful"
What followed was the most epic duel in history. Suffice to say Victarion being amazing eventually prevailed and Bronn had an axe planted in his skull. RIP.
Um. Okay. If you keep pretending you can't walk, it's going to look kind of offensive to people who actually can't? We get it, you're Bran. Your plush wolf (which, by the way, looks nothing like Summer) gives that away. But you can't
actually
warg me and make you carry you, when you're feeling lazy. Come on.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when your factions makes up more than 50% of the votes, and nothing can prevent this from changing.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, PeaceBringer
.
You have chosen to be
Samwell Tarly
. You are aligned with
Chaos
.
Hello, Peacebringer! You don't need to be scared, there's nothing here that's going to *actually* kill you. Yes, I get it. You're Sam. But wearing a t-shirt that says "check out my fat pink mast", was kind of unnecessary. As is nervously gigglign everytime someone says hi! (And please stop mumbling "I must remember my vows" everytime a semi attractive person walks by, okay?)
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when your factions makes up more than 50% of the votes, and nothing can prevent this from changing.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Alfred Borden
.
You have chosen to be
Balerion "The Black Dread"
. You are aligned with
Chaos
.
Nice dragon costume. Empire, how does it feel to literally be a dragon's ass? Oh, you guys aren't talking. How very in character. (You do realise you look nothing like Balerion was described, right? And no, Empire, you're not "that dragon from the hobbit. 'Marble feel free to slap some sense into him. And, uh, get a mint or something. There was no need to go for super realistic "Dragon Breath". Ew.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when your factions makes up more than 50% of the votes, and nothing can prevent this from changing.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, quadz08
You have chosen to be
"The Damphair", Aeron Greyjoy
. You are aligned with
Chaos
.
Quadz. Please stop. Bringing around a bucket of water and trying to dunk people's heads in it will get you kicked out if you keep it up. Seriously, it's kind of weird -- you're not going to be able to "dunk" people in that. It's probably breaking at least 10 health and safety laws. Also, it's not even seawater. How does that work?
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when your factions makes up more than 50% of the votes, and nothing can prevent this from changing.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Zdenek
.
You have chosen to be
Victarion Greyjoy
. You are aligned with
Chaos
.
You are literally the worst Victarion ever. Okay, so the shop didn't have a convincing battle axe. That doesn't mean you're supposed to bring a sword and tell us to "pretend"? Just...dress up as someone else. Oh, and for fuck sake your "Godhand" is...cardboard. And you didn't even colour it in. Well, on the plus side you tend to shout VICTARION at everyone you meet and tell them to come kill you if they can. Which is pretty funny. Just uh, stop doing it outside of convention. Someone might take you seriously.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when your factions makes up more than 50% of the votes, and nothing can prevent this from changing.
TRAITOR:
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Messiah Complex
.
You have chosen to be
"The Kingslayer", Jaime Lannister
. You are a Traitor aligned with
Chaos
.
Stop it! How many times do I have to tell you. No pushing little children to the ground. Can't you channel "I lost my hand, aww" Jaime a bit more? I don't know, just keep reciting a list of the people Cersei was fucking to stay in character. No, don't look at me like that. It was pretty creative for one of you guys to literally dress up as a golden hand. It suits you very well. I'm impressed.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when your faction makes up more than 50% of the votes, and nothing can prevent this from changing.
Spoiler: Town Roles 1/2
TOWN!!!
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Shadoweh
You have chosen to be
Melisandre of Asshai
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Shadoweh that glamour ruby around your neck really suits you. It really brings out your eyes .I'm...uh, just, well concerned? Someone told me you had leeches with you, and like...you're not allowed to go around leeching dudes okay? It's just not allowed. Also if you keep muttering under your breath about how everyone must be cleansed with fire, then people ARE going to mistake you for a pyromaniac and arrest you.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Garruk Relentless
You have chosen to be
Tyrion Lannister
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Okay. I know you're enjoying yourself Nat and SSk - but we're in a public place. You'll have to put the wine away. Oh, also. Stop asking random women where do whores go. Most of them think you're calling them a whore! You can't keep acting shocked when they slap you. If you really want to know where whores go, check out the red light district for fuck sake. Oh, and stop trying to get out of tipping by telling the bar staff a Lannister always pays his debts. They don't accept it as a form of currency, here.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, SafetyDance
You have chosen to be
Meera Reed
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Can you stop looking at everyone suspicious? I feel that we're probably safe enough in Starbucks, and you're freaking people out with the glares you're giving them. And it had nothing to do with you carrying a net (which by the way, is definitely from a basketball hoop and isn't convincingly scary/effective) and using your other hand as a "trident".
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Andrius
.
You have chosen to be
Grey Wind
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Um. You know you're not an actual wolf, right? And, seriously what a shitty costume. I can understand why the guy thought you were trying to be Twilight Sparkle. Okay, I mean sure, it's hard to look like an actual direwolf. But...
yeah
. Anyway, sit back and have a drink and enjoy the convention. And, please, stop growling at people. And wolf whistling at "prospective mates". Yes, I am aware it's a clever pun. And it only "almost" makes it okay.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Tierce
.
You have chosen to be
Olenna Redwyne
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Okay. One, drop the cane. Or
at least
stop hitting people over the head with it. Oh, and if you call the event security "Left" or "Right" one more time, I think they might just kick you out - you really can't talk to people like that and expect them to help you, you're not actually an old woman. Also, if you could stop telling people I remind you of your oaf of a son. I mean, really?
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Tammy
.
You have chosen to be
Rohanne Webber
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Well. Uh, guess you didn't need to dress up a lot? Red hair? Check. Already a girl? Check? Some freckles? (I don't remember!) Check. Great. What a great person to pick. What an inspired choice. Was it "Hey, I won't have to do anything but wear a dress", to this. And you're the Red Widow, not spiderman so you don't even get to say "With great power, comes great responsibility".
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Nautilius
.
You have chosen to be
Bronn
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Nice...costume. A sword from a dollar shop and "walking like a boss", does ...actually I guess it's pretty close to Bronn. Just uh, stop threatening those who are wearing white cloaks. It's warm outside, white is good in this weather. They're not all "Scared cowards from the Kingsguard" as you so eloquently told some of them. And please don't ask anyone for trial by combat. We look weird enough with out a "mock" trial by combat happening. Shoo. Just...go have some wine, or something.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Goat on a Raft
You have chosen to be
Tywin Lannister
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Woah. Stop, that. CDB - you're not allowed to kick...short people, and say they're a disgrace to your family name. Also, it'd be really helpful if AV stopped trying to convince the waitress to "Break guest right" and murder everyone who's not you two when we go out for dinner. I mean, I'm sure your "gold" (come on, it was just that chocolate money with the golden foil) made it tempting but I really think she thought we were all very weird by the end of it and I don't want to be arrested - you're not an ACTUAL Hand of the
Queen
King.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Thor665
.
You have chosen to be
"The Hound" Sandor Clegane
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
God damn it, Thor. Put down your sword. Also if you're going to be Sandor telling people you'll shove your sword "up their smurfing smurf", really does kind of break character. I mean, you should have just went for a guy who doesn't swear like a smurfing....mercenary. Although I have to say, you did go to a lot of effort on your makeup, your burned face looks legit. Just, uh, stop telling people the story of how you got burned -- it's creepy and I think some people think your burns are real!
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, PrideandJoy
.
You have chosen to be
Syrio Forel
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Just so. You are the first sword. But. How do I put this? This isn't Bravoos. You can't start smacking little girls across the hands with a wooden stick, and expect to get away with it. You'll get arrested! And no, you won't escape and turn into Jaqen H'ghar. That's a stupid fan theory. Seriously.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Spoiler: Town roles 2/2
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Amrun
.
You have chosen to be
Sansa Stark
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Right. You totally had to pick Sansa, didn't you? Now look it, we're getting lots of dirty looks and people throwing stuff at us. Didn't you expect everyone to hate us? Haven't you READ anything by the fandom? Don't you know Sansa is in fact the Great Other and the root of all evil. Jesus. .___. Now, if anyone asks just say you took a wrong turn and we're actually going to a period drama party. Or something.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, kanyeknowsbest
.
You have chosen to be
The Three Eyed Crow
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
kanye you look dope as hell dressed up as a crow. Where did you get the costume, mate? I'd suggest you stop trying to find little kids who look like Bran, though. Some of their mothers have already complained about you telling children in wheelchairs they'll never walk, but you can help them fly. It's kinda dickish. Anyway, glad you're here, plz enjoy.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Syryana
.
You have chosen to be
Jaqen H'ghar
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
A Syryana has dressed up well. Could a Syryana do a Faraday a favour though? And stop using the phrase "A Syryana" at the start of
every fucking sentence
. It was funny, like, the first four times, at most. After that it's just gotten kind of weird. Especially when we're trying to discuss our plans for dinner.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, ooba
.
You have chosen to be
Lyanna Stark
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
ooba, your costume looks really good. One thing, though. I don't think Lyanna ever wore a t-shirt saying "Is that a rebellion you're planning, or are you just happy to see me". It's kind of tacky. I mean, at least you've not let the whole Queen of Love and Beauty thing go to your head. And why do you keep asking me to Promise you something, without any further elaboration. Promise you what? What is it?
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, macmollie
.
You have chosen to be
Arya Stark
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
I know you guys are trying to roleplay Arya. But, you can't go around "stabbing people" with your toy swords. That's sharp plastic, so try
not
to stab them with the pointy end. And stop muttering a list of the people you've met under your breath. It's....unsettling.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, StupendousMan
.
You have chosen to be
Ser Barristan Selmy
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
Man, you're costume looks great. Maybe if you're going to go for realism we can have you fail in your duties and let a king or queen die? Uh, guess that struck a nerve, put your sword down, Whitebeard.
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, elleheathen
.
You have chosen to be
Ygritte
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
You know nothing, elleheathen! Ha. How does it feel to have that said to you? Bet you didn't realise how annoying it was. Yeah, okay. I get it, you're Ygritte. But every time someone says something you
can't
just tell them "you know nothing". It's actually rude. You're not an ACTUAL wilding like Ygritte, and I'm fairly sure she didn't say it every time someone spoke either!
You have the following abilities:
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Welcome to A uPick of
Ice
and
Fire
, Benmage
.
You have chosen to be
Rossart
. You are aligned with
The Realm
.
So, you didn't last as Hand of the King very long. That's pretty typical of you Benmage. Getting a position of power, then not doing as well as you should. Now, I'm glad to see you decided to be lazy and not dress up that much. But I guess, Rossart wasn't particular remarkable anyway. Was that why you picked him? /zing.
You have the following abilities:
Triggered
-
Let the whole city burn!
- If you're going down, then the whole town goes down with you. Should you ever be lynched, the person who places the hammer vote on you will also die, unless that player is Jaime Lannister. You have 24 hours once the thread is locked to decide if you wish to activate your ability.
Active
-
Left over wildfire
-You are paranoid. Three nights during the game you may PM me the name of a player. Your assistants will rig it so Wildfire will consume them should you die that night. If you are not killed then your assistants will remove the Wildfire the next morning. You may not target the same player more than once, with this ability.
Win Condition:
You win when all threats to
The Realm
have been eliminated and at least one Realm Aligned player remains alive.
Mod thoughts: No idea why people assumed multi scum, 24 player single scum game isn't completely ridiculous (even if I said it was before?) + I do like mafia vs town more, in general, a lot will just depend on my theme for what I choose to go for.
So let's look at the setup/mod thoughts in a few areas:
Setup: Okay, first of all I feel like the game was maybe slightly scum sided - but it's hard to tell given how things played out. It's true there's a lot of "numbers" in scum but a) the traitor was unrecruitable and b) there were a lot of blocking roles/roles that could stop scum killing who they wanted on the town side. (Tammy, thor, tierce, agar, katsuki was a bodyguard) + titus if she ever claimed had to use the ability to cost scum their NK. In hindsight another vig type role - or making shadoweh two shot was a much better idea. But I made shadoweh's role pre randomising, so if I'd made it two shot I think it's "obviously town", which maybe isn't actually a big deal in such a large game.
How things turned out: Quicklynching before your claimed roleblocker can offer a result, then two fake guilities in a row? Town were in a really strong position with kanye flying under the radar and about to investigate scum when everything just imploded. Seriously, going into Day 5 I fully expected town to win - despite ignoring the roleblock on Titus. Alfred had been blocked, and he looked scum to most people anyway, but it's like from there town just did their best to sabotage their own chances.
Generaly thoughts on play, I think Cephrir played pretty well on the scum side - and Titus managed to look really town to a bunch of people, too. Messiah also played the traitor role fairly well, I thought. On the town side it's slightly harder. Shadoweh had decent enough reads - she probably could have pushed them a bit harder, kanye was playing pretty welll...then he got fake guiltied. ooba and Benmage's fake claims though pretty much sealed town's faith - not only is it just straight up bad play, if you're wrong it costs town so much morale it's probably going to end up in a town loss.
Things I'd change, maybe go down to 20 players - that'd make this a little more playable. I like *weird* upicks, so I'm not going to say I'd go for a different type of game, but designing a game that fast in 10 days is extremely difficult, so less players would definitely make it easier. I thought it went out fairly well, I was pretty prompt with deadlines, votecounts and all that except for a brief period on Day 2 I think where I was busy/rl stuff.
I hope you all enjoyed the game - or at least certain aspects of it. Not all of the roles were as "powerful" as you may have wanted, but it's a mafia game first and foremost. A fair amount of effort went into them, even if not all of them were as awesome as I liked. Also it's hard to come up with roles for certain people that's not just "vig" (Arya in particular was difficult, as was Sansa and I think Jaime - who's power was probably a little underpowered/should have actually been 2-3 shot, sorry about that Messiah Complex!)
"You tell him this, m'lord. You tell him he's bound on marching the wrong way. It's north he should be taking his swords. North, not south. You hear me?"
- Osha
Thanks to all my replacements in particular! It was a long game for most of you to replace in. Very glad Magua didn't read before replacing in, might have had to look elsewhere!
Uh, I am not gonna retypoe out the roles <_< Sorry. I'll explain if anything is unclear though!
Some of the dead qt were spoiled when posting later on, no one really pinned down the whole scum team - although AGar blocked scum every night except 1, I think? (He blocked titus killing, blocked alfred, blocked cephrir one night) - pity he was never allowed to out his result.
Oh, I can say this now since he was no longer around - Peacebringer replacing out because he wasn't "feeling the site" or whatever pissed me off, since it was pretty clear he was just replacing out of scum games across the site.
In post 6517, Titus wrote:Such a pity. We had the role that outed what dead guys did too. Turns out, we didn't need it.
Eh, the cephrir role was super useless, basically.
And yeah, the not moving your vote thing was figured to be basically not gonna happen until late game, you succeeded a few times - but the times you did it never actually mattered.
Nacho helped much more in the end than Benmage which was a shock until Nacho started figuring me out as scum. We almost shot Nacho because I was paranoid Nacho was faking his belief that I was town. Benmage had the fake claim, but Benmage was saved by his meta. If we left him alive without the fake claim, Benmage's meta might have damned him.
Nacho on the other hand basically did most of the pushing on the wagons we wanted. So my big question to you Nacho, were you faking believing I was town, or did my hesitation make you believe I was town?
I had thought Nacho was our traitor and lynching Messiah was removing the town leader. Messiah didn't know us either, which basically really helped in the endgame I think.
In post 6516, Faraday wrote:Oh, I can say this now since he was no longer around - Peacebringer replacing out because he wasn't "feeling the site" or whatever pissed me off, since it was pretty clear he was just replacing out of scum games across the site.
This shit is why we need a public blacklist or something. People need to know about this behaviour.
So first things first, is that I really never want to play in a game with Benmage again. I think he's town, but even if he's scum just taking abuse of his town proclivity to do stupid shit, the point remains the same -- he'll happily do stupid shit that'll ruin a game and then completely abdicate responsibility for it and do it again.
It's like a running thing with Faraday's games, but Benmage has a goddamn history of doing this; it's not a one-shot deal like it was with Ludi. Nah.
I don't need that shit.
I had a big ol' response typed up when I saw there was a quickhammer on Alfred a few hours after the Day opened in lylo, and I was all set up to lambast people about the stupidity of instant voting in lylo.
Then Alfred flipped scum and in my QT I'm all, "Welp, now I get to be the mislynch that ends the game." So the game being ended before that happens is actually preferable.
Honestly equally surprised with Nautilus being town and Titus being scum. I don't think I ever would've switched positions on either of those. So better to be short and sweet and wrong than long and drawn out and wrong.